EV in Thailand

[Doodoo]

With the oncoming change of vehicles from Hydrocarbon power to Electric vehicles I was wondering what will happen to all the dealerships and their inventories of Motorbikes, cars, vans, dump trucks, transports etc? Cant imagine that it will be a great story and that people will profit. As we all know Thailand has hundreds, I should say millions of used vehicles sitting on the sides of roadways at Dealerships.

Just cant see it folks

[jackspratt]

They will probably change their business models over a 5-15 year adjustment period.

Hope that helps.

ps I wasn't aware that electric motorbikes were about to become a big thing.

[Potamoi]

ps I wasn't aware that electric motorbikes were about to become a big thing.

I imagine teams of electricians will be put forth to cover the odd mains sockets at Big-C, DoHome, Global and Lotus's country wide to prevent casual electricity theft.

[the-monk]

<< the oncoming change of vehicles from Hydrocarbon power to Electric vehicles >>
Changes are now, the EV sales figures grow exponentially.


<< Thailand is an example of the success of electric cars in the region. It saw 1,056 of these cars sold in 2020, 1,935 in 2021 and 9,729 last year.
But in the first five months of this year 24,106 electric cars were sold. >>
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/readers-vi ... 17835.html

<< Take Taiwan for example. Electric Gogoro motorcycles are all over the streets there. People use them for their daily commute including going to work, shopping and picking up their children from school. They don't need an SUV or MPV. >>

<< Reference: 2022 EV Sales
In 2022, more than 750,000 new all-electric cars were registered in the US, which was 57 percent more than in 2021 and 5.6 percent of the total market. Meanwhile, the total market decreased 11 percent year-over-year to 13.6 million units, according to Experian (via Automotive News).18 Mar 202​2​
US: All-Electric Car Sales Surged In January 2023 - InsideEVs>>

<< >>
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+man ... e&ie=UTF-8

[Doodoo]

Move over and make room EVs. Hydrogen is on its way

https://aseannow.com/topic/1298159-toyo ... _source=NL

[jackspratt]

Clickbait bullshhiit video.

Toyota Accelerates Its EV Changes With Extra $7 Billion Investment

https://www.wsj.com/articles/toyota-acc ... t-b323eb1c

[Drunk Monkey]

Chatting to a Bkk buddy and hes loving his new Volvo EV .. fantastic for his city lifestyle ...like me though he still has a stinky diesel pick up for longer trips and moving stuff.

Lots of other options re automobile power ... and it all started here in 1968 ..a blast from my early years.

https://youtu.be/-uU6KzAbSTg

dm

[glalt]

I did read an article about some delivery companies in cities are using small battery powered delivery trucks. They are happy with them because charging is not a problem. They use slide in battery packs. Unfortunately I have seen no other vehicles that the batteries can be easily swapped.

[Doodoo]

Development in other areas of transportation other than hydrocarbon burning.

Australia and their efforts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg80K34tgOA
Not only transport but available for food.

[Whistler]

I did read an article about some delivery companies in cities are using small battery powered delivery trucks. They are happy with them because charging is not a problem. They use slide in battery packs. Unfortunately I have seen no other vehicles that the batteries can be easily swapped.

Taxi cabs in Beijing are electric and used swap over batteries that are loaded by robots.. Pull into the replacement bay, the old battery is removed and to recharging section, the new one loded in and off you go, efficent amd smart

[Doodoo]

Changing batteries for bicycles

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LBKKkpkhgFc

[Barney]

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2023/11/01/w ... lowed.html

[Whistler]

Imagine

Every TV remote could only use the manufacturers batteries. Ditto to every flashlight, and every other small cordless appliance. No D, or AA or AAA's. It would be chaotic.

Yet cars and cordless tool manufactuers force this on us, there should be standardisation on cars, tools etc and replacement stations like they have in major cities in China.

EV's will probably have a role in greening transportation, maybe 20% or more, unless the technology gets a whole lot better it will be expensive and for many impractical.

Instead of blankly mandating what people can buy, governments might play a leadership role in making the technology more practical by enforcing standardisation.

[Barney]

Sounds like a communist China thought. Standardise everything.

Im sure that each manufacturer (at least all of the Chinese manufacturers, under the chairman's doctrine) has thought or rather been told to standardise Chinese batteries for Chinese vehicles across all of their own models.
I think the Chinese MG is put together here.

Chinese EV vehicles in Thailand is totally leading the market here.
It plays out in what i see on the highways these days. 1 tesla to 10 Chinese, usually 3 letter named vehicles.
Yesterday on the way home a BYD EV sandwiched between to Tojo pickups. BYD totalled and not much damage to the HiLux's, standardised 2nd hand batteries available from that wreck.

https://carnewschina.com/2024/01/09/byd ... runner-up/

[Whistler]

Pretty standard for a lot of Chinese vehicles Barney, they are nowhere need the build quality or strength of Korean or Japanese vehicles, but remember we used to talk about Jap Crap years ago, no longer. Within 10 years they will.probably come up to better standards. As far as standardisation goes, unless Europe or America take the lead I don't think much will happen.

[tamada]

Pretty standard for a lot of Chinese vehicles Barney, they are nowhere need the build quality or strength of Korean or Japanese vehicles, but remember we used to talk about Jap Crap years ago, no longer. Within 10 years they will.probably come up to better standards. As far as standardisation goes, unless Europe or America take the lead I don't think much will happen.

How can European and American standardization of EV batteries ever take a lead when they'll never be a major producer or user of the technology? They're wasting time and money if they think they can catch up with China and the regional EV markets they have developed. Based on European EV market saturation, the Norwegians should be flying that flag, no?

[noosard]

Standardized like metric or imperial or celsius, kelvin and fahrenheit
The market did sort out beta and vhs
But phone batteries and cables are still a mess 30 years down the track

[Whistler]

Pretty standard for a lot of Chinese vehicles Barney, they are nowhere need the build quality or strength of Korean or Japanese vehicles, but remember we used to talk about Jap Crap years ago, no longer. Within 10 years they will.probably come up to better standards. As far as standardisation goes, unless Europe or America take the lead I don't think much will happen.

How can European and American standardization of EV batteries ever take a lead when they'll never be a major producer or user of the technology? They're wasting time and money if they think they can catch up with China and the regional EV markets they have developed. Based on European EV market saturation, the Norwegians should be flying that flag, no?

The EU is a huge consumer, not a huge producer, so they have the power to regulate. Great examples are in the IT industry that regulated bad practices from Microsoft and Google, both American companies forced to comply to EU laws.

[pipoz4444]

This is one reason why EV's will struggle to get a foot hold in the Bangkok city areas, where many people live in Condo's

The Thai Juristic Building Management system (and those Owners who participate in the annual meetings) will not at this stage and likely never allow EV's to be parked in the Condo underground parking facilities. The Building Insurance renewables will just be too prohibitive, for both the Juristic and the EV Owners.

The Juristic will also expect EV Owners to take out hefty insurance policies to cover, general damage for property protection, damage to damage including structural damage to the Condo building & facilities, along with cover to other residents personal property. I wish the EV owners good luck with paying their premiums (they will need a Bank loan every year) that is if the EV Owner can find an Insurance Company willing to even offer them a Policy.

Meanwhile EV Owners will be lucky if they are permitted to park out in the streets of Watthana or Khlong Toei, where there are an estimated 17,000 plus Condo's and no Juristic that I know are willing to let an EV be parked in the basement of a Condo building.





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JVtTFFITkc

[jackspratt]

Do you have any links, specific to Thailand, to support your views, pipo?