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Post by cnkbud » January 23, 2006, 12:59 am

Hi to all and I know this is kind of off the beaten path but would like to know the availability of subj from local growers and how the they compare to the full blown supermarkets in term of quality and price. I like lots of vegetables in my diet such as carrots, eggplant, ear sweet corn, those good old round sweet onions, cucumbers, ice lettuce, cabbage(both full head and Chinese), celery, potatos, green beans(and good old Navy white beans for making soup), asparagus, etc. As for fruits, oranges/tangerines, apples, grapes, bananas, pears, persimmons, and all those native Thai fruits which are really great. Meats such as good cuts of beef, pork, chicken, and Yes!, good old hambuger and hot dogs. Dairy items, milk, eggs. Bakery items such as loaf white and mutigrain bread, rolls, hamburger and hotdog buns. Grains such as oatmeal and of course No. 1 long and short grain rice. This would be quite a rundown for replying to but if anyone cares to give it a shot would really appreciate it. As I will be on my own if retiring up there, will probably be eating out most of time but would still like have some meals in my own hutch. Maybe something like this could possibly be added to the cost of living section here but maybe would be too much trouble to maintain and probably not worth the effort. Don't think there's much I can't get there that I couldn't get back here anyway, just curious. By the way, here in the swampland, the prices have increased dramatically the last coupla of years but still fairly good value considering. Thanks and have great day.
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Post by BobHelm » January 23, 2006, 1:44 am

Wow Bud, a bit of a list :D
So i will answer in general terms, or try to, from what I have seen in Udon and the towns and villages about. Firstly there is no doubt the the variety and choice of products in Udon itself is first class. You can get anything from your list in Udon but you might have to go to the supermarkets for some of it. I am certainly not an expert of the meat side (Sean would be far more knowledgable) but I have found chicken and beef (could well have been buffalo tho :D ) that was as good as anything I could buy in the UK in places like Bandung. The fish is excellent as, if you buy in local makets is still alive when you buy. Fruit and veg is certainly not a problem although fresh to Udon area is often seasonal. I saw just about everything you mentioned in the fruit and veg division growing in Chang Mai and the quality is excellent - although the visual impact of things like bananas & oranges isn't up to UK supermarket standards the taste inside is 100% better :D
The price is small when compared to the UK. oranges in CM were 10 baht a kilo, local 'beef' is about 140 baht a kilo and prawns are about 200 baht a kilo, but that depends where you buy and if it is in season.
Most of the thais in the villages grow their own herbs and salad items - the thing that makes things seasonal is the rain, so if you are only growing things for family consumption keeping a 'garden' wet isn't really an issue all year round.
The bread i have had in Thailand isn't great, but I eat little of it when I am there so maybe just haven't found the right place to buy it.
Hot dogs & hamburgers aren't really my thing either but most of the American big chain fast food places are in Udon.
I can see many reasons for not living in Udon - just as I can see many reasons for me to live there - but the quality and price of food products certainly wouldn't be one of the negatives...

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Post by yorkman » January 23, 2006, 2:06 am

A bit overwhelmed by your needs bud :lol: but as Bob says.

Whatever your food needs, apart from farang speciality items, it is available in Udon.

If you check the markets the range of healthy food from vegetables to fish, including all your list, is vast. You may need to substitute your favourite for its close Thai equivalent, but it will be fresh from the farm, no preservatives or chemicals. Good cuts of meat are a problem because they tend to just smash it up with a cleaver (the same as Sean with his chicken :fryingpan:) but cooked the Thai way it tastes very good too.

Do you not know Thailand is famous for its excellent food?. Its True :D

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Post by cnkbud » January 23, 2006, 6:45 am

Thanks guys and for that info with my long list and having shopped nowhere but the big supermarkets in Bangkok found many of the vegetables, especially carrots and potatos not all that great quality and the better ones were all imported, most from Australia; and the apples were also mostly imported mostly from several countries and of really good quality, and not much pricey than here in the USA. That's really good news about many things there not being subject to the insecticides and other stuff like most are from here, the 1st thing one has to do after buying them here is to wash them off, and the apples here are all waxed up to make them look more attractive. Am sure I can get by up there very easily with what you mentioned, and hey, maybe I can even find me a local "cook" to make up a good meal from time to time for an old guy like me. Thanks again for your time and have a great day. Old Bud

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Post by Paul » January 23, 2006, 6:32 pm

BobHelm wrote: better :D

Hot dogs & hamburgers aren't really my thing either but most of the American big chain fast food places are in Udon...
Well I haven't seen anything apart from KFC and Swensons - which don't sell hamburgers or hot dogs!!!

Am I missing something?

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Post by yorkman » January 23, 2006, 7:46 pm

Paul wrote:Well I haven't seen anything apart from KFC and Swensons - which don't sell hamburgers or hot dogs!!!

Am I missing something?
They do sell a rather unpleasant hamburger at KFC; once bitten, twice...errrr.....sick

If McDonalds do arrive, wonder what the Thai applicants will be like, found on the net:


This is an actual job application someone submitted at a McDonald's fast-food establishment ... and they hired him! As what?

