Why are Thais so GREEDY !!!!

Post by **The Badger** » November 30, 2007, 10:38 am

OK I've really got "The Hump" with Thailand and Thais.
My time here in "The Big Mango" is up and I'm off to me new posting in "The Lion City" in 2 weeks. Got kinda attached to "Sweety" and asked her to come ? with me. Gotta visa for her (not easy) and all set to go.
Just had phone call from her and tells me I "HAVE TO" pay her Pa B200.000 Sin Sot ???? before she can go ???
Ma dead. "Sweety 30yrs old, divorced one baby (lives with ex).
Really pissed me off . Why do Thais do this ????
Guess daughters are just money in the bank for the Familys.
This probably a "Deal Breaker" for me. Not about the dosh though it would go sum way at 'Orchard Towers"
Gave "Sweety a new Airblade for her birthday.Pa was hanging out for Pickup !!!!
Question: Why are they so Bloody greedy ????
The (Lone again) Badger

Post by **pompui** » November 30, 2007, 11:32 am

What is it with you Badger and the Thai women?
Give the Pa two buffalo and that is it or treat him to another tattoo,that should shut him up!
that tattoo in my avatar is sufficient for Pa

Post by **lynxlynx** » November 30, 2007, 11:39 am

The Badger wrote:OK I've really got "The Hump" with Thailand and Thais.
My time here in "The Big Mango" is up and I'm off to me new posting in "The Lion City" in 2 weeks. Got kinda attached to "Sweety" and asked her to come ? with me. Gotta visa for her (not easy) and all set to go.
Just had phone call from her and tells me I "HAVE TO" pay her Pa B200.000 Sin Sot ???? before she can go ???
Ma dead. "Sweety 30yrs old, divorced one baby (lives with ex).
Really pissed me off . Why do Thais do this ????
Guess daughters are just money in the bank for the Familys.
This probably a "Deal Breaker" for me. Not about the dosh though it would go sum way at 'Orchard Towers"
Gave "Sweety a new Airblade for her birthday.Pa was hanging out for Pickup !!!!
Question: Why are they so Bloody greedy ????
The (Lone again) Badger

Badger, that sounds bad. Given her divorced status (plus the baby), she should be making no demands in regard to the sin sot. She is almost "unmarriable" by Thai standards and NO WAY any Thai would pay a sin sot for her. The sin sot payment should be given to her parents at the wedding ceremony, so I don't understand why she is demanding it now, when she will be just visiting you. Dady wants a pickup? I'd order one - to run him over! Hmm, tell her "No way Jose". If she agrees to go with you anyway, then enjoy your time with her and then send her back home - forever! If she doesn't, then just forget about her and move on. There are plenty of others to try your luck with.

If you give in to her demands - you'll be sorry.

Post by **eastbaybob** » November 30, 2007, 12:47 pm

Why are Thais greedy? Why are foreigners stupid?

I'm sure this lady has seen enough of her friends, or maybe has heard stories of how much money foreigners give to Thai lady, so shes just in on the action. And she starts at 200k and you'll end up paying her 50k. You feel like you just saved 150K and she'll think you're a typical rich foreigner that gives money to Thai lady. We will never learn so they won't have to.

Post by **RALPHCUSENS** » November 30, 2007, 1:21 pm

Have to agree with lynxlynx on this one,;

Divorced + Baby = No sin sot, however, "Sweety" may feel obligated to her family,if you feel inclined, you could donate a little to placate the situation, however from where I'm looking, it would appear that you need to tread very carefully.

Not knowing the background of "Sweety",it is difficult to pass judgement. But my approach would probably be; Sorry sweety, I am not in agreement with paying a sin sot in this situation, if you want to come with me, come, its your decision, but I will not pay a sin sot.

She will , (and her family)then realise that you are not going to be have the p$ss
taken. She will then accept the situation or not, you will then be able to take stock of your position.

The best of luck!!

Post by **Irish Alan** » November 30, 2007, 1:39 pm

Even if a girl is not a gold digger sometimes you have to contend with a parent or sibling or other family member. The father is chancing his arm to see what he can squeeze from you before you depart. Teach her father the meaning of go f**k yourself! As has been said divorced+child = 0Baht. If your getting into the Christmas spirit give him a few thousand Baht as a consolation prize for having a hard neck*.

*Chancer. (I'll post some good ones in the jokes section.)

