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Spicer Puts Iran ‘on Notice’ and Falsely Claims Bombing of U.S. Navy Ship
White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer followed the leads of President Trump and National Security Adviser Mike Flynn Thursday when he warned Iran that it is “on notice” for a recent ballistic missile test. Then Spicer mentioned another Iranian transgression: the “actions that it took against our Navy vessel.” Only, that never happened.

Spicer is likely referring to an attack on Monday on a Saudi frigate, which was not carried out by Iran. Rather, the Pentagon tells the Intercept, Houthi rebels, an Iranian-backed group fighting in Yemen, are the prime suspects. To recap: It wasn’t a U.S. ship and the attackers weren’t Iranians.

Spicer’s comments come a day after Flynn put Iran “on notice” for the ballistic missile test, and hours after President Trump did the same on Twitter.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... eless.html
Obama’s White House worked for months on a plan to seize Raqqa. Trump’s team deemed it hopelessly inadequate.
The Obama White House viewed its Syria plans as the product of years of experience in a region where every move carries unintended and potentially catastrophic consequences. Those who steered the Obama administration’s Syria policy insisted that the new White House did not understand the complexity of the issue, but soon would.

The troubled handoff of one of the United States’ most vexing national security problems shows how far the pendulum has swung between two presidents who in many ways are complete opposites. Obama sweated the smallest details of U.S. military and intelligence operations, often to the point of inaction.

Trump has made it clear that he prefers to go with his gut and has promised a swift and brutal campaign that will “utterly destroy” the Islamic State. In meetings with his national security team, he has signaled his desire to give Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, whom he regularly refers to as “Mad Dog,” a free hand in doing whatever it takes to fight terrorism.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/oba ... spartandhp
U.S. military probing more possible civilian deaths in Yemen raid
U.S. military officials told Reuters that Trump approved his first covert counterterrorism operation without sufficient intelligence, ground support or adequate backup preparations.

As a result, three officials said, the attacking SEAL team found itself dropping onto a reinforced al Qaeda base defended by landmines, snipers, and a larger than expected contingent of heavily armed Islamist extremists.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-t ... SKBN15G5RX
Congress scraps Obama rules on coal mining, guns
The Republican-controlled Congress on Thursday scrapped Obama-era rules on the environment and guns, counting on a new ally in the White House to help reverse years of what the GOP calls excessive regulation.

The Senate gave final approval to a measure eliminating a rule to prevent coal mining debris from being dumped into nearby streams, while the House backed a separate resolution doing away with extended background checks for gun purchases by some Social Security recipients with mental disabilities.

The Senate's 54-45 vote sends the repeal of the stream protection rule to President Donald Trump, who is expected to sign it. The gun measure awaits Senate action.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... spartandhp
Leaked Draft of Trump’s Religious Freedom Order Reveals Sweeping Plans to Legalize Discrimination
The breadth of the draft order, which legal experts described as “sweeping” and “staggering,” may exceed the authority of the executive branch if enacted. It also, by extending some of its protections to one particular set of religious beliefs, would risk violating the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution.
https://www.thenation.com/article/leake ... imination/
Feds Warned Trump Against Skipping Ethics Vetting
The federal government's ethics watchdog warned President Donald Trump's transition team last fall about its "unprecedented" and risky approach to staffing the cabinet, according to new emails obtained by NBC News.

Walter Shaub, Director of the Office of Government Ethics (OGE) who has clashed with Trump's administration, wrote to the then-president-elect's top lawyer on Saturday, Nov. 19, with a warning about "imminent" cabinet appointments.

"I am not sure whether you are aware that announcing the cabinet without first coordinating with OGE is unprecedented," he wrote, "and creates unnecessary risk for both the President-elect and the prospective nominees."

Shaub stated that his ethics office had "not been involved in the process as to any of these individuals."
While the ethics office had been in contact with Trump aides during the campaign, Shaub recounted how after the election, the ethics "process we put in place has broken down."
Trump White House officials did not immediately return requests for comment.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ ... spartandhp
Trump rips into Turnbull, calls refugee deal 'dumb'
US President Donald Trump ripped into his Australian counterpart in a phone call last week, reports said, castigating an Obama-era refugee deal he later described on Twitter as "dumb".

The Washington Post said Trump abruptly cut short the fiery conversation after criticising the agreement to re-settle people kept in Pacific camps, sparking a war of words with Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull on Thursday after the report surfaced.

Australia is considered a close US ally - one of the so-called "Five Eyes" with which the US routinely shares sensitive intelligence - and the call might have been expected to be smooth sailing.

But, according to the Post, Trump's assessment was the opposite.

