German ****/rapist arrested

Post by **izzix** » February 13, 2007, 1:26 am

Asia-Pacific News
Thai police arrest German on charges of raping minor

Feb 12, 2007, 11:31 GMT

Bangkok - Thai police arrested a German national over the weekend on charges of raping and abducting a minor, media reports said on Monday.

Police arrested the man, identified as 64-year-old Helmut Nils of Frankfurt, on Saturday shortly after the Udon Thani Court issued an arrest warrant for him on rape charges.

Police Colonel Manit Keowwong of Kudjap district, Udon Thani, 450 kilometres north-east of Bangkok, said Nils was arrested in a rented house with a 12 year-old Thai girl, said Thai Rath newspaper.

Police also found pornographic videos and a digital movie camera containing a clip of the girl doing a strip tease.

If found guilty of raping a minor, Nils faces a minimum jail sentenced of ten years in prison. Nils, a former computer technician, had been visiting Thailand on a regular basis for the past 15 years and was fluent in the language, police said.

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Post by **ttom** » February 13, 2007, 5:02 am

izzix wrote:

Asia-Pacific News
Thai police arrest German on charges of raping minor

Feb 12, 2007, 11:31 GMT

Bangkok - Thai police arrested a German national over the weekend on charges of raping and abducting a minor, media reports said on Monday.

Police arrested the man, identified as 64-year-old Helmut Nils of Frankfurt, on Saturday shortly after the Udon Thani Court issued an arrest warrant for him on rape charges.

Police Colonel Manit Keowwong of Kudjap district, Udon Thani, 450 kilometres north-east of Bangkok, said Nils was arrested in a rented house with a 12 year-old Thai girl, said Thai Rath newspaper.

Police also found pornographic videos and a digital movie camera containing a clip of the girl doing a strip tease.

If found guilty of raping a minor, Nils faces a minimum jail sentenced of ten years in prison. Nils, a former computer technician, had been visiting Thailand on a regular basis for the past 15 years and was fluent in the language, police said.

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They should lock him away and damp the key somewhere into the ocean.

Post by **beer monkey** » February 13, 2007, 6:16 am

thats going to be a hard ten years in a Thai monkey house for old helmut.

Post by **ttom** » February 13, 2007, 4:45 pm

beer monkey wrote:thats going to be a hard ten years in a Thai monkey house for old helmut.

He has money. But hopefully they are going to drain the very last satang out of him.

People like him give Thailand a bad reputation.

Post by **Astana** » February 13, 2007, 6:04 pm

I don't believe that people like him give Thailand a bad reputation but they do give foreign nationals a bad reputation in Thai eyes however, not all foreigners are alleged rapists and not all Thai's are beyond reproach.

Post by **jetdoc** » February 13, 2007, 7:28 pm

I somewhat agree Astana, but the reality is people like Bill O'Riley that give Thailand a bad name.

Post by **skipvice** » February 13, 2007, 11:01 pm

jetdoc wrote:I somewhat agree Astana, but the reality is people like Bill O'Riley that give Thailand a bad name.

???? what dose he have to do with a German raping a minor, thats kinda far feched.

Post by **hxjohn** » February 14, 2007, 3:26 am

Bill O'Riley fox news i used to watch fox news but like many dropped it from my viewing list
no wonder that most of the usa is total ignorent of the rest of the world
programs like the factor that tell you they give you both sides of the story are total b/s they just promote ignorance
although after the last few years the climate in world news seem to be more open
stick to the bbc it.s the best of a bad bunch

Post by **skipvice** » February 14, 2007, 3:56 am

that may be true, but I still do not see what that has to do with a German raping a minor.

Post by **hxjohn** » February 14, 2007, 4:45 am

skipvice wrote:that may be true, but I still do not see what that has to do with a German raping a minor.

nothing at all just makeing a comment about fox news
sorry if of subject

ps hope they lock him up like the guy last year caught at sirigrand hotel udon with very young girl
after he dident pay the mother of the girl a large bribe she got round to calling the police

Post by **jetdoc** » February 14, 2007, 10:52 am

skipvice,
Maybe I can help a little bit. The Germans arrest speaks to the larger problem of ***'s. During the John Mark C. debacle, fox aired snippets of O'Riely's documentary on the Thai sex trade that was done some years earlier. O'Riely followed with the statement that "Thailand is the absolute worst" as it relates to child sex abuse. Sorry for assuming a large number of people would be aware of this event.

Post by **Astana** » February 14, 2007, 12:41 pm

Subjects like this are highly emotive, it always hits a nerve but nevertheless a certain minority of mainly men seem to believe that the abuse of young children is somehow legitimized in far from home places like Thailand (our latest **** coming from Europe), be that as it may.

The media by contrast and the Fox channel being a case in point provide a jaundiced view of the problem and instead of providing a hard hitting factual depiction of the situation, tend to amplify it and sesationalize it to the degree that reality is obscured.

