Trump 2025

[tamada]

The uninformed neglect 3 things.

1. Americans won't buy the tariffed imports like they did with all the tariffs on the CCP. If Americans don't buy, they don't pay higher prices. DUH.

2. High and unreasonable tariffs are already put on US exports by the supposed trade allies, which is why the US is upping the tariff ante.

3. The US has the materials, labor and resources to create and manufacture everything they need.

Watch.

I also hear tomatoes will become expensive. Until a friend of mine developed an allergic reaction to tomatoes, I had no idea of how many totally different processed food products have tomatoes in them.

[Udon Map]

Because the US economy thrived when Trump brought all those jobs back before CCPovid was unleashed.

The data seem to tell a different story. Not that Trump was awful, as the left would have us believe, but he was pretty much average.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/TLMFGCONS

Trump pledged to bring down food prices on Day One. Instead, eggs are getting more expensive
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/28/economy/ ... index.html

The New River Valley: Manufacturing jobs grow faster under Biden than under Trump
https://cardinalnews.org/2024/07/24/who ... ia-metros/

"Let's see what happens."
- Trump

Yes, let's.

[Declan MacPherson]

Even Politico, no friend of Trump, is sounding the warning bells in Europe. The EU needs the 330+ million consumers in the US more than the US needs any foreign consumption of its US-made products.

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald- ... ffs-trade/

Key to the ongoing misdiagnosis is blindness to the true point and purpose of the tariffs U.S. President Donald Trump threatens to implement.

The tariffs aren’t being fueled by beggar-thy-neighbor trade objectives or crude protectionism; they’re resetting the rules of the game. Their purpose is to insulate the U.S. as it embarks on a radical market-oriented recalibration, stripping away the distortive, and often corruptive, influence of other countries’ state-driven economic models.

Consumed by knee-jerk reactions, officials in Brussels are failing to see this fundamental reorientation — even as Scott Bessent, set to become Trump’s treasury secretary, has been nothing but blunt.

“Free trade is to some degree in tension with free markets,” he wrote in an op-ed for The Economist last year, where he criticized decades of distortions caused by globalization. Bessent’s vision is a radical reset focused on ending domestic subsidies, confronting foreign distortions, and creating a level playing field where genuine market forces — not state interventions — dictate outcomes​.

As he explains: “Broad-based tariffs will be more effective than microeconomic interventions like industrial policy that generally rely on the government to pick winners and losers.”

Put simply, the U.S. has to build a wall against products from the global economy so that it can roll out a far more radical liberalization at home.

Rumors are strong that Trump is going to forego trade with the EU and instead make trade deals with individual countries in Europe. The EU is not America's friend and has not been for a long time.

It's all a plan that worked before CCPovid.

[AlexO]

Do you really believe that the global corporations in the USA will be happy just to restrict themselves to a local population market place. Dont think so!

Never said they would or insinuated it. If they are a global corporation operating in another country, they are operating with the consent of that country. Their products aren't imported there. The products are made in that country.

So you are claiming that IPhones (as an example) sold in Europe are made in Europe. Dont think so!

[Doodoo]

As for the IPhone Made is one thing and Assembled is another
As for the MADE part
"Some of the suppliers of key or interesting parts for the iPhone 5S, 6, and 6S and where they operate, included:

Accelerometer: Bosch Sensortech, based in Germany with locations in the U.S., China, South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan
Audio chips: Cirrus Logic, based in the U.S. with locations in the U.K., China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, and Singapore
Battery: Samsung, based in South Korea with locations in 80 countries
Battery: Sunwoda Electronic, based in China
Camera: Qualcomm, based in the U.S. with locations in Australia, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, and more than a dozen locations through Europe and Latin America
Camera: Sony, based in Japan with locations in dozens of countries
Chips for cellular networking: Qualcomm
Compass: AKM Semiconductor, based in Japan with locations in the U.S., France, England, China, South Korea, and Taiwan
Glass screen: Corning, based in the U.S., with locations in Australia, Belgium, Brazil, China, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong, India, Israel, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, South Africa, Spain, Taiwan, The Netherlands, Turkey, the U.K., and the United Arab Emirates
Gyroscope: STMicroelectronics. Based in Switzerland, with locations in 35 countries
Flash memory: Toshiba, based in Japan with locations in over 50 countries
Flash memory: Samsung
LCD screen: Sharp, based in Japan with locations in 13 countries
LCD screen: LG, based in South Korea with locations in Poland and China
A-series processor: Samsung
A-series processor: TSMC, based in Taiwan with locations in China, Singapore, and the U.S.
Touch ID: TSMC
Touch ID: Xintec. Based in Taiwan.
Touch-screen controller: Broadcom, based in the U.S. with locations in Israel, Greece, the U.K., the Netherlands, Belgium, France, India, China, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea
Wi-Fi chip: Murata, based in the U.S. with locations in Japan, Mexico, Brazil, Canada, China, Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, India, Vietnam, The Netherlands, Spain, the U.K., Germany, Hungary, France, Italy, and Finland "

[Barney]

The uninformed neglect 3 things.