Of his four conversations with world leaders that day "This was the worst call by far," it cited him as telling Turnbull, shortly before he terminated the telephone meeting.

Australian government sources told the Australian Broadcasting Corporation the report was "substantially accurate".
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/02/t ... 05824.html
A Florida judge has ordered President Donald Trump to pay nearly $6 million in a breach of contract dispute at a country club he owns.
Disgruntled members of Trump National Golf Club sued the real estate billionaire in May 2013, before he was a presidential candidate and still just a businessman and reality TV star.

The dispute centered on the club's refusal to pay back refundable deposits to people who wanted to drop their memberships.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by vincemunday » February 3, 2017, 11:43 am

The forest was shrinking daily but the trees kept voting for the axe as its handle was made of wood and they thought it was one of them.

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Post by Lone Star » February 3, 2017, 11:45 am

Jello, you are a high achiever when it comes to politics. While I don't agree with much that you post, I respect your seriousness on the topic and your diligence. 100% more than I can say for the 'banter boys' who just do the usual hate-America routine.

However, all the quoted links in the world aren't going to stop the Trump Train. You can thank Obama for helping to lose over 1,000 Dem offices nationwide since 2009 and Harry Reid for his nuclear option reversal (which I never agreed with anyway). Thanks, Harry!

Just wait until the Trump SCOTUS gets rolling. The Republic will be restored!
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by fatbob » February 4, 2017, 9:01 am

Extremists from all sides are dangerous whether Muslim or the Christian right wing...

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Post by Lone Star » February 4, 2017, 10:41 am

BigRick808 wrote:Enjoy ;) You're such nice guys :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPKqM-TV2i8
Anyone who doesn't understand this threat today, just refuses to see.

Australia, Japan, China, Thailand, Russia, some eastern European countries and the US in 2017, appear to be the only civilized countries who understand and still attempt to protect their citizens from the caliphate. There may be more, but I'm not aware of the efforts of every country. Difficult to keep up with what's going on in other places. I've never seen any other religion in the 20th and 21st centuries that enabled so much violence and destruction indiscriminately on a worldwide basis.

Thanks for sharing this, BigRick808. I hadn't seen this particular video compilation.
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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by Jello » February 4, 2017, 11:53 am

Lone Star wrote:Jello, you are a high achiever when it comes to politics. While I don't agree with much that you post, I respect your seriousness on the topic and your diligence. 100% more than I can say for the 'banter boys' who just do the usual hate-America routine.

However, all the quoted links in the world aren't going to stop the Trump Train. You can thank Obama for helping to lose over 1,000 Dem offices nationwide since 2009 and Harry Reid for his nuclear option reversal (which I never agreed with anyway). Thanks, Harry!

Just wait until the Trump SCOTUS gets rolling. The Republic will be restored!
Thanks for that, but I'm just a guy reading the news. Of course I don't expect to elicit any change by posting news articles on little ol' UM, but to provoke some thought in those here that may not be reading the news and getting opposing views. Most of it is mainstream left-biased, so take it as you will.

The Trump train has left the station at full speed, but he'll need the support of the people to run it to keep it on the tracks.
Trump White House clashes with resistant civil servants
“I don’t recall any kind of dissent like this happening either in a Democratic or Republican administration — this is clearly unusual,” said Chris Lu, the former deputy secretary of Labor in the Obama administration.

“There is a very powerful dissent that is now coming to the forefront among career employees. It’s unusual in my experience to have this, but we are dealing with an unusual president.”

Anita McBride, a veteran of the three previous Republican administrations, agreed that the open clashes between the administration and its civil service are more apparent than ever. But she added that more covert disagreements aren’t unique to this White House.

“These may be overt protests, but in bureaucracies, there are a lot of behind-the-scenes and under-the-radar usurping of presidential power,” she said.

“He’s going to find with the civil service, as opposed to the political appointees, you can’t say ‘you’re fired.’ If you say ‘you are fired,’ boy, you start a process that could go on legally for years.”
McBride believes that the overt protests will settle down once Trump’s full Cabinet is confirmed, giving time for the leadership to fill out their top staff and for dissenters to step down.
But Lu, the former Obama administration official, is less sure the tensions will ease, particularly if Trump keeps up his tough responses.

“It's not helpful for the president or his spokespeople to be attacking them,” he said.
“I don’t think this will chill them,” Lu said. “I think this is going to embolden career civil servants.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administrat ... l-servants
President Trump’s Disapproval Rating Has Shot Up in the Past 4 Days

More Americans than ever disapprove of the job Donald Trump is doing as president, a recent Gallup poll shows.

