Zimmerman found NOT GUILTY

[jackspratt]

Did you notice how the family rescued by Zimmerman following a auto accident this week were threatened?

Were they?

And by who?

Any credible links?

[bumper]

I reckon the jurors will similarly become targets for merely doing their civic duty.

That I don't doubt one bit, only takes one nut bucket. America has lots to spare

[Jing Jing]

Here is an article about the family helped by Zimmerman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -mobs.html


Trayvon was drinking a street drug called lean. (Arizona Watermelon + Skittles + Robitussin DM)

“While some people can consume DXM regularly without psychological
consequences, others suffer from severe depression and psychotic breaks, even
leading to a few cases of suicide attempts…”

[RLTrader]

This is the best discussion I have seen on a related topic.

"Are we All Racists" its about 20 mins video


Trayvon Martin verdict ignites debate over our subconscious prejudices.

http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201307230046-0022926

[jackspratt]

Here is an article about the family helped by Zimmerman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -mobs.html

As the Daily Mail has a long and proven record of just making stuff up, I wouldn't take any notice of anything they say.

[LoveDaBlues]

If I were a juror, I'd be watching and listening carefully.

Did you notice how the family rescued by Zimmerman following a auto accident this week were threatened? They've declined any sort of media exposure for fear of being targeted.

I reckon the jurors will similarly become targets for merely doing their civic duty.

Obama's ghetto America. Get used to it.

No, I haven't noticed this. I have no knowledge of anyone threatening this family. Could you supply a link where this family said they were threatened? Thanks.

[LoveDaBlues]

Here is an article about the family helped by Zimmerman
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -mobs.html


Trayvon was drinking a street drug called lean. (Arizona Watermelon + Skittles + Robitussin DM)

“While some people can consume DXM regularly without psychological
consequences, others suffer from severe depression and psychotic breaks, even
leading to a few cases of suicide attempts…”

The same can be said of alcohol. No mention of this in his system in the autopsy report.

[LoveDaBlues]

If I were a juror, I'd be watching and listening carefully.

Did you notice how the family rescued by Zimmerman following a auto accident this week were threatened? They've declined any sort of media exposure for fear of being targeted.

I reckon the jurors will similarly become targets for merely doing their civic duty.

Obama's ghetto America. Get used to it.

Yea, there weren't any ghettos before Obama was elected.

[Asiaphile]

Did you notice how the family rescued by Zimmerman following a auto accident this week were threatened? They've declined any sort of media exposure for fear of being targeted.

Why are you always trying to twist the facts?
This is what Zimmerman's attorney Mark O'Mara said about the family's decision not to go on with the press conference that was to be held at his office:
'...they changed their minds, deciding they didn't want to be in the spotlight. After discussing the situation with family and friends, O'Mara said they realized that being connected to Zimmerman right now could be toxic.
Not a word about any threats, which, we know, would be a Godsent to you.
(http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/25/co ... zimmerman/)
Btw, please note that I have expressly quoted from a Zimmerman-friendly news source, Foxnews, the Mother of All Spin.

[jai yen yen]

I wonder what would have happened if GM was a black man or if he had killed TM with a strike to the throat rather than a gun? GM was obviously attacked by the conditions of his injuries while TM I don't believe had any injuries indicating he was attacked other than the gunshot wound. Following someone is not assault where I live, you could be charged with harassment but that does not justify attacking the person following you. If GM had wanted to kill TM why did he not shoot him from a distance rather than wait until the attack started? I know, a lot of questions but they are valid ones and need to be considered before deciding who was at fault. Any life wasted is a terrible thing, life being the most precious thing we have.

[redwolf]

Obama's ghetto America. Get used to it.

As a Chicago kid, -I can assure you it was GHETTO long before Obama came around.

[bumper]

Well my time was pre Obama that is for sure, even pre Bush either one of them.

That fact is we all have prejudices, mine just don't happen to be based on race. I really don't care to much for people who break the law and harm others in any fashion. What they do themselves, I could care less.

