Former US President Trump shot and alive.

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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Laan Yaa Mo » July 21, 2024, 8:50 am

The U.S. Constitution states that the country is a Federal Republic and does not mention democracy. Everyone knows that, or should.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by AlexO » July 21, 2024, 8:53 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
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The U.S. Constitution states that the country is a Federal Republic and does not mention democracy.
Okay, explain the difference, please.

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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Declan MacPherson » July 21, 2024, 9:02 am

Laan Yaa Mo wrote:
July 21, 2024, 8:50 am
The U.S. Constitution states that the country is a Federal Republic and does not mention democracy. Everyone knows that, or should.
Exactly correct.

Pure democracy is mob rule no matter the law.

In a constitutional republic, the rule of law is supreme.

For those who want detailed information, GIYF.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by AlexO » July 21, 2024, 9:14 am

So someone makes a law and everyone must obey on pain off?. Sounds a bit like Communism to me.

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Post by Declan MacPherson » July 21, 2024, 9:38 am

I don't think any singular "someone" makes a law in the United States.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by AlexO » July 21, 2024, 9:44 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
July 21, 2024, 9:38 am
I don't think any singular "someone" makes a law in the United States.
So there is a choise, no singular makes the decisions so a bit of a democracy yes/no?

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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Declan MacPherson » July 21, 2024, 9:50 am

I think you need to go do some research.

You are trying to conflate pure democracy with voting that takes place in the United States, and it's not the same.

Good luck in your research.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Whistler » July 21, 2024, 11:07 am

Correct Declan

The collegiate voting in the USA is very similar to the General Assemblies to confirm leaders of the CCP and the Russian Communist state
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by AlexO » July 21, 2024, 11:11 am

So what system do you have in the USA, Fascism, Communism or just a watered down version of my gun is bigger than yours?

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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Whistler » July 21, 2024, 12:10 pm

Alex, trying to think how people's views were in 1770 through to when the constitution was actually framed in 1787, even then a lot of delegates refused to sign the document.

First of all they apparently wanted Washington to be m0narch, he refused. There were no other Republics to use as a base model, so they started of with a stack of disparate ideals.

There were no trains, Americans travelled up and down the East coast by ship, foot or horsy things. They were under threat from Britain. Snail mail the only form of correspondence. Ball firing muskets the only weapon for personal protection. No police, minimal eduction for many. People still believed in witches and evil spirits.

Voting for government almost unknown in the world and certainly not universal sufferage.

All in all the constitution was not too bad for those times, in fact it was incredibly good for those times, but to claim original intention as an almost religious thought 250 years later is plain nuts.

Those that framed the Australian constition about 110 years later used it as a guide, they extracted the good parts, slimmed it down enormously and dumped the dumb parts. The US voting system was one of the parts dumped.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by AlexO » July 21, 2024, 5:03 pm

No police, minimal education for many. People still believed in witches and evil spirits.

So apart from the huge numbers of 'ENFORCERS' nothing has really changed.

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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Declan MacPherson » July 22, 2024, 6:44 am

Just more proof that ignorance is curable and contempt is not.

Contempt for the United States, the US Constitution and contempt toward Americans who embrace and seek to follow the US Constitution, is why so many are reluctant to be foolish enough to try to explain it all to those with their phony inquisitiveness.

It always ends the same way -- to be rebuffed with nonsense. It is possible for Ernest T. Bass to live within many.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by tamada » July 22, 2024, 6:57 am

Contempt for certain Americans who would manipulate the US Constitution to their own ends.

Contempt for those that can't see it, not so much.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Declan MacPherson » July 22, 2024, 7:04 am

Like I said. Ernest T. Bass lives within many.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by tamada » July 22, 2024, 7:15 am

Declan MacPherson wrote:
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Like I said. Ernest T. Bass lives within many.
Insert flogging dead horse meme [here]
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Declan MacPherson » July 22, 2024, 7:27 am

Each time the contempt rises, Ernest T. Bass lives.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Whistler » July 22, 2024, 12:36 pm

If your view of the world revolves around Ernest, then you have zero chance of understanding anything more complex than a clothes peg.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Declan MacPherson » July 22, 2024, 12:54 pm

Whistler wrote:
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If your view of the world revolves around Ernest, then you have zero chance of understanding anything more complex than a clothes peg.
You know that's not true. You know from reading my posts that I understand quite a bit -- and it's quite a bit more than you have the capacity to understand about the United States and the US Constitution.

Besides, it was you who reminded me of Ernest; and every time you post like this, I'm reminded of Ernest yet again.

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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Whistler » July 22, 2024, 3:06 pm

Your posts Declan, illustrate your views as a right wing, American. Nothing you have posted shows an insight beyond that narrow focus, several of your posts are factually incorrect to boot.

I have lived in the USA for several years, sometimes the view of an outsider is more accurate than that of a native, as those those views are not clouded by xenophobia.
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Re: Former US President Trump shot and alive.

Post by Declan MacPherson » July 22, 2024, 3:11 pm

Whistler wrote:
July 22, 2024, 3:06 pm
Your posts Declan, illustrate your views as a right wing, American. Nothing you have posted shows an insight beyond that narrow focus, several of your posts are factually incorrect to boot.
I'm dead center American adhering to the core principles of the Founders and Framers: those include defending the Constitution, Free Enterprise and Individual Liberty.

Which posts are incorrect or clouded in xenophobia in your contemptable opinion? I'll wait.

I don't care where you've lived or anything personal about you. I just hope you Live Your Best Life.
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