Trump's disapproval rating has increased 6 points in the last 4 days, according to the poll. As of Jan. 28, about 51% of Americans polled disapproved of Trump, up from 45% on Jan. 22 — six days prior to the most recent results. By contrast, about 42% approve of the job he's doing, a more moderate change compared to the 45% who approved of him on Jan. 22.
http://fortune.com/2017/01/29/donald-tr ... ng-gallup/[/b]
Poll: 49% of Americans agree with Trump's immigration ban
Americans are sharply divided over President Donald Trump's order to temporarily block U.S. entry for all refugees and citizens of seven Muslim countries, with slightly more approving the measure than disapproving, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday.
The Jan. 30-31 poll found that 49 percent of American adults said they either "strongly" or "somewhat" agreed with Trump's order, while 41 percent "strongly" or "somewhat" disagreed and another 10 percent said they don't know.
http://www.businessinsider.com/49-of-am ... ban-2017-1
Seattle judge blocks Trump immigration order; government to appeal
A federal judge on Friday put a nationwide block on U.S. President Donald Trump's week-old executive order temporarily barring refugees and nationals from seven countries from entering the United States.

The Seattle judge's temporary restraining order represents a major setback for Trump's action, although his administration could still have the policy put back into effect with an appeal.
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Post by Sport » February 4, 2017, 12:01 pm

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fatbob wrote:Extremists from all sides are dangerous whether Muslim or the Christian right wing...

Errr, I think you may have made a mistake there fatbob, yes the muslims but as far as I have seen and read, the left wing are the extremists not the right wing. The right wing are just taking it up to the lefties, I have not seen the right wing pushing the violence hatred agenda like the left do.

Some examples recently would be the Uni's in the USA in the past week not allowing free speech and actively condoning and using violence against the people who want free speech. And as outlined by LS, there are countries that do not want to tow the line with the caliphate and I support that.

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Post by Jello » February 4, 2017, 12:18 pm

BigRick808 wrote:Enjoy ;) You're such nice guys :D

Scary stuff Rick :shock:


British political journalist Mehdi Raza Hasan offers his views of Islam and Islamic terrorism.
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Post by Lone Star » February 4, 2017, 12:33 pm

Jello wrote:The Trump train has left the station at full speed, but he'll need the support of the people to run it to keep it on the tracks.

Obama needed that support, too. His transformation was eventually exposed and rejected and was not allowed to continue with Hillary. It actually created Trump, since the GOPe Mush wasn't willing to stand up to that transformation.

Trump will make mistakes, and he wasn't my candidate in the primaries, but I don't think I will ever have to question his love for the country and the fact that his efforts are to defend the citizens of the United States. I can't say that about Obama.
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Post by newtovillagelife » February 4, 2017, 2:07 pm

Well under Mr. Drump the US is showing its true stereotypical colours. Outside US borders, the country is looked down upon.

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Post by newtovillagelife » February 4, 2017, 2:13 pm

Ban on hold for now. Poor Drump.

Looks like he has rolled back some protection consumers had against their financial advisors, giving them advice that was not in their best interests. Nice to see him looking out for those in retirement.

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Sport wrote:.
fatbob wrote:Extremists from all sides are dangerous whether Muslim or the Christian right wing...

Errr, I think you may have made a mistake there fatbob, yes the muslims but as far as I have seen and read, the left wing are the extremists not the right wing. The right wing are just taking it up to the lefties, I have not seen the right wing pushing the violence hatred agenda like the left do.

Some examples recently would be the Uni's in the USA in the past week not allowing free speech and actively condoning and using violence against the people who want free speech. And as outlined by LS, there are countries that do not want to tow the line with the caliphate and I support that.
No I'm talking about the Christian Right wing conservatives.

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Post by Lone Star » February 4, 2017, 8:19 pm

newtovillagelife wrote:Well under Mr. Drump the US is showing its true stereotypical colours. Outside US borders, the country is looked down upon.
So newtovillagelife now speaks for everyone outside the US. :lol: :lol: :lol: You don't even speak for everyone outside the US on this forum. :-"

You don't like Trump or the US, that's cool. I think everyone on this forum gets it loud and clear. You're entitled to your opinion, but it's not worth spit on the sidewalk; and it's mainly due to the fact that you just throw general cultural insults around. Nothing more.

Most Americans are more concerned about what goes on inside their borders than what the outside world thinks -- which is probably true for the citizens of every country; and I would expect the citizens of any country to feel that way. Their own well-being usually comes first, and they don't worry about what the rest of the world thinks.
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Post by newtovillagelife » February 4, 2017, 8:53 pm

Seems I hit a nerve. Just my opinion, which of course, is not as valid as yours.

