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Post by bender » November 24, 2007, 9:08 am

can anyone advise if sites such as thai kisses are for real and do the woman listed actually exist. there seem to be a lot of women from kumphawati listed, would they work in there or in udon . also if these women are for real does anyone know how to contact them without paying up to the website. any help will be appreciated.



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Post by Philrjones » November 24, 2007, 9:16 am

Hi,
Yes I think most of the sites are real such as thai love links etc. What you have to watch out for is the girls! Some are for real, some not. Most have many many men writing to them and it's easy for them to have 2,3,4 or more blokes writing to them, meeting them (we all go at different times of the year), sending money etc. The only way to know is to met and greet and you'll get a feel for how honest she is, if she works bar etc. If they live in the country and their english is really good, they've probably had/have farang bf's. I (and many others) have been ripped off, lied to etc. In fact I don't think I've met a farang that hasn't. Still, didn't stop me trying. Nowadays I know what I'm looking for - with experience you get to pick up on all sorts of smal things. If there is buffalo to pay for, farm, papa or mama ill etc, forget it. If you continually can't get them on their mobile because it's switched off - forget it as Thai girls have the thing welded to their ear at all times.

Hopefully you'll find a good one - good luck!
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Post by lynxlynx » November 24, 2007, 9:45 am

Bender, spare yourself a lot of wasted time and energy. I am afraid you cannot avoid paying the membership fee (if you want to contact these girls). Most of the profiles posted on these websites are genuine, but mind you - many of these girls are there for reasons other than stated (misdemeanor comes to my mind).

Just get yourself a plane ticket and do some searching right in the area of your interest. Unless you are visibly unbearable to look at, I am sure you will come across many nice girls who will not put up too much resistance in your efforts to get acquainted with them.

PS: It seems to me that at least half of the Udon female population is listed on these dating websites. :razz:

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Post by UdonExpat » November 24, 2007, 11:10 am

There are services that help the women create and post a profile, as well as translate the emails. So just because you are writing back and forth does not mean that the woman can understand English, or whatever language is being used.

As mentioned above, if there are requests for money for ANY reason be cautious.

Don't waste a lot of time writing. Line up a number of women you would like to meet and then come here and do so.

I had good luck with that method. I met a number of Thai women online and then came to Thailand and met them. Only 2 were worth a second look. One of them I eventually married and have few regrets. Would certainly marry her again.

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Post by bender » November 24, 2007, 11:13 am

thanks fellas, would you safer looking at the likes of a school teacher, policewoman etc. or would they know all the tricks.

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Post by lynxlynx » November 24, 2007, 11:26 am

bender wrote:thanks fellas, would you safer looking at the likes of a school teacher, policewoman etc. or would they know all the tricks.
Stay away as far as you can from anything that has the word "police" on it in Thailand. This is by far the biggest and the most powerful mafia in the country. If you get in trouble with a Thai woman in Thailand, you may live through that experience. But the outcome of messing with a Thai policewoman (or breaking her heart - even though unintentionally) is too scary even to think of. They all know the tricks!!!

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Post by Pakawala » November 24, 2007, 11:34 am

Bender, I've found that they ALL know the tricks - the thing to look for is which of them have the morals not to use the tricks. I've found nurses and school teachers to be a good starting point (I married a nurse and couldn't be happier). In these two categories you know they have received some higher education, have been taught English and are able to support themselves. Also, you'll get to meet their friends who will also most likely be nurses or school teachers and probably single as well. The doors open rapidly once you've made contact. :D

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Post by kevh » November 24, 2007, 11:40 am

Very sound advice pakawala

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Post by UdonExpat » November 24, 2007, 11:46 am

Both of the women I considered worth a second look were educated. One was a school administrator. The other had little formal schooling but had taken it upon herself to learn English. She knew most of the English teachers in town, and as I worked as an English teacher I knew she wasn't pretending; they remembered her from classes with them over the years.

