Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

[AlexO]

The author of this article seems to have it right. Hamas is a terrorist, not a resistance, organisation.

Mike Fegelman: Just like the Nazis, Hamas cannot be appeased — it must be defeated

Unsurprising point of view from the Jewish Executive Director of an Israeli media advocacy group.

He points to some obvious problems about Hamas as a terrorist group, and its chief supporter, Iran.

Very light on criticism of the IDF carnage in Gaza, and future solutions however.

Fail to see your point Pratty. Never see Hamas saying the slaughter of innocents on Oct 7 was unjustifiable.

Never see Hamas saying the continued holding of civilian hostages is wrong. Never see the execution of hostages is wrong. Need I go on or do we just get the usual "Oh Dear".

[jackspratt]

I guess it is very frustrating for you, Alex, that I don't dance to your tune, while pointing out some of the irrational nonsense you post on these threads.

I have stated previously what bastards Hamas are - but that escapes what seems to be your very short, clouded by red mist, attention span.

Now, any thoughts on why the IDF is using 500kg bombs in a tent city which is a designated humanitarian "safe zone"?

[tamada]

Now, any thoughts on why the IDF is using 500kg bombs in a tent city which is a designated humanitarian "safe zone"?

The bigger the bomb, the more fatalities?

Like every other "humanitarian safe zone" that's ever been conjured up, your "tent city" is chock full of Hamas terrorists.

Now, where's my prize?

[tamada]

Six UNRWA workers among estimated 14 killed in Israeli strike on Gaza school sheltering displaced

The UN Palestinian refugee agency said the attack on Nuseirat led to the highest death toll among its staff in a single incident.

I believe this is the fifth time the IDF have targeted this school because Hamas keep using it as a base – claims denied by Hamas.

[Whistler]

After most wars you set up an occupying force. This was done in Japan, Germany and Italy. In more recent times, Australia did this in East Timor. I am sure if Israel asked for UN help they would get it. A UN presence would give great legitimisation to that exercise. A police force that managed enforcement. Big rewards for pointing out Hamas operatives. Something along those lines.

[noosard]

UN policing of countries hasn't worked too well since WW2
And both Germany and japan were smashed

[tamada]

After most wars you set up an occupying force. This was done in Japan, Germany and Italy. In more recent times, Australia did this in East Timor. I am sure if Israel asked for UN help they would get it. A UN presence would give great legitimisation to that exercise. A police force that managed enforcement. Big rewards for pointing out Hamas operatives. Something along those lines.

https://peacekeeping.un.org/en/mission/undof

[AlexO]

And on it goes.... with neither side seemingly interested in peace.

Israeli air strikes leave craters in Gazan tent camp as dozens dead and injured

At least 40 people have died after a tent camp in Khan Younis was struck by Israeli fire, leaving craters as deep as 9 metres, according to the Gazan civil emergency service.

The camp is in the designated humanitarian "safe zone" for Palestinians to evacuate to during Israel's invasion of the territory.

The Israeli military said it was targeting a Hamas command centre, with women and children among those injured.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-09-10/ ... /104331106

Another one of those ubiquitous "command centres".

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Have just re-looked at this photo and enlarged it as well. That crater is not new, its an old crater showing signs of rain water tracks all around and general filth and waste being dumped into it. Just goes to show how pathetic the propaganda machine is and the people who actually believe the garbage spouted are.
Pratty
Feel free to look and give us your normal well thought out responses.

[jackspratt]

Have just re-looked at this photo and enlarged it as well. That crater is not new, its an old crater showing signs of rain water tracks all around and general filth and waste being dumped into it.

But it can't be old, Alex, because you told us only 2 days ago that the IDF hasn't used bombs of this size before in Gaza - remember?

[AlexO]

WTF are you talking about Pratt, I was responding to your usual garbage about the IDF carrying out Genocide by quoting a new load of tripe from the Gaza Health Ministry, Remember? 9m craters in a safe zone. I took the time (which you obviously never do before parroting Hamas propaganda) to actually look at the 'false' evidence.
Stop acting like a pathetic wee student, grow up and do some research before your next repeat of Hamas rubbish after all there are many independent agencies who are now quoting as fact their researched findings.

[tamada]

HAMAS Command Centre

Hamas Command Centre.jpg

No, no, THIS is a Hamas command center.
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Now try and pay attention.

[AlexO]

RUOK Alex?

Eh, verified by who? A 9M crater needs about a 500kg bomb. That will be the first in the long war on terrorism waged by Israel. Why are Israel just starting to use these munitions now. Hamas losing the propaganda war? Far smaller more accurate munitions in the Israeli arsenal.

I also reckon your forensics skills suck.

Had the audacity to question your slavish followings of the Hamas propaganda machine
So how you come to that opinion(reckon your forensics skills suck). Are you the expert on all you survey? Will this be another deflection or 'not my job' to prove I am accurate/wrong moment. You just cannot help yourself Pratty can you

[jackspratt]

So how you come to that opinion(reckon your forensics skills suck). Are you the expert on all you survey?

Not at all.

But I do have a good nose for smelling nonsense.

[AlexO]

Just take the Hamas flag from your eyes for once. Brand new bomb craters dont tend to have undamaged refuse in their centers. Dont tend to have water run off marks etc.
Another Hamas falsehood only designed to be believed by supporters or the seriously stupid.

[jackspratt]

Feel free to live in your own la-la land Alex, and maintain that strong belief in your own forensic skills.

You may be the only person in the world who has twigged.

Dunning-Kruger writ large.

Meanwhile, I will continue to believe what credible sources say:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/10/worl ... bombs.html
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-ea ... 024-09-09/
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news ... 96130c0392

If you read the reports carefully, you may note that the IDF readily acknowledges the bombing, and their "justification" for it.

Seriously stupid - I think you are projecting.

[AlexO]

Are those news outlets on the ground in Gaza Pratty or just like you they depend on The Gaza Health Ministry for their factual information?

[Udon Map]

Meanwhile, I will continue to believe what credible sources say . . . .

The problem is that the only individual news reporters allowed in by Hamas are those who agree to, and actually do, play by Hamas' rules, namely reporting what Hamas wants them to report. I don't believe that there are any totally independent reporters in Gaza.

[jackspratt]

Meanwhile, I will continue to believe what credible sources say . . . .

The problem is that the only individual news reporters allowed in by Hamas are those who agree to, and actually do, play by Hamas' rules, namely reporting what Hamas wants them to report. I don't believe that there are any totally independent reporters in Gaza.

You may well be right - a confirming link would be welcomed.

In this particular bombing of a "safe zone" because of the presence of yet another "command centre", the IDF (along with numerous news sources) seems to have confirmed that it happened - an inconvenient fact that apparently has slipped the attention of CSI Alex.

[AlexO]

[Redacted]

Asking UM for a factual link just shows your absolute ignorance of the reality of Gaza.

[jackspratt]

The problem is that the only individual news reporters allowed in by Hamas are those who agree to, and actually do, play by Hamas' rules, namely reporting what Hamas wants them to report. I don't believe that there are any totally independent reporters in Gaza.

Seems that Hamas is not the only barrier to independent reporting.

https://archive.ph/Vwz0z

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/analysis/expla ... ar/3227314