Marrying aThai Girl with an adopted child

Post by **somchai** » March 12, 2008, 6:31 pm

Hi this is my first time on here so if i make any silly mistakes, please forgive me. Im English from Southampton and im soon to marry a Thai Lady whom already has a 3yr old child adopted from her brother. we in tend to go to England all three of us, at least for a while, i need to know because i cant seem to find the info on the various websites ive been to thats specific to my situation, i need to know if there are any visa issues? and what would be my responsibilities to this Child i.e were we to split would i be liable to pay maintenance for her? is there a scam in this situation that i could fall prey to? just like to know everything i can before going in to this situation, you here alot of things on these Thai forums and forwarned is forarmed! any info would be most appreciated

Post by **BKKSTAN** » March 12, 2008, 7:05 pm

Sounds like legal advice is the order of the day!

Post by **somchai** » March 12, 2008, 7:09 pm

thanks BKKSTAN... yeah thought it might be... still worth asking on the offchance, maybe someone else has encountered this situation themselves?

Cheers for your quick reply, you are my first

Post by **papaguido** » March 12, 2008, 7:28 pm

somchai wrote:Hi this is my first time on here so if i make any silly mistakes, please forgive me. Im English from Southampton and im soon to marry a Thai Lady whom already has a 3yr old child adopted from her brother. we in tend to go to England all three of us, at least for a while, i need to know because i cant seem to find the info on the various websites ive been to thats specific to my situation, i need to know if there are any visa issues? and what would be my responsibilities to this Child i.e were we to split would i be liable to pay maintenance for her? is there a scam in this situation that i could fall prey to? just like to know everything i can before going in to this situation, you here alot of things on these Thai forums and forwarned is forarmed! any info would be most appreciated

How soon is soon, maybe you should be taking a time out until you get things sorted. Is there a free legal advise hot line available in your area. Good luck.

Post by **somchai** » March 12, 2008, 7:31 pm

No date set as yet, think i will take your advice!

cheers

Post by **beer monkey** » March 12, 2008, 7:56 pm

Has your girlfriend legally/officially adopted the child from her brother..?

Post by **BobHelm** » March 12, 2008, 8:08 pm

Citizens Advice might be a good place to start. They won't have an answer for you on the spot but I have found them very good at getting at an answer for you if you lay all the facts on them & then give them a bit of time. A bit unusual from the normal questions that they have to answer so I am sure that they would jump at the chance to help - even if their final answer was that you should see a solicitor before you do anything!!!

Post by **Stevo** » March 12, 2008, 8:15 pm

somchai wrote:Hi this is my first time on here

Welcome to the forum somchai

somchai wrote: Im English from Southampton

Bitterne by any chance?

somchai wrote: i need to know if there are any visa issues?

Of course there are... your girlfriend and her adopted child will both need visas to enter UK, either tourist or settlement visas... neither are easy to obtain.

somchai wrote: and what would be my responsibilities to this Child

That depends on whether you are the sponsor for the child's visa

somchai wrote: i.e were we to split would i be liable to pay maintenance for her?

If you marry this girl and adopt the child, then yes.
Plus, if you sponsor the child's visa, then you are responsible for the welfare of that child for (at least) the course of the visa.

somchai wrote: is there a scam in this situation that i could fall prey to?

Yes, several! so be very careful... take your time and be sure this is what YOU really want to do.

laphanphon · Post by **laphanphon** » March 12, 2008, 8:21 pm

also, make sure the brother's child is just that, it happens. an aquaintence of mine thinks his wife is raising nieces. not my place to tell him they are daughters. if everything in thai, legal advice and translations would be nice.

good luck.

Post by **RALPHCUSENS** » March 12, 2008, 8:47 pm

Hi, fellow Hampshire Hogg!

La's point, is very apt, make sure that the child is adopted! and not as tall story, (without going into the obvious).

I think that you will find that the obtaining of the visas, could prove problematic, and quite long winded.

You will be required to show, length of time you have been in the relationship, that you have the means to support your family, and that at the end of the visa period, that she intends to return to Thailand.(depending of the type of visa you intend applying for).

I am in the process of applying for a visa for my wife, and the amount of information they require is supprising!

So the best of luck, take it step by step, and it will probably turn out OK

All the best,
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Post by **gulfman** » March 12, 2008, 9:05 pm

Are you in Thailand at present? A friend of mine tried a similar thing about five years ago - I recall the big stumbilig block was in respect of British visas (Note Ralph's advice on this). So, a good place to start might be a call to the Brirtish Embassy in Bangkok.

The other opinions expressed are all very valid.

Post by **somchai** » March 12, 2008, 11:57 pm

A warm thank you to everyone that has replied to my post so swiftly and most of it has been helpful. Im actually from Southampton city centre its self, but originally from Andover. =D>

again , a brilliant response thanks to everyone

Post by **somchai** » March 13, 2008, 12:45 am

Hi STEVO who's from Bitterne then? or is there a funny story related to Thai- Bitterne relationship?

Post by **arjay** » March 13, 2008, 1:22 am

Somchai, Hi, welcome to the Forum.

I knew a fellow farang who was trying to take his Thai wife and her child to his home country and the problem he had was obtaining the permission and signature of the child's Thai father. So I would ensure that the child is properly adopted (if that really is the situation) and whose signature is required to allow/authorise the child to leave Thailand, as you aren't the child's father.

Post by **beer monkey** » March 13, 2008, 1:30 am

A friend of mine brought another mans child over to uk after he brought his wife back to uk, and she had to track down the ex-husband/father of the child and get him to sign some documents, in his case the ex/husband/father wanted some cash before he signed..!!!! after a bit of arseing about, the lad has been in the uk for several years and has fitted in well with everything.

Post by **Roadman** » March 13, 2008, 2:15 am

Hi Somcahi.

All very good advive above and as pointed out most of it "follow the steps" and it will happen. And obviously the one that you need to do the most work on to get it to happen is the legal parentship of the child documentation. I would recomend the same as others that you contact your embassy first and clarify what documentation they require for the child's visa, and also most importantly what "exact wording" is required in all required documentation for that childs visa.

Collecting up the documentation is an adventure

as I have learnt. Thai's do not always get everything legally registered at the Amphur office, so documentation may not always be in place as it would in the western world. {At all times grin and think TIT, and keep your mind open to learning a lot}. This is where the "exact wording" is damn important because what ever documents are not at the Amphur office can be provided on evidence sworn at the Amphur office of those who are party to the event. If you do need to go down this line you may wish to get a local lawyer or similar conveyance type who can speak and read good English involved in this as the most important thing with this is they are all speaking and writting everything in Thai that has to be translated to English and contain the "exact wording" that your Embassy require.
In my own case also involving adopted children we had to get one party back a third time and his impeccable patience was beginning to wear very thin. We have the first of our thai daughters coming back to Kiwiland with us next month.

Post by **somchai** » March 13, 2008, 11:41 pm

Hi everyone ,it was mentioned there are several scams related to adopted children / thai marriage /relationships if any one could give me the heads up on those incase i recognise one in my current situation i would be most greatful

Post by **beer monkey** » March 13, 2008, 11:46 pm

Somchai....Have you asked your gf if she has the official paper work for the adoption of her brothers child..?..just tell her the embassy has asked you the question when you inquired , if she wants to know why.

Post by **somchai** » March 13, 2008, 11:51 pm

she says its legal with papers but didnt go into detail with her at the time. something i always knew i would have to check on

Post by **beer monkey** » March 13, 2008, 11:53 pm

First step in the right direction then........

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