1. NAME: Greg Bulmash

2. DESIRED POSITION: Reclining. Ha ha. But seriously, whatever's
available. If I was in a position to be picky, I wouldn't be applying
here in the first place.

3. DESIRED SALARY: $185,000 a year plus stock options and a
Michael Ovitz-style severance package. If that's not possible, make
an offer and we can haggle.

4. EDUCATION: Yes.

5. LAST POSITION HELD: Target for middle management hostility.

6. SALARY: Less than I'm worth.

7. MOST NOTABLE ACHIEVEMENT: My incredible collection of
stolen pens and Post-it Notes.

8. REASON FOR LEAVING: It stank.

9. HOURS AVAILABLE TO WORK: Any.

10. PREFERRED HOURS: 1:30-3:30 p.m., Monday, Tuesday, and
Thursday.

11. MAY WE CONTACT YOUR CURRENT EMPLOYER?: If I
had one, would I be here?

12. DO YOU HAVE ANY PHYSICAL CONDITIONS THAT
WOULD PROHIBIT YOU FROM LIFTING (UP TO 50 LBS)?:
Of what?

13. DO YOU HAVE A CAR?: I think the more appropriate question
here would be, "Do you have a car that runs?"

14. HAVE YOU RECEIVED ANY SPECIAL AWARDS OR
RECOGNITION?: I may already be a winner of the Publishers
Clearinghouse Sweepstakes.

15. DO YOU SMOKE?: Only when set on fire.

16. WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE DOING IN FIVE YEARS?:
Living in the Bahamas with a fabulously wealthy super model who
thinks I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread. Actually, I'd like to
be doing that now.

17. DO YOU CERTIFY THAT THE ABOVE IS TRUE AND
COMPLETE TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE?: No,
but I dare you to prove otherwise.

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Post by Bump » January 25, 2006, 10:05 pm

You can get a great burger at TJ's they have very good chilli as well. There is a good steak at Harry's Bar and a new steak house Richardson Steak House I believe. has opened on ring road as soon as they get the newnest mistakes out of the way should be good. We have a Mexican resturant in town now. There is one American Chain where you can gte a burger exactly the same as they serve it in America Sizzlers in the Robinson complex. Hot dogs Dairy Queen in Robinson's and big C. The reason the burger tastes so bad in KFC, is it is a chicken sandwhich 8)

There are two Italian resturants in town one is very good, a french resturatn and several english returants as well

If you want american food cooked be prepared to reach someone how to cook it, once my wife is shown she usually makes it better then I do.

Navy Beans you may have to get that in Bangkok, not sure.

You van survive and get fat here :lol:

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Post by Bump » January 25, 2006, 10:07 pm

You can get a great burger at TJ's they have very good chilli as well. There is a good steak at Harry's Bar and a new steak house Richardson Steak House I believe. has opened on ring road as soon as they get the newnest mistakes out of the way should be good. We have a Mexican resturant in town now. There is one American Chain where you can gte a burger exactly the same as they serve it in America Sizzlers in the Robinson complex. Hot dogs Dairy Queen in Robinson's and big C. The reason the burger tastes so bad in KFC, is it is a chicken sandwhich 8)

There are two Italian resturants in town one is very good, a french resturant and several english resturants as well

If you want american food cooked be prepared to reach someone how to cook it, once my wife is shown she usually makes it better then I do.

Navy Beans you may have to get that in Bangkok, not sure.

You van survive and get fat here :lol:

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Post by beer monkey » January 25, 2006, 11:52 pm

Hamurgers KFC ??? :shock:
Sizzler for me never disappointed with any thing i've had there,fill ya boots on salad/dessert bar. Is sizzler american or australian ?
And what is a navy bean and where is it from please ?

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Can You Dig It Dug.?

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Post by yorkman » January 26, 2006, 1:56 am

ray23 wrote:The reason the burger tastes so bad in KFC, is it is a chicken sandwhich 8)
Ahhhhh!!! :lol: :oops: I was'nt really looking to be honest (there with 6 kids.. :roll: ) I just ordered a burger looking thing, bit into it, and thought "what the h*** is this!!" It was truly.....errrrr.....foul

Thank you Ray, I knew an American could explain 8)
BEER MONKEY wrote: And what is a navy bean and where is it from please ?
Being from the UK, you've already had many probably, it's what goes in Baked Bean Cans. As in "Beanz meanz Fartz" to misquote the Heinz advert

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Post by Bump » January 26, 2006, 2:41 am

Sizzler is from America,navy bean as close as I can explain it is like very small dried lima bean, not sure where they are from.

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Post by cnkbud » January 26, 2006, 11:23 pm

Hi Beer Monkey and to others who have commented on my posting here.
Navy beans are white beans that are very common here in the USA, the larger ones are commonly know as Great Northern and the smaller ones are Navy Beans which a few years ago I quess were part of the US Navy meal program. White beans are one of the bean family such as Lima, Pinto, Pink and a whole host of the dry bean line, and probably not too well know outside of the USA. Hey, cook some Navy beans along with a ham hock in a slow cooker, put in some chopped onions, and good old southern style cornbeard, a glass of buttermilk, and you got a good old fashioned mini-meal. Have a good one and enjoy. Old Bud

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