Post by **faranginUTH** » November 30, 2007, 2:08 pm

I would give her dad 200,000 no problem

Post by **jingjai** » November 30, 2007, 2:38 pm

Where is the "The Lion City"?
If it is as easy to meet girls in "The Lion City" as it is in Thailand, I'd say forget her.
If not as easy as in Thailand, take her along, if for no other reason than to have a warm body in bed with you.
Give Papa a few thousand, a case of Mekong, and some smokes.

Post by **38nholding** » November 30, 2007, 2:56 pm

It used to be years ago that Asian families wanted sons so when they got older they could work and take care of the family . Now its daughters so the farang husbands can take care of the families ( so I have been told ).

Post by **RALPHCUSENS** » November 30, 2007, 3:07 pm

faranginUTH wrote:I would give her dad 200,000 no problem

YOUR JOKING

Post by **BKKSTAN** » November 30, 2007, 3:25 pm

If you are looking for a long term relationship,take control NOW!!!She is not elgible for sinsod!She knows it and so does father!
Judge the family circumstances and make a decision about how you want to help or not,give something or not!
A little help,I repeat little,once in awhile based on your termws without any expectations is the way to go!Explain it to her,discuss without anger and let her make the choice to be with you or not!
If you let her have control,dictate the terms,you are a lost sucker and you will pay the price!
Think about it,just because you have spent some time with her,does that make her the only possible woman in Thailand for you,that you need to let her lead you around!There are lots of interested and some elgible ladies out there.Pull you head out of your ass and let the ''Big brain'' get some oxygen and time to think!
Good Luck!

Post by **faranginUTH** » November 30, 2007, 4:10 pm

RALPHCUSENS wrote:
faranginUTH wrote:I would give her dad 200,000 no problem

YOUR JOKING

200,000 Lao Kip

Post by **RALPHCUSENS** » November 30, 2007, 4:21 pm

=D> =D> =D>
Good one, I fell for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **beer monkey** » November 30, 2007, 4:37 pm

Give them an inch, and they want a mile. (or 1.6 kilometres in this case).
200000baht for taking his sweety off to singapore... for a holiday only i take it ?
pang..very pang.
but remember you/we are velly rich farang, money is no prom-pem

Post by **Prenders88** » November 30, 2007, 4:44 pm

The Singapore girls are even more mercenary, you'll need your own house, car, hair , teeth, and a few bob in the bank, before they will give you the time of day. Just stick to Orchard Towers for your fun on a pay as you go basis.

Post by **banpaeng** » November 30, 2007, 8:28 pm

Most likely another unwanted opinion but as Eastbaybob has said it is just expected as the one before have gone. However I to agree that maybe you do not need to do this.

As a suggestion (as advice really stinks

), say with a smiling face, I am not in the market for a slave and will not buy another person. I also do not have that type of money. I will be happy to loan Pops about 2 to 5 K baht (if he excepts it will be a permanent loan). She will most likely say you no love her but explain in your culture buying someone is not excepted and explain a couple of Thai customs you do observe. Then leave it to her. Most likely they will accept your loan offer and all will go fine. As Stan said, you need to set boundries.

Greedy, I suppose by our standards. By Thai standards, just normal.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by **BKKSTAN** » November 30, 2007, 9:31 pm

Well said banpaeng

Post by **banpaeng** » November 30, 2007, 9:46 pm

Thanks Stan, My point is to not be an a$$ but not cave in to each thing also. If you were in any other country you would discuss each issue. You should in Thailand also. Even in the US money is discussed. Or is it?

My son just got married here in the US. Married a women from the US. They spent an awful lot of money for the wedding. I mean a lot by my standards. Are thngs really different, in my opinion not much.

Put the shoe on the other foot. If a very rich woman wanted to date me and lavish money on me, would I stand back and say no please don't spend that on me. I doubt I would and I doubt most any other would.

Do what you say and stand by your word. Once explained to your girl and then it is tested, then your wife will explain to family and all will go better. Will it ever end, NO, however expectations will lower.

Post by **Maligator** » November 30, 2007, 10:25 pm

I agree with all.
No sin sod for this one...

But why do they always say, "but I'm Thai" and "it's my culture".

Mine has tried several times with this and I just tell her...

"Well, that's my culture, and it's my culture that provides the green in your pocket."

I don't hear this s*it for a week or two after.

Post by **lynxlynx** » December 1, 2007, 1:29 am

Maligator wrote:But why do they always say, "but I'm Thai" and "it's my culture".

There is another argument I hate even more than this one. It goes like this (my recollection of the events is still sharp even after all this time, so the conversation described below is pretty much authentic).

"Whose pussy are you screwing?!?" (understand: you are screwing my pussy so you will do as I please ...), she yells at me.