1. Americans won't buy the tariffed imports like they did with all the tariffs on the CCP. If Americans don't buy, they don't pay higher prices. DUH.

2. High and unreasonable tariffs are already put on US exports by the supposed trade allies, which is why the US is upping the tariff ante.

3. The US has the materials, labor and resources to create and manufacture everything they need.

Watch.

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I also hear tomatoes will become expensive. Until a friend of mine developed an allergic reaction to tomatoes, I had no idea of how many totally different processed food products have tomatoes in them.

Theres one product he wants back on the critical mineral list

Reuters (1/30, Home) “Is uranium a critical mineral? Not according to the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS), which dropped it from its critical minerals list in 2022 on the grounds it didn’t qualify because it was a “fuel mineral”. U.S. President Donald Trump wants it to think again. One of Trump’s many “Unleashing American Energy” directives requires the Secretary of the Interior to instruct the director of the USGS to “consider updating the survey’s list of critical minerals, including for the potential of including uranium.” Inclusion on the list would open up federal funds and fast-track permitting for domestic uranium projects.”

[AlexO]

As for the IPhone Made is one thing and Assembled is another
As for the MADE part
"Some of the suppliers of key or interesting parts for the iPhone 5S, 6, and 6S and where they operate, included:

Accelerometer: Bosch Sensortech, based in Germany with locations in the U.S., China, South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan
Audio chips: Cirrus Logic, based in the U.S. with locations in the U.K., China, South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, and Singapore
Battery: Samsung, based in South Korea with locations in 80 countries
Battery: Sunwoda Electronic, based in China
Camera: Qualcomm, based in the U.S. with locations in Australia, Brazil, China, India, Indonesia, Japan, South Korea, and more than a dozen locations through Europe and Latin America
Camera: Sony, based in Japan with locations in dozens of countries
Chips for cellular networking: Qualcomm
Compass: AKM Semiconductor, based in Japan with locations in the U.S., France, England, China, South Korea, and Taiwan
Glass screen: Corning, based in the U.S., with locations in Australia, Belgium, Brazil, China, Denmark, France, Germany, Hong Kong, India, Israel, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Mexico, Philippines, Poland, Russia, Singapore, South Africa, Spain, Taiwan, The Netherlands, Turkey, the U.K., and the United Arab Emirates
Gyroscope: STMicroelectronics. Based in Switzerland, with locations in 35 countries
Flash memory: Toshiba, based in Japan with locations in over 50 countries
Flash memory: Samsung
LCD screen: Sharp, based in Japan with locations in 13 countries
LCD screen: LG, based in South Korea with locations in Poland and China
A-series processor: Samsung
A-series processor: TSMC, based in Taiwan with locations in China, Singapore, and the U.S.
Touch ID: TSMC
Touch ID: Xintec. Based in Taiwan.
Touch-screen controller: Broadcom, based in the U.S. with locations in Israel, Greece, the U.K., the Netherlands, Belgium, France, India, China, Taiwan, Singapore, and South Korea
Wi-Fi chip: Murata, based in the U.S. with locations in Japan, Mexico, Brazil, Canada, China, Taiwan, South Korea, Thailand, Malaysia, Philippines, India, Vietnam, The Netherlands, Spain, the U.K., Germany, Hungary, France, Italy, and Finland "

Exactly my point DD.
Will it become economically viable to start manufacturing all these component parts in the USA and then hope that you can start exporting the final assembled article to the foreign markets with all the inevitable tariffs imposed on American goods in response to Trump's MAGA fantasy.
Alternatively, will the finished article become economically viable in the USA market if the American assemblers continue to import component parts at hugely increased costs due to Trump's MAGA fantasy tariffs.
Dont think so!

[Declan MacPherson]

So you are claiming that IPhones (as an example) sold in Europe are made in Europe. Dont think so!

You lack reading comprehension skills. You continue to want to answer questions for me instead of asking me.


Everyone with a brain knows that iPhones are primarily assembled in the CCP. Components for those phones are made all over the world in at least a half dozen countries.

