The US's struggle against disinformation

[Declan MacPherson]

There is no such thing as "misinformation" or "disinformation." These are just another form of political correctness that is meant to silence speech.

There is only information. You were NOT born with a brain requiring you to believe everything you read, everything you hear or everything you see. You were born with a brain that allows you to process information and formulate opinions using discernment.

There is only INFORMATION.

The variables within the information you receive are accuracy or inaccuracy; truth or lies.

It is more dangerous to the public welfare to permit the government to suppress the truth in the name of suppressing misinformation than it is to let people be wrong on the Internet. A corrupt federal government and/or censorship by any one individual or group does far more damage. I don't even desire to be the person to make those censorship decisions.

I fully support ALL speech -- even that with which I disagree. It's how we identify antisemites and racists, the law-abiding and those with criminal intent, patriots and enemies, friends and foes.

[FrazeeDK]

trouble is, it takes a level of intellect and curiousity to delve into information to assess its level of truth, lack of context, or if it is complete BS. Too many are quick to fully believe a simple meme, be it the latest cat and dog eating Haitians in Springfield Ohio or out and out propaganda say from Russian sponsored RT.. Most news stories are shaded in one form or another. Being widely read assists in discerning such things.

[tamada]

And then along came Kellyanne Conway with her "alternative facts" and the Pandora's Box of Trumpism was dumped on a free-thinking world.

[tamada]

I have just watched JD Vance saying that the liberal invective of labeling certain people as being fascist is dangerous and must stop.

I guess he missed the debate where a certain conservative called someone a Marxist.

[Doodoo]

"There is no such thing as "misinformation" or "disinformation." These are just another form of political correctness that is meant to silence speech."

MISINFORMATION
"Misinformation is incorrect or misleading information. Misinformation can exist without specific malicious intent; disinformation is distinct in that it is deliberately deceptive and propagated. Misinformation can include inaccurate, incomplete, misleading, or false information as well as selective or half-truths."

DISINFORMATION
"Disinformation is the deliberate use of lies to manipulate people, whether to extract profit or to advance a political agenda"

[Declan MacPherson]

Challenge for all of you research hounds.

List the countries throughout history where state-controlled media -- deciding what was true and what was false -- was a good thing. This isn't about opinions. Show your work: specific, measurable and factual success with citations.

NOTE: Government control of Covid information was mostly false; and has shown to be inflated hyperbole.

PS - the fact that there are Leftist definitions of misinformation and disinformation does not make the use of them a good thing. The terms are used to silence truth, and there is evidence of that use.

[Doodoo]

"NOTE: Government control of Covid information was mostly false; and has shown to be inflated hyperbole."

Once gain we could be listening to Commander Donny, keep on telling them what they want to hear and they will believe it.
No one and I mean no one knows if media is BSing or not.

[Declan MacPherson]

No one and I mean no one knows if media is BSing or not.

Which is why no one should be silenced.

You failed the challenge.

[Doodoo]

You took one piece of what I posted and twisted it
Thanks Donny

[Declan MacPherson]

You took one piece of what I posted and twisted it

You are always free to clarify it. You chose not to do so.

[tamada]

Challenge for all of you research hounds.

List the countries throughout history where state-controlled media -- deciding what was true and what was false -- was a good thing. This isn't about opinions. Show your work: specific, measurable and factual success with citations.

NOTE: Government control of Covid information was mostly false; and has shown to be inflated hyperbole.


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PS - the fact that there are Leftist definitions of misinformation and disinformation does not make the use of them a good thing. The terms are used to silence truth, and there is evidence of that use.

Excellent to see that you've boned up on fascism. You'll be able to assimilate with Trump's new republic in a jiffy.

[Declan MacPherson]

Excellent to see that you've boned up on fascism. You'll be able to assimilate with Trump's new republic in a jiffy.

You also failed the challenge.

[anefarious1]

This challenge is hilarious considering this person supports a lunatic that labels news he doesn't like as "fake news". Someone who would, if he could, shut down news organizations who don't curry favor with him. Just a couple of weeks ago said ABC "ought to lose its license" because he got beat in a debate. But if he wins the election, suddenly Declan or whatever the name will support fascist suppression because MAGA!

[Declan MacPherson]

This challenge is hilarious considering this person supports a lunatic that labels news he doesn't like as "fake news". Someone who would, if he could, shut down news organizations who don't curry favor with him. Just a couple of weeks ago said ABC "ought to lose its license" because he got beat in a debate. But if he wins the election, suddenly Declan or whatever the name will support fascist suppression because MAGA!

You see, this is what free speech is all about.

Everyone was given an opportunity to state their case. Instead of providing information to support why they think government should control media and speech, they all came after me.

In this most recent case, the one posting pretends to think that I will support fascist oppression when I have no history of being in favor of such a thing. As for Leftist ideology, I never get into the weeds on the nuanced differences of fascism, Marxism, Nazism, socialism and communism. Suffice to say that they are all immoral, all authoritarian, all oppressive, all totalitarian and all Left. And I am against them all. ALL.

anefarious1 has also failed the challenge.

[Whistler]

Misinformation is a poor euphemism for a lie. Declan quotes the bible in his signature, curious, that he supports the devil now.

The snake did not lie to Eve, he just offered her a bit of misinformation, but according to Decan, this is fine and dandy.

So buddy, I don't agree with you, let's call a spade a spade. Anafurious did not lose the argument at all, Declan's logic is bizarre, there is no justification for people to be deceived by lies.

Declan speaks with a forked tongue just like that serpent that turned the garden of Eden into the garden of Evil.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Khun Whistler. can you answer his question or not? It's such an easy question, do you think government should control media and speech, or not? Just answer the question, there is no need to attack the individual who posed the question. Apparently, the mods say we can criticise content, but not the person who posted the message.- rules of the Map.

[jackspratt]

As for Leftist ideology, I never get into the weeds on the nuanced differences of fascism, Marxism, Nazism, socialism and communism.

Really?

Should I go back and find the posts where you were telling us that fascism is actually left-wing, and expounding on the reasons why?

From memory, that got pretty deep into the weeds ...... of absurdity.

[Declan MacPherson]

Declan speaks with a forked tongue just like that serpent that turned the garden of Eden into the garden of Evil.

The third time wasn't a charm. Whistler said he'd never respond to my posts again.

So much for that.

Whistler also failed the challenge and decided to come after me instead.

[Declan MacPherson]

Should I go back and find the posts where you were telling us that fascism is actually left-wing, and expounding on the reasons why?

Do what you think you must do.

jackspratt has also failed the challenge and came after me instead.

[jackspratt]

It was a fair while ago, so I will have a look in the morning.

Can you help, by telling me which name you were posting under at that point?

ps I wasn't responding to your silly challenge, but to your false statement.