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Post by tamada » November 13, 2024, 6:31 pm

Better start clutching them pearls.

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Post by rick » November 14, 2024, 1:27 pm

Israel's genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza continues. Most aid still stalled at the border. Biden yet again fails to criticise Israel for failing to meet his 'ultimatum' to increase aid. And with Trump as the next US president, members of Israel's government are now talking about annexing parts of the West bank.

Saudi Arabia has finally condemned the war in Gaza as genocide. Will it be just empty words or will they, eventually act?
Borrell has stated that if Israel will not stop the war all dialogue between EU and Israel will cease.

Does Israel realise that the only friend thy have left is the USA? (and possibly Starmer). The rest of the world has been sickened by the brutal, year long response to Hamas's invasion which has killed well over 40,000 Palestinians, mostly women and Children.

I think the possibility of a full on Middle-east war is not to be dismissed. Not yet, but maybe within 10 years. I also suspect that both Iran and Saudi Arabia will be nuclear armed states by then. They do not have to develop weapons themselves, I am sure the technology could easily be bought from North Korea or Pakistan if the price is right.

All i can say is, Israel's actions will have provoked it.

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Re: Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

Post by AlexO » November 14, 2024, 5:59 pm

rick wrote:
November 14, 2024, 1:27 pm
Israel's genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza continues. Most aid still stalled at the border. Biden yet again fails to criticise Israel for failing to meet his 'ultimatum' to increase aid. And with Trump as the next US president, members of Israel's government are now talking about annexing parts of the West bank.

Saudi Arabia has finally condemned the war in Gaza as genocide. Will it be just empty words or will they, eventually act?
Borrell has stated that if Israel will not stop the war all dialogue between EU and Israel will cease.

Does Israel realise that the only friend thy have left is the USA? (and possibly Starmer). The rest of the world has been sickened by the brutal, year long response to Hamas's invasion which has killed well over 40,000 Palestinians, mostly women and Children.

I think the possibility of a full on Middle-east war is not to be dismissed. Not yet, but maybe within 10 years. I also suspect that both Iran and Saudi Arabia will be nuclear armed states by then. They do not have to develop weapons themselves, I am sure the technology could easily be bought from North Korea or Pakistan if the price is right.

All i can say is, Israel's actions will have provoked it.
Absolutely amazing that some people actually still believe the Genocide lies. Some 40,000 odd unverified deaths (obviously no Hamas hero's as they are hiding behind the women and children) in over a year in a population of somewhere just short of 3 million is a complete failure by the IDF to wipe out the Palestinians.
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Post by tamada » November 14, 2024, 8:09 pm

With Huckabee the next US Ambassador to Israel, I think the writing may be on the wall for the two-state solution. He doesn't believe there's a Palestine or such a thing as a Palestinian.

Serves them right really, the two-state solution has been on the table for decades, only to be repeatedly rejected by Iran and their proxies. They will reap what they have sown.
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Re: Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

Post by Udon Map » November 15, 2024, 6:19 am

tamada wrote:
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He doesn't believe there's a Palestine or such a thing as a Palestinian.
And with good reason. The first "Palestinian" was Arafat in the 1960s. And besides, they keep saying that they were there first, but . . . .

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Re: Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

Post by AlexO » November 15, 2024, 11:22 am

Udon Map wrote:
November 15, 2024, 6:19 am
tamada wrote:
November 14, 2024, 8:09 pm
He doesn't believe there's a Palestine or such a thing as a Palestinian.
And with good reason. The first "Palestinian" was Arafat in the 1960s. And besides, they keep saying that they were there first, but . . . .


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Re: Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

Post by jackspratt » November 15, 2024, 8:47 pm

rick wrote:
November 14, 2024, 1:27 pm
Israel's genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza continues.
You are not the only one to believe this is the case.
Israel's tactics in Gaza show 'characteristics of genocide', UN special committee reports

Israel's warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, a special UN committee said on Thursday, as a Human Rights Watch (HRW) report said Israel's displacement of Gazans amounts to a "crime against humanity".

The UN's report cited Israeli use of starvation as a weapon of war and AI-assisted military targeting with little human intervention as evidence of "disregard of [Israel's] obligation to distinguish between civilians and combatants and take adequate safeguards to prevent civilian deaths".
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-15/ ... /104603534

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Re: Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

Post by jackspratt » November 15, 2024, 8:55 pm

tamada wrote:
November 14, 2024, 8:09 pm
With Huckabee the next US Ambassador to Israel, I think the writing may be on the wall for the two-state solution. He doesn't believe there's a Palestine or such a thing as a Palestinian.
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Re: Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

Post by Udon Map » November 15, 2024, 9:02 pm

jackspratt wrote:
November 15, 2024, 8:47 pm
rick wrote:
November 14, 2024, 1:27 pm
Israel's genocide and ethnic cleansing of Gaza continues.
You are not the only one to believe this is the case.
Israel's tactics in Gaza show 'characteristics of genocide', UN special committee reports

Israel's warfare in Gaza is consistent with the characteristics of genocide, a special UN committee said on Thursday, as a Human Rights Watch (HRW) report said Israel's displacement of Gazans amounts to a "crime against humanity".

The UN's report cited Israeli use of starvation as a weapon of war and AI-assisted military targeting with little human intervention as evidence of "disregard of [Israel's] obligation to distinguish between civilians and combatants and take adequate safeguards to prevent civilian deaths".
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-15/ ... /104603534
The U.N. focuses more of its attention on repeatedly condemning Israel than on all of the other human rights abusers and deniers combined. This includes countries that sanction human slavery, FGM, summary execution of LGBTQ+ individuals, and more. And where's the outrage in the U.N. about Hamas' using civilians as shields, Hamas' denying civilians access to its tunnels? Supposedly Hamas' continuing to hold Israeli hostages is a war crime, but where's the outrage in the U.N.? Nah, I care less and less about the U.N.'s opinion of what's going on the world.

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