Apple has their own trade arrangements, and each of those countries manufacturing parts have their own trade arrangements, and China has separate trade arrangements.

The iPhone is not a necessity of life. There are other phone manufacturers.

[Declan MacPherson]

Exactly my point DD.
Will it become economically viable to start manufacturing all these component parts in the USA and then hope that you can start exporting the final assembled article to the foreign markets with all the inevitable tariffs imposed on American goods in response to Trump's MAGA fantasy.
Alternatively, will the finished article become economically viable in the USA market if the American assemblers continue to import component parts at hugely increased costs due to Trump's MAGA fantasy tariffs.
Dont think so!

Apple is a US Company that has global locations. They will make trade arrangements.

What is your preoccupation with the iPhone brand and Americans? You seem to hate Trump and his efforts to make America Great.

If iPhones, or any other brand becomes more expensive for Americans, they will buy another brand or find the money to buy their more expensive iPhone choice.

Look at who was in attendance at Trump's swearing in -- all standing together. Critical thinking skills required.


HINT: A picture is worth billions and billions of dollars. They will do what they have to do.

[Doodoo]

" Components for those phones are made all over the world in at least a half dozen countries."

I guess you didnt read my post

[AlexO]

Exactly my point DD.
Will it become economically viable to start manufacturing all these component parts in the USA and then hope that you can start exporting the final assembled article to the foreign markets with all the inevitable tariffs imposed on American goods in response to Trump's MAGA fantasy.
Alternatively, will the finished article become economically viable in the USA market if the American assemblers continue to import component parts at hugely increased costs due to Trump's MAGA fantasy tariffs.
Dont think so!

Apple is a US Company that has global locations. They will make trade arrangements.

What is your preoccupation with the iPhone brand and Americans? You seem to hate Trump and his efforts to make America Great.

If iPhones, or any other brand becomes more expensive for Americans, they will buy another brand or find the money to buy their more expensive iPhone choice.


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Look at who was in attendance at Trump's swearing in -- all standing together. Critical thinking skills required.


HINT: A picture is worth billions and billions of dollars. They will do what they have to do.

Tell us exactly just how Apple can make seperate Trade Agreements with manufacturers of other Nations when the USA Government has imposed import tariffs on goods from these nations?
Dont have a pre-occupation with IPhones or Americans. I used IPhones as an example (clearly noted but perhaps not quite comprehended) Facebook and Google are not manufacturers as far as I am aware but you use them as the supporters of the New Messia's import tariffs.
Have no hatred for Trump I just question some/most of his methods of achieving his aim of MAGA.
You do seem to have some sort of fantasy that Billy Bob and Co are going to choose very expensive USA manufactured goods over cheaper internationally manufactured goods.
Patriots yes but not really stupid.

[Declan MacPherson]

Tell us exactly just how Apple can make seperate Trade Agreements with manufacturers of other Nations when the USA Government has imposed import tariffs on goods from these nations?
Dont have a pre-occupation with IPhones or Americans. I used IPhones as an example (clearly noted but perhaps not quite comprehended) Facebook and Google are not manufacturers as far as I am aware but you use them as the supporters of the New Messia's import tariffs.
Have no hatred for Trump I just question some/most of his methods of achieving his aim of MAGA.
You do seem to have some sort of fantasy that Billy Bob and Co are going to choose very expensive USA manufactured goods over cheaper internationally manufactured goods.
Patriots yes but not really stupid.

1. First of all, recognize that Apple is a US company. The iPhone is not a product of the CCP. It is assembled in the country controlled by the CCP. Just as Trump can arbitrarily impose tariffs, he can singularly waive them or make a deal if SOME assembly is done in the US.

Trump loves making deals.

"Let's see what happens." - Trump

When Chinese companies export their own products to the US, competitive pressures prevent them from raising prices. In such cases, the CCP is likely NOT to pass the tariff costs onto US importers or consumers. Exporting Chinese firms will have to bear the full cost of the tariffs themselves -- or raise the price and lose the sale. I doubt any Chinese company can make a profit from US exports while shouldering a 60 per cent tariff. Consequently, the likelihood of Chinese firms halting exports to the US becomes significant if they cannot shift the burden onto another party.

Chinese firms are not obligated to pay tariffs for the products they make or assemble at the behest of American firms, such as HP’s computers and Apple’s iPhones. Since these products belong to American companies, the Chinese enterprises derive only minimal assembly fees, lacking both the obligation and capacity to pay tariffs. Instead, American companies must cover the full tariff costs.

