Israel under attack from hamas, war declared.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

You have never hidden your support for the action by the Palestinians (and by extension Hamas). Stop trying to convince yourself/or others that your not the worst kind of anti-Jew racist trying to hide behind weasel words.

Using your logic, I guess that makes you an anti-Arab racist. You keep labelling jackspratt an anti-Jew racist, but you have yet to produce any evidence to back up your claim. Enough already.

[Udon Map]

Palestinians have justifiable aspirations to a homeland in the Levant, which I certainly support.

Even assuming that this is true (and about which we could have a separate conversation), the Palestinians have been offered a two state solution repeatedly, and, each time, have declined, opting instead for an all-or-nothing approach. I, too, support a two state solution, but it has to come with an end to all attacks on Israel.

1919: Arabs of Palestine refused to nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.

1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.

1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.

1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.

1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.

1946: Anglo-American Commission proposal, rejected by the Arabs of Palestine.

1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab Committee for Palestine/.

1949: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected by the Arab League and the Higher Arab committee for Palestine.

1967: Israel's outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected by the Arab League and the PLO.

1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt) by the rest of the Arab world, including the PLO.

1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt and Jordan).

1995: Rabin's Contour-for-Peace, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.

2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected by Yasser Arafat, who then initiated the pre-planned second intifada.

2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.

2005: Sharon's peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected by the Hamas takeover in 2007.

2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected by Mahmoud Abbas.

2014: Kerry's Contour-for-Peace, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.

2018: Trump’s “deal of the Century”, rejected in advance by Mahmoud Abbas.

2019: US Conference on Economic Benefit for the Palestinians, rejected by the Palestinian Authority.

2020: PA reiterates rejection of Trump’s “Deal of the Century” before it’s even presented.

2020: Palestinian rejection of the normalization agreement between the UAE and Israel.

2020: Palestinian objections to Serbia and Kosovo moving their embassies from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem.

[Whistler]

Spot on Paul.

No wonder Israel reacts the way they do, brutal but understandable

[AlexO]

You have never hidden your support for the action by the Palestinians (and by extension Hamas). Stop trying to convince yourself/or others that your not the worst kind of anti-Jew racist trying to hide behind weasel words.

Using your logic, I guess that makes you an anti-Arab racist. You keep labelling jackspratt an anti-Jew racist, but you have yet to produce any evidence to back up your claim. Enough already.

What is race? . : a group of people sharing a common cultural, geographical, linguistic, or religious origin or background.
If you can find one positive statement from Pratty about Israel or Jewish people I will leave him alone, but he does not even understand the term racist.
I will admit to being a total anti-terrorist racist. Enough for you?

[jackspratt]

You keep labelling jackspratt an anti-Jew racist, but you have yet to produce any evidence to back up your claim.

That will prove an impossible task for our Scottish (is that a race) nipper, mainly because, like the Al-Sharif command centre, and the hospital based rocket launching pads, there isn't any.

[AlexO]

You keep labelling jackspratt an anti-Jew racist, but you have yet to produce any evidence to back up your claim.

That will prove an impossible task for our Scottish (is that a race) nipper, mainly because, like the Al-Sharif command centre, and the hospital based rocket launching pads, there isn't any.

Keep digging your wee hole Pratty.
You dont understand what racism is and you dont have the intellect to know what a military command center is.
Continue smoking your happy weed, it helps the fantasies.
I would remind you that you boasted having Scottish ancestral blood, unfortunately, that's obviously been lost in your breeding cycle.

[jackspratt]

Oh! look - a real command centre, and it isn't under the Al-Sharif hospital. In fact, it is at Palestine Square, more than 1km away, as the crow (or tunnel) flies.

https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-says-top-l ... 25588.html

Strangely enough, unlike Al-Sharif, the IDF is claiming this as an actual command centre.

Perhaps they lack the intellect to know the difference.

[tamada]

Oh! look - a real command centre, and it isn't under the Al-Sharif hospital. In fact, it is at Palestine Square, more than 1km away, as the crow (or tunnel) flies.

https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-says-top-l ... 25588.html

Strangely enough, unlike Al-Sharif, the IDF is claiming this as an actual command centre.

Perhaps they lack the intellect to know the difference.

"...the tunnels stretched across Gaza and into major hospitals..."

Yes, I am aware that that is an as-yet unsubstantiated claim by an IDF spokesman, but you can press on and tell us where you gained your 'intellect' and experience of fighting Hamas and their infrastructure.

[jackspratt]

A 1km+ long command centre - now that IS a stretch.

[AlexO]

Oh! look - a real command centre, and it isn't under the Al-Sharif hospital. In fact, it is at Palestine Square, more than 1km away, as the crow (or tunnel) flies.

https://news.yahoo.com/hamas-says-top-l ... 25588.html

Strangely enough, unlike Al-Sharif, the IDF is claiming this as an actual command centre.