I wouldn't be cautious of a policewoman. There could be many advantages to have such a relationship. Preferential treatment at government and other offices is always an advantage in Thailand. It can save waits and the normal paperwork requirements. I always considered having friends in the 'know' as being valuable, not a detriment.

I hear more farang crying about their broken hearts and about how they've been done wrong than I've ever heard from Thai women who talk with my wife about their farang loves and losses.

All women everywhere know all the tricks, or are actively learning them. Provide a learning experience for them.

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Post by lynxlynx » November 24, 2007, 11:52 am

UdonExpat wrote:I wouldn't be cautious of a policewoman. There could be many advantages to have such a relationship. Preferential treatment at government and other offices is always an advantage in Thailand. It can save waits and the normal paperwork requirements. I always considered having friends in the 'know' as being valuable, not a detriment.
I would respectfully disagree. That's only valid as long as the relationship is going in the right direction. As soon as it doesn't, you'd better run! I'd happily give up the potential gains arising from this kind of relationship for the peace of mind and knowing I am not going to be a moving cop target when things get heated.

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Post by rickus » November 24, 2007, 12:18 pm

There are a group of women from Kumphawapi, using most of the singles sites, I have written to 2 of them and met them, they are out for what they can get, very quickly, if they think you are coming to meet them for a few weeks, when you arrive, you will be asked to dtay in most expensive hotel, buy gold jewellery, make the motor bike payment, fix the parents house, lots of reasons to extract money from you, I was asked for the above within 2 days of meeting one of these girls, have some fun, but be careful, you have to meet to see if they are genuine, and it can be a very expensive lesson finding out, and please don't ever send money to people you have never met, whatever their excuse for needing it.

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Post by BKKSTAN » November 24, 2007, 1:17 pm

IMO,you meet the women,set your boundaries,maintain them and let the chips fall as they may!It isn't like you are trapped in the jaws of death.You can say no and move on!

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Post by Irish Alan » November 24, 2007, 2:07 pm

bender wrote:thanks fellas, would you safer looking at the likes of a school teacher, policewoman etc. or would they know all the tricks.
One of the biggest players I know in Udon is a policewoman. She unashamedly wanders around the complex or into a fahlang restaurant hand in hand with her latest mark. I pity the poor saps that fall for her.

I know a guy here on Thai Love Links and he is meeting someone every other day... One earlier this week wanted to go shopping for gold on day 1. I keep telling him to forget this online 5hit and give the real world a try.

Finding honesty online is like trying to find hen's teeth.

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Post by aznyron » November 24, 2007, 3:16 pm

I think this is the ideal post for my message
there are lots of horror stories you hear from falong men meeting thai ladies
and sadly most of them are true
keep this in mind never give them more than you can afford to lose because you will lose it
also if you can not wear it take it with you in a suit case you don't own it
if you are with a lady long enough to establish a relationship with and she want you to buy a house or a car and you decide to do it finance it for the long term this way if things go sour she get the payment book and you get lost
and on another note you can buy a condo in your name if you have the cash this way if things go sour she is the one who moves out not you
I also want to stress this point if momma & poppa are younger than you do not support them make them go to work it ok to help them and do not be fooled in buying them a house
it ok to help with small change but no big donations just remember these people live OK on 5000 baht a month which is about 150 USD on to day exchange rate
I met a lady on the internet it was wonderful for awhile but in the end she scammed me but that my fault because I allowed it to happen and we did spend 5 wonderful months together before I found out she was scamming some poor soul from the UK and I informed him and he dump her also
it is always best to come to Thailand and look for your self start out in shopping malls not bars
and if your young enough to learn the lang do so but never let on you understand thai
never never never never let them know you know what they are saying in there native tongue
that your ace in the hole like all relationship they must be built on trust but like Ronald Regan said trust but verify and if any one has any thing to ad please do best of luck in your search for true love

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Post by LoveDaBlues » November 24, 2007, 4:09 pm

TLL is an excellent place to find a sincere Thai lady. It's also a great place to find a scammer. If someone can't tell the difference he should probably just remain single.