[KHONDAHM]

That fact is we all have prejudices.

Well said. What matters is what we do with those prejudices and what we let them do to us.

Those who cannot acknowledge and accept that simple fact about themselves and about others deny themselves the opportunity to move beyond it. It can be a constant struggle for many of us whose life-goggles were warped by influences in our backgrounds. A single person. A single event. A single observation. Or many.

Lawd knows I have enough baggage to fill a big boat. My parents - I am sure - have enough to fill an oil tanker. I jumped off my boat, my parents jumped off their oil tankers. My siblings' children and my own have always just been swimming around because the water is just fine...

Still, I can imagine that it is basic human nature to be prejudiced about something. If we were all multi-racial, there would be prejudice based on eye color, hair texture, height, skin tone (hello, Thais!), or something...

Anyway, what does any of this have to do with the topic at hand? I have no friggin' clue. By now everyone is set in their respective positions about the verdict and the circumstances. Nobody is going to change anyone's position be it based on facts, jaded perception, or Faux News' alternate reality.

I'm done. Carry on!

[WBU ALUM]

I wonder what would have happened if GM was a black man or if he had killed TM with a strike to the throat rather than a gun? GM was obviously attacked by the conditions of his injuries while TM I don't believe had any injuries indicating he was attacked other than the gunshot wound. Following someone is not assault where I live, you could be charged with harassment but that does not justify attacking the person following you. If GM had wanted to kill TM why did he not shoot him from a distance rather than wait until the attack started? I know, a lot of questions but they are valid ones and need to be considered before deciding who was at fault. Any life wasted is a terrible thing, life being the most precious thing we have.

Nothing would have happened had GZ been black. Maybe an arrest. Maybe not. With or without a gun. Look at Chicago, New Orleans, Los Angeles, Miami. See any outrage about black on black murders anywhere in America? I defy anyone to show any black on black case that rises to this level of outrage. There are none. There is not even COMBINED outrage over the thousands of them.

It's not against the law to follow and observe anywhere. There was no sign of a "threat" from GZ. Had there been, I'm sure the Child Angel would have informed his confidant, Ms. Jeantel, in their phone conversation. There wasn't even good "following" going on by GZ. He lost him a couple of times and even lost him at the end -- until the Child Angel confronted him while he was on his way back to his truck.

I've said all along ... why call 911 at all? Why try to follow so long if the motive is just to kill a black kid on a cold rainy dark night. Just shoot him and go home.

I still can't get past the fact that the Child Angel only got 30 meters in 4 minutes after he left the store. He only had to travel 100 meters to get to his destination. Easy to do on a cold rainy night if you want to get there. If I think someone is following me, I get where I'm going.

More interesting information:

http://www.dlas.org/questions-zimmerman-verdict/

[bumper]

That fact is we all have prejudices.

Well said. What matters is what we do with those prejudices and what we let them do to us.

Those who cannot acknowledge and accept that simple fact about themselves and about others deny themselves the opportunity to move beyond it. It can be a constant struggle for many of us whose life-goggles were warped by influences in our backgrounds. A single person. A single event. A single observation. Or many.

Lawd knows I have enough baggage to fill a big boat. My parents - I am sure - have enough to fill an oil tanker. I jumped off my boat, my parents jumped off their oil tankers. My siblings' children and my own have always just been swimming around because the water is just fine...

Still, I can imagine that it is basic human nature to be prejudiced about something. If we were all multi-racial, there would be prejudice based on eye color, hair texture, height, skin tone (hello, Thais!), or something...

Anyway, what does any of this have to do with the topic at hand? I have no friggin' clue. By now everyone is set in their respective positions about the verdict and the circumstances. Nobody is going to change anyone's position be it based on facts, jaded perception, or Faux News' alternate reality.

I'm done. Carry on!

Really it shouldn't have to anything with this. But, the media jumped on it and that became the slant.