Perhaps they lack the intellect to know the difference.

The army’s chief spokesman, Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari, said the army had located a vast underground complex. “They all used this infrastructure routinely, during emergencies and also at the beginning of the war on Oct. 7,” he said. He said the tunnels stretched across Gaza and into major hospitals.

Pratty
I honestly cannot believe that you are so intellectually challenged or believe the rest of the members are, that you don't, or will not confirm knowing the differences between sizes of command centers. (already explained) Command centers vary in size depending on the number of in this case, 'terrorists' under direct command. a 15 man. (number of abandoned weapons in the underground bunker at Al-Sharif) would indicate a CC in direct charge of approximately 500 'hero terrorists'. That figure is based on western style Command Centers numbers. Smaller CC's (6-8) based on company sized units (120 men) down to a vehicle mounted CC's (3-4) probably in charge of 40/30 fighting men happen everywhere. Perhaps if you read up some facts rather than Hamas propaganda you would begin to understand what you are talking about. Same as rascist dear chap.

[jackspratt]

Thanks Alex - I'll send your informative paragraph off to The Economist, and IDF HQ, as clearly they are similarly intellectually challenged, and don't have the same expertise as you.

In the meantime, as suggested by Laan Yaa Mo, it is time for you to put up, or shut up, on the "racist" (or rascist) crap.

[AlexO]

Show us one positive in all the vicious crap you spout about Israel having no right to exist or how terrible they have been to dare keep lands that they have won from attacking Nations to ensure they have more buffer zones from attacks that are bent on the annihilation of Israel. You must be really happy, you seem to have a supporter, please convince me and him by factual information that you are not a racist anti-Jew.
PS
Why would you write to the Economist, do they know, or are they military experts or just another headline seeking rag. Why not just read non propaganda military strategy documentation.

[jackspratt]

Show us one positive in all the vicious crap you spout about Israel having no right to exist or how terrible they have been to dare keep lands that they have won from attacking Nations to ensure they have more buffer zones from attacks that are bent on the annihilation of Israel.

More lies from you Alex.

You must be really happy, you seem to have a supporter, please convince me and him by factual information that you are not a racist anti-Jew.

So you are asking me to prove a negative. Speaks a lot to your intelligence.

In the meantime:

by jackspratt » December 21, 2023, 10:17 pm
.... as suggested by Laan Yaa Mo, it is time for you to put up, or shut up, on the "racist" (or rascist) crap.

[rick]

Death toll 20,000 and rising, 99% to go. Does not include those under the rubble. Still a long way to go to outdo Bomber Harris, that worked in Germany didn't it?

[tamada]

Hamas's leader arrives in Egypt to lay down the terms for a permanent cease fire that includes the release of senior Hamas terrorists jailed in Israel.

Israel should press for total capitulation. If that seems unacceptable to Biden and the UN, they should press on with the extermination of Ismail Haniyeh, Saleh al-Arouri, Yahya Sinwar and Mohammed Deif. Cut the head off the snake.

[AlexO]

Show us one positive in all the vicious crap you spout about Israel having no right to exist or how terrible they have been to dare keep lands that they have won from attacking Nations to ensure they have more buffer zones from attacks that are bent on the annihilation of Israel.

More lies from you Alex.

You must be really happy, you seem to have a supporter, please convince me and him by factual information that you are not a racist anti-Jew.

So you are asking me to prove a negative. Speaks a lot to your intelligence.

In the meantime:

by jackspratt » December 21, 2023, 10:17 pm
.... as suggested by Laan Yaa Mo, it is time for you to put up, or shut up, on the "racist" (or rascist) crap.

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Pathetic, really pathetic.
Asked to show one, just one positive and again a failure. Constant denial, while preaching hate. By written evidence from you just prove I am wrong.

[jackspratt]

You prove yourself wrong, time after time after time.

Put up, or shut up, Alex.

[jackspratt]

Israel should press for total capitulation. If that seems unacceptable to Biden and the UN, they should press on with the extermination of Ismail Haniyeh, Saleh al-Arouri, Yahya Sinwar and Mohammed Deif. Cut the head off the snake.

Well that's worked well up to now, hasn't it.

What did Einstein say again .......

[Udon Map]

Israel should press for total capitulation. If that seems unacceptable to Biden and the UN, they should press on with the extermination of Ismail Haniyeh, Saleh al-Arouri, Yahya Sinwar and Mohammed Deif. Cut the head off the snake.

Well that's worked well up to now, hasn't it.

You mean in the 2½ months since this started? Sometimes wars last for years. Hamas continues to fire rockets at Israeli cities every day. What would you suggest that Israel do?

[jackspratt]

You mean in the 2½ months since this started?

No, if I meant that, I would have said that.