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Post by parrot » April 26, 2016, 2:33 pm

I'm not trying to ring alarm bells.......but it would seem wise to have some alternative water plans in your hip pocket if you don't already. The water level in Udon's primary dam (Huai Luang) is critically low......7%......and dropping a percentage or so every 4 or 5 days. I've seen some signs (billboards) around town urging residents to conserve water.....but beyond that, I've seen nothing that limits car washing, lawn watering, etc etc.
For those who depend on tap water in town, it might not be a bad idea to have plans to top some reserve buckets/tubs up in case the taps start to run dry.
I lived in Okinawa during several years of extreme drought. Water was off for 36 hours, on for 12. No car washing, no lawn watering, etc etc. If you weren't prepared to top up the tub during that 12 hour period, you lived to regret it during the following 36 hours. I recall going for 5 days without a shower......and flying 2 12 hours missions during that time in the same flight suit. Nasty nasty nasty. But everyone else was pretty much in the same boat (plane), so no one noticed.....much.
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Post by Barney » April 26, 2016, 2:49 pm

Maybe that's why the village water is down to a trickle out of the hose most times and wont even reach the top of the water tank with pressure to fill. Would only be 1.7 mtr high.
Some nights ok.
Must have the pump at the dam wound back.

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Post by 12345 » April 26, 2016, 3:20 pm

19 k above ground, 4 k in the ground, and 14 k in the pool...............water problems, not here.
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Post by RLTrader » April 26, 2016, 5:00 pm

Plan C - What do you do when everyone follows Plan B and hoards all the water?

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Post by rick » April 26, 2016, 5:09 pm

Have deep pockets ....

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Post by 12345 » April 26, 2016, 5:19 pm

All mine could be collected during rainy season, and if full at the end of, using 200 liters a day, more than needed, should last till next rainy season. Village water was OK till couple weeks before Songkran, then they started rationing.

Got 400 m² of roof, and if only a lowly one meter of rain fell, that would be 300 - 400 k liters of water for the year. Though would need a 20 X 20 x 1 m holding tank, or 10 x 10 x 2 .... next house......then I could water the lawn during dry season.

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Post by 12345 » April 26, 2016, 5:43 pm

Annual Weather Summary over Thailand in 2015
In 2015, the majority of Thailand was much warmer and drier than usual. Annual rainfall
averaged over the country of 1,419.6 mm was 168.1 mm (11%) below the 1981-2010 normal.
Average rain is over 1.5 meter a year, and if manage to save only 1 meter of that, times your m² of roof, and you have the available rain water you can save.

Now just need somewhere to put it. 100 liters a day is more than enough, for necessities. So a good 36 k liters saved, though reality, only need about half that, as rainy season will provide as you go. So round up to 20 k liters for easy math and ten 2 k or five 4 k liter tanks should hold most people over.

Most houses have 100 m² of roof.............it's not rocket science.

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Post by pal52 » April 26, 2016, 6:00 pm

12345 wrote:
Annual Weather Summary over Thailand in 2015
In 2015, the majority of Thailand was much warmer and drier than usual. Annual rainfall
averaged over the country of 1,419.6 mm was 168.1 mm (11%) below the 1981-2010 normal.
Average rain is over 1.5 meter a year, and if manage to save only 1 meter of that, times your m² of roof, and you have the available rain water you can save.

Now just need somewhere to put it. 100 liters a day is more than enough, for necessities. So a good 36 k liters saved, though reality, only need about half that, as rainy season will provide as you go. So round up to 20 k liters for easy math and ten 2 k or five 4 k liter tanks should hold most people over.

Most houses have 100 m² of roof.............it's not rocket science.
No it is not rocket science.
to put 10 x 2,000 liter tanks you need the space plus the solid concrete foundations to put them on unless you want to put them on the ground where the rain falls & have them sink & break all the pipes to link them.
The answer is to get the local government to manage the rainfall & put it into a reservoir (existing if possible).
This is what I would call an essential part of the infrastructure to which all previous Governments have ignored.

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Post by bumper » April 26, 2016, 6:33 pm

There have been ties that you needed to buy water from a big truck and put it in your storage tank. Thai's won't save water the concept escapes them.

Best guess I have a five day supply if I step in and stop them from running it down the driveway.

It may become a real problem
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Post by 12345 » April 26, 2016, 7:34 pm

pal52 wrote:No it is not rocket science.
to put 10 x 2,000 liter tanks you need the space plus the solid concrete foundations to put them on unless you want to put them on the ground where the rain falls & have them sink & break all the pipes to link them.
The answer is to get the local government to manage the rainfall & put it into a reservoir (existing if possible).
This is what I would call an essential part of the infrastructure to which all previous Governments have ignored.
Really...............waiting for the gov't to hold your hand.........that's not a solution, and it seems, that apparently is the current system, which has failed miserably. Five 4 k liter tanks, don't take much space, especially if you own more than 100 TW, or house is on stilts, or one on each corner of the house + 1. Houses on stilts, store underneath.

Really........

........ sounds like a few excuses not to plan. Anyone saving water in these developments. 3 mill house and up, people driving 1 mill price tag vehicles, but can't invest 50 k baht to save much needed water. Lots of the poorest and uneducated have no problem saving water.

The rest are simply arrogant.

Lots of people have rain gutters...........directing the water to ...............

And people complain about a nanny state. Seat belt, hmm, if not a law. Airbags in cars..hmm. Don't drink and drive, don't smoke.

Save water for dry season......hmm........do you really need someone to tell, make a law. Apparently common sense isn't so common.

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Post by Khun Paul » April 26, 2016, 7:50 pm

One of the problems in storing a lot of water is how to keep said water usable, constantly changing the water will help even if you top up the top10% after use it would keep the scum off it and stop it getting slimy on the edges. I am reasonably lucky, I have a well which tops up my garden tanks and the local village is still giving me water to top up any the tanks I use for daily consumption which is about 200 litres a day averaging it out with the washing machine etc .

In the non-rainy season I never water the grass, it is one plant that always recovers when it rains.

Water storage is something that even the latest housing estates give scant attendance to, not one house has gutters and if they do it just falls onto the ground it would appear that having tanks is unsightly, with these new fangled plastic multi-coloured tanks, who really wants bright blue tank next to them I ask you.

When I came here I purchased all Stainless steel all 11 of them various sizes the majority 1250 one 2000, 2500, 3000

Holding 8700 litres for the garden and 8700 odd for the house . The reason I went for over 6000 litres for the house was that a small water delivery truck holds about 6000 litres therefore it is cheaper to have him drop the whole tanker into your tanks rather than have him running around with a half empty truck. Current price about 550 Thb.

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Post by papafarang » April 27, 2016, 10:57 am

12345 wrote:19 k above ground, 4 k in the ground, and 14 k in the pool...............water problems, not here.
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