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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 7:16 pm

I did not check the credentials of all 140 000 attendees but they would not be at the conference if they were not well up the food chain in the IT world, unlike yourself they understood AI and were excited about its application in Commerce, Government and education.

What all 140,000 of them. No one questioned the real dangers of manipulative posts using AI, just imagine if the little young editor working for ABC had used AI to alter video evidence.



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Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 7:40 pm

Sure Alex, put your spin on it, without knowing one single thing about the conference. You have an opinion, I assume you were not at at the conference, yes?

There were 45,000 paying delegates who forked out around $1100 each, estimates now are with public attending, the actual number was estimated at 171,000 attendees.

You automatically challenge every post that does not agree with your attitude. Post some facts for a change and not your highly biased opinions. You won't do so, because you simply do not know the on the ground facts
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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 7:53 pm

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September 28, 2024, 7:40 pm
Sure Alex, put your spin on it, without knowing one single thing about the conference. You have an opinion, I assume you were not at at the conference, yes?

There were 45,000 paying delegates who forked out around $1100 each, estimates now are with public attending, the actual number was estimated at 171,000 attendees.

You automatically challenge every post that does not agree with your attitude. Post some facts for a change and not your highly biased opinions. You won't do so, because you simply do not know the on the ground facts
Highly biased?
Just questioned what conference facility is capable of holding 140,000 attendee's and that not one of them expressed concern at the not unknown art of manipulating video evidence. Something the Aussie media seem very adept at.

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Post by anefarious1 » September 28, 2024, 8:05 pm

oh and I forgot the QANON types. Conspiracy theorists often aren't low IQ, but tend to be super gullible and of course Trump worshipers. There is some crossover here with mentally ill folks. To the person who suggested the Dems are also cult-like, sorry that just does not hold water. Check how many votes Biden got yet pretty much nobody is actually a fan of the guy nor does he seek any adulation. A lot of his votes were cast to fire Trump, many from conservatives. You must not be following this Trump phenomenon very closely. This is Jim Jones level SH*T.

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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 8:11 pm

AlexO wrote:
September 28, 2024, 7:53 pm
Whistler wrote:
September 28, 2024, 7:40 pm
Sure Alex, put your spin on it, without knowing one single thing about the conference. You have an opinion, I assume you were not at at the conference, yes?

There were 45,000 paying delegates who forked out around $1100 each, estimates now are with public attending, the actual number was estimated at 171,000 attendees.

You automatically challenge every post that does not agree with your attitude. Post some facts for a change and not your highly biased opinions. You won't do so, because you simply do not know the on the ground facts
Highly biased?
Just questioned what conference facility is capable of holding 140,000 attendee's and that not one of them expressed concern at the not unknown art of manipulating video evidence. Something the Aussie media seem very adept at.
https://www.salesforceben.com/dreamforce/

Quite obviously there were several venues stretching from 3rd and 4th St, between Howard and Mission streets and spanning 5 days.

The big difference between your comments and mine. I was there, you were not. Every single session was attended by thousands of people and broadcast to other venues. How can you have an AI altered presentation when it is live on stage? That is preposterous.
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Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 8:28 pm

Quite obviously?
Not from your description of a conference attended by 170,000 people. Thousands paying hundreds of bucks to attend but then they let the public in for free, good business plan, in whose opinion.
So you cannot produce false imaging or sounds using AI? Sounds as if the "conference" was wasted on some folk.

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Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 8:46 pm

Sure Alex, deny, deny, deny. Tell.me if you are so clever, how do you alter a live event using AI. People are within a few metres of the stage. Simple answer you cannot. You are full of it
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Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 8:55 pm

Alex, Salesforce is a 34 billion dollar hitech leader, but you think they need to resort to AI to build their business by deceiving their customers? Are you insane?
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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 9:07 pm

AlexO wrote:
September 28, 2024, 8:28 pm
Quite obviously?
Not from your description of a conference attended by 170,000 people. Thousands paying hundreds of bucks to attend but then they let the public in for free, good business plan, in whose opinion.
So you cannot produce false imaging or sounds using AI? Sounds as if the "conference" was wasted on some folk.
Have you twigged that some sessions were for delegates only and some open to the public? Have you twigged that some venues like the APAC Lounge was a closed venue so food, drinks and cocktails were set up to network and build business relationships. Have you the slightes idea about how these international events are planned and managed?
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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 9:43 pm

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
September 28, 2024, 7:09 pm
by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 6:59 am

Where did I say I made a speech, where did I comment about having any listeners? Still making things up LYM and attributing post from another poster to me when I said no such thing.

