General Discussion of UK Politics

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Of course, Australia will pay for the technology they want. Did you really think it would be be provided for free? Do yoy really think it is all about making money from Australian taxpayers: 'But the pact covers far more than Aussie subs. It includes close co-operation on cyberintelligence, artificial intelligence, quantum computing and undersea surveillance. Since cyberspying and hacking are increasingly dangerous forms of state-to-state espionage, this three-way exchange is huge. It’s also huge that Canada was not included — and it was no accident.'

https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/columni ... urity-pact

Sometimes you are naive beyond belief.

[papafarang]

Of course, Australia will pay for the technology they want. Did you really think it would be be provided for free? Do yoy really think it is all about making money from Australian taxpayers: 'But the pact covers far more than Aussie subs. It includes close co-operation on cyberintelligence, artificial intelligence, quantum computing and undersea surveillance. Since cyberspying and hacking are increasingly dangerous forms of state-to-state espionage, this three-way exchange is huge. It’s also huge that Canada was not included — and it was no accident.'

https://edmontonsun.com/opinion/columni ... urity-pact

Sometimes you are naïve beyond belief.

what are you on about ? Australia was chosen for various reasons. what the hell has canada got to do with it ? naive . australia is getting them because of one basic reason, the pacific and the Indian ocean , you know covering the southern hemisphere. your geography is astoundingly dumb, you might notice canada is no where near the Indian ocean or the south china sea. plus giving canada the tech is pointless ,there's already plenty of nuke subs cruising the seas up north. As for close co-operation on cyberintelligence, artificial intelligence, quantum computing and undersea surveillance. Since cyberspying and hacking are increasingly dangerous forms of state-to-state espionage . that is already being done .have you not heard about the 5 eyes or the quad. plus to top it off giving the tech to australia really pisses off the chinese, do you think they would care if it was given to canada.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Again, your misguided logic leads you astray and denies you the ability to read a map of the world, or to understand even a smidgen of geopolitics. It is a good thing you are a marvel at making delicious food, because you are out-of-your depth when it comes to most everything else.

[papafarang]

And you still don't get why British north America has not been invited , its because canada is not in the southern hemisphere , some strange story about chinese triads running the canadian government , the only thing canada could do is cover is the north pole, they want to squeeze the chinese from the south. misguided logic ? it's not logic , its in the news. giving canada nuke tech would would pointless, that's why canada was not invited. not because of some silly story you made up about triads.

[tamada]

The Business Secretary Kwasi Kwarteng said in Parliament earlier in the week that giving 'emergency' visas to foreign truckers won't solve the UK's current domestic logistics nightmare. Fast-forward 24-hours and BP says they will start rationing their pump station resupply due to a shortage of tanker drivers. Click on another 24-hours and the government says there's are no petrol shortages and please don't panic buy. Instantly, the sheeple grab every plastic jerrican and empty milk bottle and go cruising for open petrol pumps. One BP station sold the same volume of petrol and diesel in one day than they typically sell over five days. Since they are on a 7-day resupply schedule, they are now closed.
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Now Bojo's team of sheepdogs (with apologies to working sheepdogs everywhere) have said that they will issue 10,500 emergency visas, 5000 for foreign truck drivers and 5500 for foreign poultry workers. These visas will only be available until December when, by the calculations of the Tory spin doctors, all the turkeys will have been slaughtered and delivered and Christmas as the average Brit knows it will have been saved.

https://www.ft.com/content/683b4e41-947 ... 75214c4bf2

Please note that NO links to The Guardian were used in this post.

[stattointhailand]

Had to have a chuckle (to me, to you sorry) when watching a news bulletin on TV the other day. They had the CEO or some other Bigwig from Iceland Food store being interviewed, and he said that nobody needs to stockpile as there wont be any shortages. When asked how he knew there would not be any shortages he said because we have stockpiled enough goods to cope with any rush . Why the interviewer didnt rip him to shreds I have no idea

[tamada]

^ BP stockpiles their products at their refineries and tank farms. They don't keep ALL of it at the petrol station.

[stattointhailand]

BP haven't, as far as I know, told people not to do exactly what they are doing themselves.