When iPhones, iMacs, iPads and Apple Watches assembled in China enter the US, China-based contract manufacturers such as Foxconn Technology and Luxshare Precision Industry have no tariff obligations. Apple must pay these costs and decide if they want to pass those costs to consumers or take the hit themselves.

Apple hardware sales in the US is about $125.2 billion dollars. If Apple’s worried about competition (like CCP companies importing into the US) from Samsung Electronics and others in the US market, it might not pass its tariff costs on to US consumers.

As luxury items, Apple’s products already command a premium. Apple has a decision to make, but Trump hasn't made an individual decision on Apple.

2. Google: sells a variety of products and services, including:
Google Pixel: Smartphones, tablets, laptops, earbuds, and other accessories.
Google Nest: Smart home products such as smart speakers, displays, digital media players, doorbells, thermostats, smoke detectors, and wireless routers.
Fitbit: Activity trackers and smartwatches.
Google Workspace: A suite of web applications for businesses, education providers, and nonprofits, including customizable versions of Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Docs Editors, Google Meet, and more.
Google Fiber: Gigabit fiber optic internet service with no data caps or contracts.
Google TV Streamer: A device that allows users to stream content from their TV to a mobile device.
Google One: A subscription service that provides additional storage, support, and security features for Google services.
Google Pixel Buds: Wireless earbuds designed to work seamlessly with Pixel devices.
Google Pixel Stand: A wireless charger for Pixel phones and Pixel Buds.

3. Meta: sells a variety of products and services, including:
Oculus: A brand of virtual reality headsets and accessories.
Portal: A line of smart displays and video phones that allow video chatting via Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp.
Meta Quest 2: A virtual reality headset that is part of the Oculus brand.
Ray-Ban Stories: Smart glasses that allow users to take photos and videos, listen to music, and make calls.
Meta also operates a retail store, the Meta Store, which allows customers to experience and purchase some of these products in person.

4. There are American consumers who barely have a pot to pi55 in who find a way to buy the things they want -- even those who are unemployed find a way. The American consumer will adapt just as they always have.

You know just enough about trade to be dangerous because of what you don't know. You've got about a 5% grasp of what's going on with US trade, tariffs, manufactured products and the American consumer.

I suggest you do some research if there's a next time. Or not.

Have a good one. Live Your Best Life.

[Bandung_Dero]

Why is it ALL you "economic experts" are here in the back blocks of Isaan when you could be on Wall Street?
U figure it out!!! = 15 + posts of rhetorical crap & the need to keep copying each other's BS.

[Declan MacPherson]

Why is it ALL you "ecconomic experts" are here in the back blocks of Isaan when you could be on Wall Street?
U figure it out!!! = 15 + posts of rhetorical crap & the need to keep copying each other's BS.

What's with this NON expert caring about it?


Don't read what doesn't interest you.

[Bandung_Dero]

WTF does he know?

<snip>

There will be more of this to come out regarding the helicopter personnel; but all is not confirmed yet, so I will not post it yet.

And neither should have Trump!!!

[AlexO]

Tell us exactly just how Apple can make seperate Trade Agreements with manufacturers of other Nations when the USA Government has imposed import tariffs on goods from these nations?
Dont have a pre-occupation with IPhones or Americans. I used IPhones as an example (clearly noted but perhaps not quite comprehended) Facebook and Google are not manufacturers as far as I am aware but you use them as the supporters of the New Messia's import tariffs.
Have no hatred for Trump I just question some/most of his methods of achieving his aim of MAGA.
You do seem to have some sort of fantasy that Billy Bob and Co are going to choose very expensive USA manufactured goods over cheaper internationally manufactured goods.
Patriots yes but not really stupid.

1. First of all, recognize that Apple is a US company. The iPhone is not a product of the CCP. It is assembled in the country controlled by the CCP. Just as Trump can arbitrarily impose tariffs, he can singularly waive them or make a deal if SOME assembly is done in the US.

"Let's see what happens." - Trump

When Chinese companies export their own products to the US, competitive pressures prevent them from raising prices. In such cases, the CCP is likely NOT to pass the tariff costs onto US importers or consumers. Exporting Chinese firms will have to bear the full cost of the tariffs themselves -- or raise the price and lose the sale. I doubt any Chinese company can make a profit from US exports while shouldering a 60 per cent tariff. Consequently, the likelihood of Chinese firms halting exports to the US becomes significant if they cannot shift the burden onto another party.

Chinese firms are not obligated to pay tariffs for the products they make or assemble at the behest of American firms, such as HP’s computers and Apple’s iPhones. Since these products belong to American companies, the Chinese enterprises derive only minimal assembly fees, lacking both the obligation and capacity to pay tariffs. Instead, American companies must cover the full tariff costs.