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Post by TJ » February 5, 2017, 1:23 am

IMO this essay on the meaning of the Trump victory is informative and worth the read.
Trump’s Victory Is a Pivotal Turning Point in Human History

Donald Trump’s victory in November was not only the most important election result of our lifetimes, but ranks as one of the most significant events in recorded history, on par with the French Revolution or the fall of the Berlin Wall. And I’ll tell you why.

Western society is super-saturated with leftist propaganda. Politically astute non-leftists see it everywhere and complain about it incessantly — because it is ubiquitous. In fact, most of our waking hours are spent noticing, commenting upon, getting outraged by and then futilely combating the endless, relentless leftist slant to everything in modern culture.

Every news broadcast. Every movie. Every lesson in every classroom. Every social signifier in public. Every poll. Every TV show. Every tribal shibboleth. In ways large and small, overt and covert, subtle and blatant, the society around us is infused with progressive ideals and agendas, whether you realize it or not.

And it’s not just the entire preschool-through-PhD educational system, the entire media/entertainment complex, and most interpersonal environments; increasingly, under Obama especially, the federal government itself has become an inescapable agent of coercive progressive propaganda imposed on us with the full force of the state.
But what is the purpose of all this propaganda?

The Goal of Indoctrination
The culture-wide brainwash we witness with chagrin every day is not designed to ignite a violent overthrow of the American political structure — long experience has proven that violent revolutions simply don’t happen in middle-class first-world countries. We’re too comfortable as a nation for that strategy to ever work. Instead, the ultimate goal of all this brainwashing and social intimidation is to make the general population VOTE as the Left wants us to vote.

Many of the progressives fighting (and seemingly winning) the “culture wars” may not even realize the ultimate purpose of their activism — most naively think that the goal of altering America’s social mores is merely to alter America’s social mores, and nothing beyond that. What other objective could there be?

The answer, of course, is obvious: Political change. While it is possible, I suppose, for a thoroughly left-wing society to accept being forever ruled by a conservative government, such a state of affairs never endures for long in the real world. Indeed, one of the core values at the heart of leftism (aside from the touchy-feely cultural stuff) is that the machinery of the state exists for the very purpose of imposing by force progressive ideology on the populace. So the “culture wars” can never be fully won until leftists have a firm grip on political power.

And how do you get political power in America? You don’t have a bloody revolution. Violent revolutions can only ever succeed in what were called “peasant societies” — czarist Russia, impoverished rural China, etc., where there were large populations of oppressed peasants — but never in industrialized countries, as Marx had incorrectly assumed.

Instead, in the United States of America, you gain power incrementally by winning elections. And the way you win elections is by changing the hearts and minds (and thus the voting patterns) of the hoi polloi.

The term for this process, in Marxist theory, is cultural hegemony, a phrase that was coined by communist philosopher Antonio Gramsci to describe how the political power-structure of a society is always determined by the cultural norms of that society. A conservative-minded populace will always vote for conservative-minded leaders, so the way to achieve communism in advanced nations, he argued, would be to first change the culture so that progressive ideals become dominant, and then people will simply vote themselves into communism without the need for a revolution.

And the way to change the culture, according to the theory, is to slowly infiltrate and then surreptitiously seize control of the “institutions” which shape cultural awareness — most importantly the mass media and the educational system. This process was strongly advocated by the influential leftist philosophers at the Frankfurt School, and was eventually given the catchy name “the long march through the institutions” by ’60s radical Rudi Dutschke.

So, it’s no accident, nor did it simply happen naturally, that everything in society since the 1950s seems to have shifted wildly leftward toward political correctness; it is in fact a decades-long strategic plan to change the underlying nature of society to pave the way for an eventual socialist utopia. And while part of that plan is to deny it even exists, in reality modern academia spends most of its time these days openly discussing and debating how to best implement it.

The point behind Gramscianism and “stealth communism” (as I call it) is that the revolution in the United States should not and can not be a violent revolution, but instead a quiet revolution in which the populace imposes communism on itself willingly — what Bernie Sanders correctly dubs “democratic socialism” — that is to say, by electing socialist leaders democratically.

Which brings us to the main point: The entire purpose of 60 years of slanted media and slanted news and slanted education and social pressure and brainwashing and deception and indoctrination — all of it, everything we complain about every day, all day, for years and years and years — the purpose of all this is to get people to vote for the most left-wing candidate in each presidential election. The goal is to bring about a self-imposed silent revolution in America, a democratically elected socialist government voted in by low-information rubes unaware of what they’re doing.