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I was a bit circumspect when talking about Trump to the IT crowd in San Francisco last week, but was surprised at the number of Trumpists. I did manage to buy an 'I love Kamala' badge which I will give to a Trump loving mate here in Udon.
I don't expect he will wear it, but if spotted, please post on the forum.
Those are your words, not mine. Spin your way out of this one.
Lym, talking to people and making a speech, do you have the vaguest idea about the difference?
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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 9:47 pm

Whistler wrote:
September 28, 2024, 9:07 pm
AlexO wrote:
September 28, 2024, 8:28 pm
Quite obviously?
Not from your description of a conference attended by 170,000 people. Thousands paying hundreds of bucks to attend but then they let the public in for free, good business plan, in whose opinion.
So you cannot produce false imaging or sounds using AI? Sounds as if the "conference" was wasted on some folk.
Have you twigged that some sessions were for delegates only and some open to the public? Have you twigged that some venues like the APAC Lounge was a closed venue so food, drinks and cocktails were set up to network and build business relationships. Have you the slightes idea about how these international events are planned and managed?
Eh yes, my youngest daughter is forever travelling the world to similar events that she helps organise. Funny have never heard her saying that 100+ thousands of public were attendee's. Perhaps if you stopped at the 40 odd thousand paying customers your post would have been just a wee bit more believable.

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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 9:55 pm

Whistler wrote:
September 28, 2024, 8:46 pm
Sure Alex, deny, deny, deny. Tell.me if you are so clever, how do you alter a live event using AI. People are within a few metres of the stage. Simple answer you cannot. You are full of it
So everything on screen and the demonstrations of the capabilities of AI misinformation was never discussed during this massive gathering of Top of the Food Chain IT specialists. Must have been the same as the recent Liebour Party Conference, just tell everyone what they want to hear even if it is BS.
I suppose you had a center stage seat as well so you know for definite.

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Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 10:11 pm

All sessions were in front of a live audience. Answer the question, how can AI manipulate that?
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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 10:36 pm

Whistler wrote:
September 28, 2024, 10:11 pm
All sessions were in front of a live audience. Answer the question, how can AI manipulate that?
Was it all just a person talking. no slide/powerpoint type presentations. Or are you just a believer. :-"

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Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 10:42 pm

Grasping at straws now ain't you. PowerPoint is so yesterday, nobody worth their salt would do that. Do me a favour before you make an even biĝger fool of yourself look at the youtube vids covering the scores and scores of sessions
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Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 10:44 pm

Anyway you were part of an AI conference with 40 odd thousand paying customers. Big deal not 170,000 attendee's.

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Some on here starting to make Trump look like an intellectual genius.

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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by AlexO » September 28, 2024, 10:54 pm

Whistler wrote:
September 28, 2024, 8:55 pm
Alex, Salesforce is a 34 billion dollar hitech leader, but you think they need to resort to AI to build their business by deceiving their customers? Are you insane?
They sell themselves as the cloud based experts at improving your sales pitch to potential customers. Fairly short lived and doing a great job in selling themselves to the gullible as the answer to all your needs to become rich.

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Post by Whistler » September 28, 2024, 11:10 pm

55 salesforce does nothing asdociated with sales pitches, that iscerrant nonesence you have judt made up because all your other assertations have been shot down in flames. let's get back to your dumb claim that AI manipulated presentations, doesn't hold water does it Alex? Aa for numbers, I repeat.

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Re: Donald Trump Is Unfit To Lead

Post by Kenr6583 » September 28, 2024, 11:13 pm

Exactly WTF are you two (2) arguing about? What does this have to do with this thread?

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