When iPhones, iMacs, iPads and Apple Watches assembled in China enter the US, China-based contract manufacturers such as Foxconn Technology and Luxshare Precision Industry have no tariff obligations. Apple must pay these costs and decide if they want to pass those costs to consumers or take the hit themselves.

Apple hardware sales in the US is about $125.2 billion dollars. If Apple’s worried about competition (like CCP companies importing into the US) from Samsung Electronics and others in the US market, it might not pass its tariff costs on to US consumers.

As luxury items, Apple’s products already command a premium. Apple has a decision to make, but Trump hasn't made a individual decision on Apple.

2. Google: sells a variety of products and services, including:
Google Pixel: Smartphones, tablets, laptops, earbuds, and other accessories.
Google Nest: Smart home products such as smart speakers, displays, digital media players, doorbells, thermostats, smoke detectors, and wireless routers.
Fitbit: Activity trackers and smartwatches.
Google Workspace: A suite of web applications for businesses, education providers, and nonprofits, including customizable versions of Gmail, Google Calendar, Google Docs Editors, Google Meet, and more.
Google Fiber: Gigabit fiber optic internet service with no data caps or contracts.
Google TV Streamer: A device that allows users to stream content from their TV to a mobile device.
Google One: A subscription service that provides additional storage, support, and security features for Google services.
Google Pixel Buds: Wireless earbuds designed to work seamlessly with Pixel devices.
Google Pixel Stand: A wireless charger for Pixel phones and Pixel Buds.

3. Meta: sells a variety of products and services, including:
Oculus: A brand of virtual reality headsets and accessories.
Portal: A line of smart displays and video phones that allow video chatting via Facebook Messenger and WhatsApp.
Meta Quest 2: A virtual reality headset that is part of the Oculus brand.
Ray-Ban Stories: Smart glasses that allow users to take photos and videos, listen to music, and make calls.
Meta also operates a retail store, the Meta Store, which allows customers to experience and purchase some of these products in person.

4. There are American consumers who barely have a pot to pi55 in who find a way to buy the things they want -- even those who are unemployed find a way. The American consumer will adapt just as they always have.

You know just enough about trade to be dangerous because of what you don't know. You've got about a 5% grasp of what's going on with US trade, tariffs, manufactured products and the American consumer.

I suggest you do some research if there's a next time. Or not.

Have a good one. Live Your Best Life.


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Getting a bit Elon like with your petty insults.
Are you really telling us that Apple (and all the other USA Corporate Companies) will just absorb upwards of a 25% rise of base cost items just so Trump's vision of MAGA can be achieved. Perhaps Trump will just cherry pick who has tariffs and who doesn't. Sounds a bit of an administrative nightmare.
I was really unaware of the massive impact to the USA economy that the wholly manufactured in the USA toys that Meta and Google sell, my bad.
Apart from semi-automatic war weapons used by some, just tell us what item of goods are exclusively manufactured in the USA.
What possible benefit to USA consumers is the new 25% tariffs in imports from Canada and Mexico going to have. Dont you think that these nations are going to respond in kind?
I am really thrilled that you believe that the Americans on minimum wage, food stamps etc who are making a huge contribution to the USA economy without reverting to criminal activities will find even more ways to fund purchases of non essential, even more expensive goods from your wonderful high tech all American Corporations.

[Bandung_Dero]

There ya go. Copying the post directly above yours. WHY! And look at @alex o, he is having a great time wasting band width = too lazy to edit out the comments he wants to respond to.

And believe you me world finance has a direct influance on my livley hood.

[Doodoo]

"The iPhone is not a product of the CCP. It is assembled in the country controlled by the CCP. "

A bit of research will once again, well throw your statement down the tubes

"Foxconn Technology Group is the primary manufacturer of iPhones and is based in Taiwan."
I can assure you that Taiwan in not CCP controlled

[Declan MacPherson]

https://youtu.be/LUshtwtY-7c?si=2OdqinBVad88MCr1

Trump meets with the press again while signing another America First EO.

He talks about trade and tariffs and "making deals" where possible.

[AlexO]

There ya go. Copying the post directly above yours. WHY! And look at @alex o, he is having a great time wasting band width = too lazy to edit out the comments he wants to respond to.

And believe you me world finance has a direct influance on my livley hood.

Extremely sorry for wasting about 50 bytes of bandwidth. Note to myself, must do better.
Whole post was copied because it just showed why people respond to rather inane rants.
World finances probably have a direct influence on most people's livelihoods. Some more than others.