Salute to American Miltary Veterans

[laphanphon]

that's what i thought

just my own observations/propaganda, as he decided to post his. not a rant, way too short for that

but please, don't let this mislead anyone. title of thread, not the link, expresses my feelings, as anti war or war monging as i can be, the service of those who volunteer to serve in not unappreciated or unnoticed. it does keep America free, well almost, but free from outside elements harming a nation of free thinking, educated people. as all nations have their own internal problems and politicians to deal with, it is one less thing to worry about and often forgotten why it is all possible.

without their/that sacrifice, it would certainly be a different country and different world. don't let my rhetoric be mistaken for not supporting their efforts, though i may disagree with the leaders decision, i can't and have no right to disagree with their decision to serve. the world is a better place for that service.

[Red_Fist]

aaaaghg.
okok the moderator was perfectly fair, he didn't forewarn me but he did PM me, wich is appreciated.

But all that site is, is showing more reports of what we NEVER see on TV or regular networks.
It's seems to me that people should be extremely mad that if the news is reporting to push an agenda at the cost of more lives.
I have read it, from troops, I have heard it from a lot of people who talk to the troops at bases.
One leader from Iraq was here in USA about 2 weeks ago said "the news is focusing on the negative, and don't be mistaken their are problems" and he named an area up north somplace.

I have read many reports, and the so called news is blatently 100% not reporting.
I have read and heard a guy who spelled things out as he went out with the troops.

One town a suicide bomber came in, the Iraqi army were shooting, the marines were taking a break in some building, the bomber was the ONLY one who was killed, the marines were not their on the scene but close by.
Well he goes on to say he heard on all the news networks 20 to 50 were killed, and it is a proven thing the networks lied.

He said the way it works the main news people hang out in the green zone, people they call "officials" call in on the phone and give them reports.These people who call in he said could be anybody called "stringers", while the news team is in the green zone in some area has bunk beds lined up, they NEVER go out with the troops.

The thing I posted was just an info thread type of thing, the reason it had only one reply is because it was like no older than an hour or 2.
I don't know about this website, is it in Thailand, or USA, is it illeagal to post links.?

But what I would like to know from any human on earth, if a site as people say is propaganda, how is it they report the killings and bombs along with other NEWS thats going on in Iraq.
It looks to me that the regular news has worked people over and are now the result of real brainwashing, because I see PROOF that it is NOT the way it is being reported.

I put up a thread showing FACTS, I am not affiliated with any group at all, this is all my own doing because we are being cheated and I feel it's my duty as an American to show ALL of what what is happening in Iraq, it is not propaganda whatsoever.

If it was all hype I would not waste my time trying to get people to read and know more than what they hear on the radio and TV.
Even foxnews is not doing their job, it's a real shame this is going like it is.Then for this site to take it off, more or less proved the truth is being shut out.

Once I read a few things going on, I was blown away that in America and with all this freedom of the press, and people seeking information, to find the news having an axe to grind.If it wasn't like that I would not be trying to get out MORE reports.

Even if you hate Bush it is the greatest injustice I have EVER known by what I hear on the so called news networks, the Iraqis, the troops and the public are all being cheated.
The bad guys with showing their bombs are in reality getting credit.

I hope they have a plan for this info problem, and our news has to eat crow so bad.I cannot see why I have to do this, the army and Bush or whoever should be out explaining these reports, not little ol me.

I hope they put that thread back up, it's just FACTS without some editor news guy messing things up.

And sorry if I messed up your thread, I found one that was close to my topic.

[BKKSTAN]

If the site is actual news reports,I don't see why it should be banned!Whether or not it can be judged propaganda or not should not be an issue!Everything is propaganda in some form.Obviously the site and Red_Fist are interested in seeing that the public has access to all the news,not just what the major news media consider we should hear for whatever reasons or agendas they have in mind!

The problem Red_Fist,IMO,is that the president and the war are very unpopular at this moment!The news media is an entertainment industry looking to accumulate as many viewers as possible!Add to that,IMO,of those in the entertainment business,the liberal actors with Utopian fantasy veiwpoints control the majority position,therefore to meet their agenda,we get only the reports that support their views!

Whenever a terrorist attack is reported,the results are used to enhance the view that we are losing and any civilian casualties by our actions are condemned and dramatized!
You never see a liberal change their position or admit mistakes.The same is almost as bad with the conservative,except they will ocassionally own up to bad judgement mistake or human error!Once the line is drawn,it is almost set in stone!The liberals are in the majority now,so you should expect a lot of flack!
Thanks for the links!

[muscle]

Reminds of an experience I had while performing duties as Active duty staff for a Marine Corp reserve unit in San Jose, CA.

Rito, I had the same thing happen while wearing my officer's Air Force Dress Mess uniform with the short jacket for an event in Dallas. I was asked to bring two martini's. I went to the bar (open/no charge) and got two with a silver tray and towel. When I returned, I charged the lady $42. She shuttered for a minute but I told her that it was not an open bar. She forked over a $50, not to look cheap to her friend, and I wandered back into the crowd. My Commander watched the whole thing and got a good laugh. Being ignorant can cost.
You can be in the military or be a civilian and support the troops without supporting Bush and his piece-meal destruction of America. It's a job to most people, with a bit of patriotism thrown in. The life is tough enough that no one would do it for ideological reasons alone. It paid me well and I never had to worry about what to wear to work.
Bush is a demon. Whether his reign of terror will wake the American people up is debatable.