I hope I have emptied my boat, Thai's are getting to me a bit, as do many expats that I have ran across in eleven years here. But, I go back to Martin Luther individual, judge a man by his character. I think I'm there. I have no need to talk about people I respect, based on their ethnic origin. That has no need for that, what really matters is how I conduct my life.

What really happened was things went really wrong very fast, one guy is dead and one guy has to live with his actions for the rest of his life. I know that feeling first hand I still have ghost in my past ( sorry one shooting and the guy lived ) Those ghosts are from when I went to far made mistakes that effected others. It's like a looped tape and it sucks. Stupid things where I abused my authority. I'm far from perfect.

But the only thing that matters is the character of the man.

[Quanteen]

... the media jumped on it and that became the slant.

Yes, quite.

I go back to Martin Luther individual, judge a man by his character.

Ironic isn't it? That's so far from what this case has become. It's nothing about character and all about color. The case is only in the headlines for one reason and one reason only. A group of American racists thought they could milk it for some positive political mileage. But their twisting, fabricating, and agenda-driven media led them down a dead end. Unfortunately for them they had committed -- so now have to play along.

Their helpless little angel turned out to be a turd. The evil white assassin turned out to be a fairly stand-up Hispanic. No grand jury indictment, no evidence that race played any factor. A show trial which did little more than expose more racism among the victim and witnesses, yielding a quick, unanimous verdict. It all went pear-shaped when the facts came to light, but the race-baiting shysters (including the president) had already stuck their foots in their mouth and feel compelled to follow through. How many times have we seen this?

I can't help but believe all the outraged protesters are feeling a little silly. They'd been sold a pig in a poke by their community agitators and are now reduced to going through the motions again to restore some semblance of dignity and avoid complete humiliation.

They are too late. They've been exposed, again.

[jackspratt]

They've been exposed, again.

Ah! How apropos.

Tex, you have clearly stated the (Gerstle) family "rescued" by Zimmerman was threatened.

No doubt you have very solid grounds for making this statement, but thusfar, despite several requests from forum members to do so, you have declined to reveal that evidence. There must be a good reason for you to do so, but please put our minds at rest.

Hopefully the evidence is not a bridge too far.

[Jello]

Maybe he misread the article-

"By Paul Thompson
Published: 12:09 EST, 23 July 2013 | Updated: 12:37 EST, 23 July 2013

The family rescued by George Zimmerman after a rollover crash in Florida are terrified they will become targets for hate mobs who have made death threats to the neighborhood vigilante."

" George Zimmerman is pretty toxic right now," said a friend. "Mark has two young children and has got to live his life 'round here. Why would he want to mark himself out? Whatever he says could be taken out of context. If he praises Zimmerman, then people will say he is making him into a hero. It is easier if he says nothing."
http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1086571

I don't blame them for not wanting to get their family involved in the middle of this. He obviously feels threatened by the media attention.

"He screamed at reporters from his garage saying: 'Go away. I've got nothing to say.'
The family have lived in the single story, tan stucco home for the past 10 years.
Gerstle drove straight into his garage after speeding down the road past several TV trucks and film crews waiting to interview him.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z2aGqF1WsL

[WBU ALUM]

There were at least two attempts by the media to alter audio and photographic information about the case. NBC altered the audio 911 call to make Zimmerman appear to focus on race during his call. ABC doctored the photograph of the back of Zimmerman's head to make it appear as if the blood wasn't there.

Now ABC has edited the video interview of one of the jurors to change the context of her statement. I thought it odd the first time I viewed it because she appeared to be saying two different things that were opposites.

ABC News Must Release Full, Unedited Interview with Zimmerman Juror
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism ... rman-juror

[jackspratt]

Instead of accepting Breitbart's spin, make up your own mind.

Here is the unedited video (go to about 2.00):



The ABC interview, as it went to air, is here (from about 0.45):

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/g ... y-19778568

I really can't see that the editing makes a jot of difference to the context. She seems to be contemplating the statement from the interviewer, then agrees with it, and further amplifies her agreement with a reference to god.