My point being that obscuration tends to play a part in the cycle of abuse and that we as observers never seem to receive the full picture, as we cannot discern if this offender's pattern of abuse started in Thailand or is a legacy of his life in Europe and the possibility of his participation in abuse of children there. It is further obscured by the fact that he is at present only facing charges and has not been found guilty of anything yet.

A two cents worth.

Post by **Doc** » February 14, 2007, 12:54 pm

I would suspect that this is a bahaviorial problem that began before he arrived in Thailand. The difference is that here in Thailand it is easier for an individual to engage in this type of behavior than it is in, for example Germany. The reason being is that the poverty of Thailand makes young girls or boys easier to prey upon when offered money or other trinkets.

He makes the third falang busted for this type of behavior here in Udon in the last few weeks.

Post by **jetdoc** » February 14, 2007, 1:15 pm

" The reason being is that the poverty of Thailand makes young girls or boys easier to prey upon when offered money or other trinkets."

This is true, and the predators should prosecuted to the fullest, and in those cases where the parents have betrayed the child, they should receive equal punishment. IMHO

Post by **Doc** » February 14, 2007, 2:30 pm

jetdoc wrote:"This is true, and the predators should prosecuted to the fullest, and in those cases where the parents have betrayed the child, they should receive equal punishment. IMHO

Interesting statement - but one that is at odds with Thai culture.

I know a Thai family that just built a new house out in a village. They got their money by pimping their 14 year old daughter to some falang in Bangkok and then sued him.

Here in Thailand, any "harm" to another person can be easily rectified by make a cash payment to the family - be it for a sex matter, murder or even a death in an auto accident.

Unfortunately - unless you are the individual that has done wrong and can afford the price to rectify the situation - things are not going to change. As we have said time and time again - TIT - This Is Thailand.

I suppose that what needs to be debated at this point is whether the Thai Culture is all that off base. Sure, it is contradictory to Western Standards - but then again - putting people in prison does nothing for the victims, other than giving them some intangible satisfaction that the perpetrator is suffering. Prison certainly isn't a deterrent for a large number of predators.

It should be noted - for the sake of discussion as well - that the young girls here can also be predators. It certainly is not uncommon for high school girls to be soliciting both Thais and falangs for sex in exchange for money or more.

Ultimately, it certainly is not a black and white issue or situation.

Post by **Mainer** » February 14, 2007, 8:13 pm

In this case it seems very "black and white". She is 12 !! Unless the 64 year old German is a complete moron, he knows better.

Post by **izzix** » February 15, 2007, 1:53 am

Helmut Nils has been charged with the rape of a girl under 13 years of age.

Police were alerted by an anonymous tip reporting screams and that Helmut was abusing a young girl in his home.

When police raided the house in Udon Thani, they found that a 12 year old girl in the 5th grade had been living there with the 64 year old Helmut Nils.

A search of the house turned up many pornographic materials, including self-made videos involving the girl and himself.

During the police investigation it was learned that the girl had been entrusted by her mother to a neighbor's care early last year. Initially, the mother was sending monetary support to the woman but that stopped shortly. The woman who was entrusted with the girl's care was approached by Helmut last year and he offered to provide support to the woman in exchange for the girl performing housekeeping chores in his house on the weekends, which then progressed to a live-in status 5 months ago.

When questioned, the girl reported soon after she began staying at Helmut's house, he showed her pornographic videos and then he propositioned her. When she refused, he raped her and gave her 300 baht. Over the course of the last 5 months, he repeatedly raped her countless times. She stayed out of fear and didn't inform anyone because of his threats to her not to do so. She felt she had no one to turn to and no where else to go.

Upon questioning by police, Helmut revealed that he has been coming to Thailand for over 15 years and that he has been married and divorced on 4 different occasions to 15 year old girls. He explained that 15 is the minimum legal age to marry in Thailand, although he actually preferred girls that were between the ages of 11 and 15.

- translation of Thai Rath newspaper article

Post by **banpaeng** » February 15, 2007, 2:10 am

one really sicko dude.

Hope he is in the monkey house wih gorillas that like sick old men. Still would be too good for him.

Post by **ttom** » February 15, 2007, 4:08 am

Thank you for the translation.

Its truly time that Helmut Nils is starting to lear a right lesson. How many kids did he rape before?

This kind of s..t need to be stopped the hard way only - otherwise there is not hold and no child is safe anymore.

Post by **jackspratt** » February 15, 2007, 10:32 am

My TGF tells me the Thai news says the fiend has topped himself - the method varies according to which source you read. Slit wrists, slit veins, suffocation, or a combiation of any of these.

Won't be sorely missed.

German ****/rapist arrested

German ****/rapist arrested

Re: German ****/rapist arrested

10 years are not enough

Bill O'Riley dumb ass

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Lesson for a life time