Perhaps Iceland think that them hoarding/stockpiling items so their customers do not need to go without whilst Sainsburys/Asda/Tesco customers cant get their supplies is somehow different to Joe Bloggs hoarding/stockpiling items so his family do not need to go without whilst everyone else suffers

[stattointhailand]

They were saying yesterday that only about 30% of the usual amount of fireworks will be available this year for Bonfire night. Surely now is the perfect time to ban firework sales except for properly organised events.
Perfect chance to avoid hundreds of accidental fires/injuries etc and the land of so called animal lovers can do their bit for our furry and feathered friends who we manage to scare the sh*t out of every year

[tamada]

BP haven't, as far as I know, told people not to do exactly what they are doing themselves.

Perhaps Iceland think that them hoarding/stockpiling items so their customers do not need to go without whilst Sainsburys/Asda/Tesco customers cant get their supplies is somehow different to Joe Bloggs hoarding/stockpiling items so his family do not need to go without whilst everyone else suffers

Totally different.

Most of the stuff that the dim and the witless panic buyers hoovered up in the UK after the first lockdown last spring ended up spoiling and being dumped in thousands of waste bins on hundreds of streets all over the UK. This was because, apart from toilet roll, nobody had enough bloody refrigerated storage in their homes for all the stuff they bought. Bloody vvankers.

Iceland, Tesco, Morrison's, Asda collectively have thousands of square meters of fresh and refrigerated storage. If their 'hoarding' means less stuff wasted by the dim and the witless panic buyers, I am all for it. If the British public can't be trusted to work that sort of stuff out for themselves, it's better that someone else does if for them.

I'm hoping that the dim and the witless who panic bought petrol and took it home in jericans and milk cartons are dim and witless enough to keep it in the house where it catches fire.

[tamada]

They were saying yesterday that only about 30% of the usual amount of fireworks will be available this year for Bonfire night. Surely now is the perfect time to ban firework sales except for properly organised events.
Perfect chance to avoid hundreds of accidental fires/injuries etc and the land of so called animal lovers can do their bit for our furry and feathered friends who we manage to scare the sh*t out of every year

Are you asking the great British unwashed to act sensibly and responsibly? Or are you all for the nanny state to make new laws to tell them to behave?

[stattointhailand]

Dont need to sell so many, so quadruple the price for them and see what happens. At worst we end up selling the the 30% (but collect more tax) at best the sensible amongst the population will say "sod that" lets go to an official display (often raising money for charity) and not bother to play brainless moron at home this year. You never know, it may work a bit like the mega taxation on cigs has done

[GT93]

I think you're urinating into the winds statts. Surely the Tories, led by the lardy clown, aren't likely to be killjoys and ban fireworks?

[stattointhailand]

Yeah your right GT, It would stand out like a sore thumb as the one and only benefit to come out of Brexit wouldnt it?

[tamada]

Dont need to sell so many, so quadruple the price for them and see what happens. At worst we end up selling the the 30% (but collect more tax) at best the sensible amongst the population will say "sod that" lets go to an official display (often raising money for charity) and not bother to play brainless moron at home this year. You never know, it may work a bit like the mega taxation on cigs has done

Tax the fireworks to death? I like that idea. I wonder what the dim and the witless will squander their autumn savings on? Plastic camping jerricans from Argos for keeping their hard fought petrol in would seem to be the most popular gift this festive season.

I read with interest that the panic-stricken Tories are planning getting the army involved with the petrol supply logistics. This would be either sticking army drivers in the cab of commercial tankers or using army tankers themselves. Much better to place them on forecourts, picking off the dim and the witless in their flashy SUV's and crossovers who typically only buy a tenner's worth worth of petrol. Just another aspect of 'looking good' while living their hand-to-mouth existence under the Tories.

[stattointhailand]

[tamada]

Looks like the affable and unflappable Grant Shapps as squarely laid the blame for the 'manufactured' petrol shortages on some nameless whistleblower from the road hauliers. But once again, none of the interviewers have pointed out how preposterous his latest act of sloping Tory shoulders sounds. Why would anyone heavily involved with the administration and regulation of the UK's road transport business want to undermine the Tory's image of being firmly in control of a wonderfully robust and stable nation state that is safely charting these choppy post-Brexit waters alone?

Oh wait, there's more...

[GT93]

I think the Brexit vessel has sprung a couple of leaks. That was inevitable when the lardy clown is in charge.

[rick]

Amusing to see the traffic jams of petrol.panic buyers. In some cases entry to supermarket shoppers has been blocked by petrol queues. One woman was crying because she had driven 200 miles trying to find petrol and had now run out. Err, you could have used that fuel for a more sensible trip!

Sometimes i think the Uk os a nation of idiots, governed by bigger ones.

[papafarang]

having an EV has its benefits