Computers have been a part of the real world for a long time now. It's very hard for a lot of the Thai ladies out there to hang around at the mall, the bars, etc. but a lot of good Thai ladies can afford to check the internet from time to time. I met my wife on TLL. She is from a small village about 90 kilometers from downtown Udon Thani. As she was busy working in the local family business she didn't have the time (or money) to constantly make trips to town or get on the internet. From time to time she would ride her motorbike the 15 kilometers to the nearest internet cafe so we could chat online. Eventually I made it to Udon and we've been together ever since. That was in April of 2004 and we're expecting our first child on December 7.

Don't dismiss the online route to finding a Thai lady. I have many farang friends who are married (most for a considerable amount of time) after having met their wives thru TLL.

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Post by Maligator » November 24, 2007, 4:17 pm

1. Read all the above
2. Throw away your computer
3. Buy a plane ticket
4. Fly here
5. Read books on culture on long ass flight
6. Read books on language phrases on long ass flight
7. Look nice
8. Do not act like an idiot
9. Think of how you want some goof to be with your sister
10. Remember..Culture
11. Women are the same..everywhere
12. Think with the head on your shoulders
13. Take nothing for granted

Choc dii

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Post by beer monkey » November 24, 2007, 6:05 pm

Lawer,Doctor,Bar-girl,Graduate in this that and the other,Road Cleaner,Indian Chief,Tyre Fitter,Hotel worker,Coyote Girl,Poleet-women,Noodle seller,a KFC worker,Beer promo-girl,farmers daughter....should'nt make any differance really if you find a good one, get over to Thailand and have a search around, all the listed girls are around somewhere, have you been to thailand before ?
Can You Dig It Dug.?

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Post by Jai » November 24, 2007, 7:29 pm

Hi bender
Try dateinAsia.com/
This is site was started by Google and is free for the first 6 months to get it off the ground. There are a lot of Udon Girls in there.

Chok Dee


PS if you are doing a search the girls spell Udon a number of different ways, also refer to muang as living inside or outside the city

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Post by bunternut » November 27, 2007, 3:09 am

I would have thought that the internet is a good tool if you are in a place or situation where meeting people/girls is hard to impossable, and i have heard of people meeting and then marrying even after meeting in chat rooms etc, just like a high tech dating agency really, but this is thailand the hardest thing here if your single is staying unattached, i managed 2 years, which i thought was quite good, mainly by leaving town alot :lol:

in my exp time it takes to get a girl in a bar 5 secounds, in a shopping mall 5 minutes, thai night club about the same, and there are good and bad everywhere are there not, the best girls i have known have been bar girls the worst,,, bar girls, which sums it up i guess

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Post by hxjohn » November 27, 2007, 4:07 am

Maligator wrote:1. Read all the above
2. Throw away your computer
3. Buy a plane ticket
4. Fly here
5. Read books on culture on long ass flight
6. Read books on language phrases on long ass flight
7. Look nice
8. Do not act like an idiot
9. Think of how you want some goof to be with your sister
10. Remember..Culture
11. Women are the same..everywhere
12. Think with the head on your shoulders
13. Take nothing for granted

Choc dii
this is the best advive you will get and the only real way to increase your chances of meeting the real girl is face to face
ive met guys who turn up at udon airport and meet the girl only to find out she is not the one that as been writeing the e mails and useing msn
they have there own little groups that plot i mean help there friends plan of attack some of the girls meet them of the conveyor belt give them the rounds then wait for the next one
the best was i guy i.ll keep is name to myself but came over first time
stayed at the grand couldent understand why is girl wouldent go out a lot with him she always was sick our tired unless they went out of town
turned out she had been working in the bars over the road had a string of blokes on the go non the wiser
sure enoff wen he left she was back in buissnes

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