What can one believe nowadays

[Doodoo]

Who do you believe nowadays? No one, anything, can you believe.
In this example they advertised via You Tube to the world and it worked

How Israel's Mossad tricked Hezbollah into buying explosive pagers | 60 Minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLUUUZWjfGk

[FrazeeDK]

you can bet those two masked and voice altered sources had the full approval of Mossad to make those disclosures... Mossad pulled a good one on Hezbollah. But, I've got to wonder, in formulating the plan what were the projected "triggers" to initiate the pager and radio blasts.. Certainly it must have been part of a detailed contingency plan. Would it all have occurred if the October 7th massacres hadn't taken place? That Hamas attack let Israel completely take off the kid gloves and pummel Hamas and Hezbollah into militarily ineffective organizations..

[tamada]

you can bet those two masked and voice altered sources had the full approval of Mossad to make those disclosures... Mossad pulled a good one on Hezbollah. But, I've got to wonder, in formulating the plan what were the projected "triggers" to initiate the pager and radio blasts.. Certainly it must have been part of a detailed contingency plan. Would it all have occurred if the October 7th massacres hadn't taken place? That Hamas attack let Israel completely take off the kid gloves and pummel Hamas and Hezbollah into militarily ineffective organizations..

Earlier opinions suggested that Hezbollah were beginning to get suspicious of these devices. The pager detonations weren't linked to anything specific or operational but was probably a "use it or lose it" decision? The walkie talkie detonations the following day claimed fewer victims which, if the explosives were integral to the battery packs as these guys suggested, and had been planted in those devices as long as ten years ago, the original, explosive carrying batteries may have already been replaced with newer, unmodified ones.

But you raise a valid point that outside of Israel's retaliation for the October 7th massacre, they may have never been used. I can't see any scenario in the fraught status quo that existed before that event, where the detonations would have been seen as defensive or in any way acceptable. But the damage it wrought on Iran's confidence in their communications security and that of their proxies, was probably worth it.

[FrazeeDK]

as for the topic of what you can believe these days... well, I try to get my information from a wide variety of sources so I can look at one and say, "aha.. look at the facts that are missing.." or at another and determine that context is missing.. With the very short news cycle, the media of al types tries to push out news as quickly as possible. That leads to factless out of context, guessing in many cases.. So, be patient, look with a jaundiced eye at nearly everything, and put it all into your mental food processor to have a more complete picture of things.

[tamada]

Almost four years ago, when covid was the overriding issue of the day, I bought a new android phone while in the UK. The migration from the previous, five-year's of use device was fast. Being about three or four versions of android ahead of the old phone, Google came with some newer features and settings, one of which was a configurable feed of news based on your "interests". I chose to not share my interests with Google but, after avoiding this, the default setting meant that Google-sourced news and "interesting" feeds were based on your browsing history, or more of the same. Great! I now had a hand-held, 4G affirmation echo chamber that could take pictures!

So, the next step was to dig around and disable anything that allowed Google to try and get me to "read this". Now my phone has a blank desktop when I open the default browser. If I need to find something to read, I need to pull MY finger out and go looking for myself. Sometimes I browse some of the nine mainstream media apps I have installed, but find I use these less even than before when I'm not being directed to them by what Google's algorithms thinks I want to read.

I'm not claiming this guarantees me more honest or truthful news and opinion, it doesn't. However, I believe it does avoid the risk of only being fed more things, and opinions that you like, believe or have interests in. The handy, time-saving 'shortcuts' that Google benignly installs to make your digital life easier actually makes you lazy. Your screen has ready-made links to stuff to read so you click it first. A time-saver that can also blinker you from the bigger picture or an alternative viewpoint.

I've never had an apple device so how much does an iPhone try and control what you see, read and think?

[tamada]

Who owns TikTok?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/johntamny/ ... can-owned/

[Doodoo]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2015510985623607

[Sport]

Sky News.

[jackspratt]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/2015510985623607

C'mon Dd - how do we know that is not AI fake?

[jackspratt]

Sky News.

Seems to be pretty reliable and credible https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sky-news/, unlike its chiit cousin in Australia https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/sky-news-australia/ .

[Doodoo]

"C'mon Dd - how do we know that is not AI fake? "

How do I know that you are posting this comment? I dont, therefore I dont care

[jackspratt]

How do I know that you are posting this comment? I dont, therefore I dont care

I can't believe you wrote that, Dd.

[tamada]

How do I know that you are posting this comment? I dont, therefore I dont care

I can't believe you wrote that, Dd.

When you consider that Doodoo posted a link to a FB article without making any comments or a personal opinion, it does seem to me that he really "don't care" much about anything.

Except maybe hydrogen as an alternative energy source?

And SAYINGS .

And Words and their Definitions.

Maybe?

[Doodoo]

"When you consider that Doodoo posted a link to a FB article without making any comments or a personal opinion, it does seem to me that he really "don't care" much about anything.

Except maybe hydrogen as an alternative energy source?

And SAYINGS .

And Words and their Definitions.

Maybe?"

I post so you have something to bitch and complain about.
Just fueling the fire
If it wasnt for me what would you have to complain about?

[Laan Yaa Mo]

"When you consider that Doodoo posted a link to a FB article without making any comments or a personal opinion, it does seem to me that he really "don't care" much about anything.

Except maybe hydrogen as an alternative energy source?

And SAYINGS .

And Words and their Definitions.

Maybe?"

I post so you have something to bitch and complain about.
Just fueling the fire
If it wasnt for me what would you have to complain about?

It's really fantastic and a pleasure that there is a member on this forum who understands his purpose in life and does his darndest to fulfill that destiny with so much enthusiasm and insight. Thank you Doodoo the Magnificent.

Surely, this will help in the ego department.