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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by Potamoi » December 3, 2024, 1:41 pm

US presidential pardons have always been a strange power given by the founding fathers very much akin to a Royal pardon loosely inherited from the British oppressors back then. I suppose there were a few things the US modeled the constitutional details after when creating the first real constitutional federal republic and representative democracy.

In itself, it is not that surprising since Carter pardoned his brother, Clinton pardoned his brother, hell Ford even pardoned Nixon. Trump pardoned his son-in-law's father too in the first term. These pardon's are in the news for a cycle or two then forgotten generally. Note that Biden jumped on AirForce One with his press secretary in hopes of getting away from the Whitehouse press core for a few days.

The thing that smacks of wrongdoing is the smug way Biden and his press secretary said emphatically and with great disdain to reporters when asked that this would MOST CERTAINLY NOT happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0JHNDzprDI

I suppose the holier than thou attitude needs a little humility thrown in the mix now.

If you want to see some really funny hypocrisy on the democrat side, watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/cuxkTRPgZJE



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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by Doodoo » December 3, 2024, 1:52 pm

"The president of the United States is authorized by the U.S. Constitution to grant a pardon for a federal crime. The other forms of the clemency power of the president are commutation of sentence, remission of fine or restitution, and reprieve. A person may decide not to accept a pardon, in which case it does not take effect, according to a Supreme Court majority opinion in Burdick v. United States. In 2021, the 10th Circuit ruled that acceptance of a pardon does not constitute a legal confession of guilt, recognizing the Supreme Court's earlier language as authoritative.

Under the Constitution, the president's clemency power extends to all federal criminal offenses, except in cases of impeachment. All requests for executive clemency for federal offenses are normally directed to the Office of the Pardon Attorney in the U.S. Department of Justice for investigation and review, but the president may bypass that office."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_p ... ted_States

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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by pipoz4444 » December 3, 2024, 6:01 pm

Drunk Monkey wrote:
November 28, 2024, 9:10 pm
i wish the UM Trump haters would give the guy a chance .. the American people have spoken so lets try and be positive, its not like theres a 2.5 million signature petition for pushing for another election as in some other places.

DT and his fantastic appointments may well MAGA

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Lets face it DM, the Trump hatters lost and they have no idea how to handle it, nor do they have any comprehension of why they lost.

The vast majority of the so called Political Experts on this forum, many of who are not even from the USA, who vehemently forecast the prophecy of a Biden-Harris and then a sure Harris-Walz landslide outcome, for the next four years, now have to face the reality or a Trump-Vance for 4 years followed by a GOP X-Y for another 8 years after that, thanks in part to the latest JB-Hunter pardon.

If I were Trump, I would seriously consider pardoning all Republicans jailed in the past four years during the Biden-Harris era and then ask the AG and State prosecutors to look closely into the Pelosi - Biden families and relook at Hillary for good measure.

I suspect their are other ghosts and other crimes in the Biden family closet and I don't think Joe can pardon all of them, as the list may be too long for Joe to remember. Even Hunter must have violated some State laws.

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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by jackspratt » December 3, 2024, 8:35 pm

pipoz4444 wrote:
December 3, 2024, 6:01 pm

Lets face it DM, the Trump hatters lost ......
Actually, the Trump hatters won. ;)
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Post by Drunk Monkey » December 3, 2024, 9:50 pm

MELTDOWN in USA lefty Demo media letsnot take it to UM Jack... we are thankfully miles away so lets PLEASE relax your bias and hatred of DT for a while ..lets see how things pan out ,, i hope your political liberalism may offer at least ahalf decent explanation as to Joey"s pardon ..or was that DTS FAULT??

This just proves the Biden family are as bend as fook.

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Post by jackspratt » December 3, 2024, 10:04 pm

I don't actually hate Trump - to use the Australian vernacular, I just reckon (based on plenty of evidence) that he is a grub of a human being.

And based on that, I never cease to amaze how he was elected in 16, but more so this year.

Did you read Pots's insightful post above?

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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 3, 2024, 10:36 pm

jackspratt wrote:
December 3, 2024, 10:04 pm
I don't actually hate Trump - to use the Australian vernacular, I just reckon (based on plenty of evidence) that he is a grub of a human being.

And based on that, I never cease to amaze how he was elected in 16, but more so this year.

Did you read Pots's insightful post above?
NO as just returnd home from a sortee into the Eastern Udoo favelas for a few beers aad happy me and my my tuck got home without any road rage hijacking or 7 11 stop.

back on topic PLEASE lets give Dt a chance .. his time may even offer hope for better diplomatic relations with Auzz Uk and even Bang Dung .. n fook Ban Dung needs help :lol:

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Re: U.S. Politics

Post by Drunk Monkey » December 3, 2024, 10:56 pm

Lets just take USA politics seriously for a moment guys PLEASE . ADDIDAS AD
I THINK ??
NOW THIS IS THE DOGS BOLLOCKS OF ALL SATIRE PISS TAKE VIDS ..

https://youtu.be/TbXZoMocpM8?t=10
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