Me quietly replying: "Obviously the wrong one."

Her facial color turns from bronze to grey in a split of a second, and I am thinking whether she will treat me with her tantrum or whether it's going to be the silent punishment. It's the silent show. She smashes the door and locks herself in her room. Good on you, girl. You need some time to think things over (I am quietly muttering through my teeth). I go back to my room, collect all her stuff and put it in front of her door. I am surprised how many things she's managed to bring in there. It's time to leave the house for a while! Back after 8 hours. Her stuff disappeared and there is no sign of her. Our flatmate is pointing with her finger at her (my girlfriend's) room. She gives me a wink and I am wondering why I didn't choose this girl from Singapore over my Thai girl. Aha, because she is a Muslim, that's why! But maybe my converting to Islam would be far more easier than putting up with the "Thai way". And why didn't I go for Emma? God, she looks like the twin of the Chinese actress from the David Bowie's video clip, my age, smart, funny, georgous, Hong Kong based HSBC manager, head over heels for me ... and says she can get me a job position with her company ... I am so f...ing stupid!!! Time to do some thinking on my own!

I go to my room and lay down for a while. I hear quiet sobbing in the next room. Is she doing it on purpose? I am not falling for this! Instead I turn on my notebook and start playing "Vietcong". It's a pathetic way of filtering out my frustrations but it's working! I am "taking out" - in a sniper mode - everything that moves on the screen and looks Asian. A few hours later I hear a quiet knocking on my door. I am just in the middle of annihilating an entire Vietnamese village with a flame gun and in no mood for the "making up" routine.

She knocks again: "Can I come in?"

I turn off my notebook: Come in, the door isn't locked".

She enters the room. Her teary eyes, sad look, and the submissive posture almost do the trick on me again. I feel that my anger is about to get evaporated. But now it's not the time to be weak. It's now or never for me. If I give in now, I will regret it in a matter of days.

"What can I do you for, BabyM?", I softly ask.

"I am so sorry! Can you forgive me? Can we just forget about it?", she sobs and the tears start running again.

"We need to talk. And if I get a single lie from you or hear any of the Thai BS talk, you are out!". She nods in agreement and I am surprised she didn't jump out and left. But wait, my darling! Here comes the shocker!

"I spoke to your ex-boyfriend from the States a few days ago." The shock is immediate. She opens her mouth and I can see her total disbelief, shock and panic.

"How?"

"He called, looking for you. And we spoke (for the first time) and I can only regret we didn't speak sooner. I know everything you told him about us. I know you told him that you will come back to him when I am gone for Europe. And I know he was the one who paid for your tuition (and not your aunt as you were claiming). And I know he got fed up with you a few months back, cut the money flow and told you to forget about the green card. Don't ask me how come we talked when you made us hate each other. It's a farang thing that you cannot understand!" I am really enjoying the last sentence.

"I also know that you are bragging to your friends here about how much you control me, how I cook for you, clean, pick you up at night from the station every day, help you with school and so on. It makes me sick to think that you consider that as my weakness. I also heard you were complaining about us not doing enough going out because I don't have the money."

"You disrespected me, lied to me and took me for granted. None of your lies were ever believed by me, I found out sooner or later about everything and it's time I open my eyes. I still want to believe that there is some future for us. But if you think there isn't, then tell me now and we will end it right here."

She bursts into tears and sobs: "I am sorry, I am so sorry! Please forgive me!"

I don't know what to say. A part of me wants to hug her, but the other part wants to kick her out.

I almost whisper: "If you ever lie to me again or give me any of your Thai BS, if I have the slightest doubt, then I will end it right there. From now on, I am not paying anything for you. Your tuition is prepaid and you make enough money from your part-time work to pay for your expenses. You do your part in the house and I never want to hear from anybody anything about us, because from now on whatever happens between us stays between us. You never contact your ex-boyfriend again. If you don't like it, you are free to go. If you think that you still want to be with me and can behave as I ask you to, then you can move your stuff back to my room".

There is no measure how fast she manages to move her stuff back. I never saw her move so fast. When she is done, she hugs me so hard that I can hardly move and she keeps on muttering and sobbing, "I love you, tilac. I am so sorry. I love you!"

"We will see about that", I am thinking for myself.

"One more thing, BabyM. Back to your pussy. I am really tired and bored of this doggy position you seem to constantly demand. It's time to go through the entire Camasutra book!"

The next three months are a pure bliss ......

Why are Thais so GREEDY !!!!

Why are Thais so GREEDY !!!!

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