And it has looked ever since Obama’s ascendancy in 2008 that this long-term strategy had reached a tipping point of success from which there was no return — no conservative could ever win another presidential election. With each passing year, the population was getting younger, more radical, more brainwashed, etc. (Midterm/off-year elections are a somewhat different story, as regional conservative outposts could still elect local representatives — but on a national scale, they were greatly outnumbered by burgeoning young generations of leftists.)

The results of these decades of indoctrination was plainly visible in the college students of today, who are all so left-wing by default that they consider standard Marxism too old-fashioned and conservative. Taking this into consideration, and remembering that the adults of today were the radical students of the recent past, it had seemed that these decades of indoctrination had been resoundingly successful, and that the U.S. electorate had swung wildly to the left, never to swing back, just as the Gramscian brainwashers had been planning and implementing for the last 50 or more years.

Ooops
And then November 8, 2016 happened, and BOOM: It was all revealed to be a lie. Not only did the indoctrination fail, but the general impression that the relentless indoctrination had always been successful was itself a gigantic meta-deception.
All the chatter and statistics and talk show “experts” proclaiming that America had forever swung Democratic? ALL LIES.
All the slanted polls, which were intended to convince everyone that Hillary was inevitable? ALL LIES.

The derision of Trump as a ludicrous fringe candidate and his supporters as wild-eyed extremists? ALL LIES.

And it’s not just that they were all lies — they were lies that had no effect. Somehow, without anyone noticing, a majority of the American populace had evolved a new immunity to progressive disinformation.

It doesn’t even matter what Trump’s actual political beliefs are or what his policies will be. All that matters is that he was the media’s Designated Enemy and yet he won.

This election didn’t merely expose the failure of six months of campaigning by the Democratic Party. This election exposed the failure of SIX DECADES of leftist propaganda to have any cumulative effect at all.

And the earthquake extends deep into the future as well. Thanks to Trump’s history-shattering victory, we now know that the Gramscian model and the Frankfurt School model don’t work. Every single thing the Left has done since the 1950s has been catastrophically wrongheaded and misconceived. It has all backfired. Which means that going into future, when they will (as they surely will) continue their failed strategy on autopilot, it will all be for naught. Why? Because these techniques only work if the victims don’t know they’re being propagandized. Yet the public in recent years has become much more sophisticated. Now we do know. And we can never un-know, once our eyes have been opened.

The Left has to now go back to the drawing board and come up with an entirely new playbook. And once they do, it will surely take decades to implement.

But the best part? The Left doesn’t understand any of this, and they won’t reformulate their playbook. They will stick to the same failed script, as we have already seen just in the last few weeks since the election. Years from now, and likely even decades from now, the Left will still be trying their stealth (and not-so-stealth) propaganda/indoctrination/bullying efforts, and they will continue to fail.

That’s why Trump’s victory is so historically significant: It is a major paradigm shift in the arc of history that completely destroys the leftists’ long-term game plan, past, present and future. To such an extent that now we’re playing an entirely new game with entirely new rules. But the left refuses to acknowledge this, and they will continue to play the old game. So they will lose. And lose. And lose. And lose. Over and over and over again until they too see the futility of the entire leftist worldview.

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

Post by BigRick808 » February 5, 2017, 1:30 am

Jello wrote:
BigRick808 wrote:Enjoy ;) You're such nice guys :D

Scary stuff Rick :shock:

And it's all true, Jello :-"

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Re: Will Trump make the Grade.

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Lone Star wrote:
BigRick808 wrote:Enjoy ;) You're such nice guys :D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BPKqM-TV2i8
Anyone who doesn't understand this threat today, just refuses to see.

Australia, Japan, China, Thailand, Russia, some eastern European countries and the US in 2017, appear to be the only civilized countries who understand and still attempt to protect their citizens from the caliphate. There may be more, but I'm not aware of the efforts of every country. Difficult to keep up with what's going on in other places. I've never seen any other religion in the 20th and 21st centuries that enabled so much violence and destruction indiscriminately on a worldwide basis.

Thanks for sharing this, BigRick808. I hadn't seen this particular video compilation.
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Post by marjamlew » February 5, 2017, 5:13 pm

The separation of powers. Reckon anyone ever explained that to the new president? Nah - beyond him for sure. I'm still flabbergasted that the most powerful man in the world is a total fookwit.
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Post by papafarang » February 5, 2017, 5:25 pm

'I'm still flabbergasted that the most powerful man in the world is a total fookwit.' :lol: :lol: :lol: . I think a lot of people are in denial about that as well :lol: .
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