EU in or out? Brexit: The Movie

[AlexO]

Bob, if the rest of the members of the club were all paying the same membership fee then fair enough. This is why the EU is pissed at the UK leaving, who is going to make up for the 10 Billion shortfall ?? Probably not the surrender monkey's and the Germans are starting to say enoughs enough.

[BobHelm]

& areas like Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland got huge development grants off the EU budget as well..

Is Westminster going to match those, I doubt it - Parliament in Westminster have had little regard for anything outside the City of London for more years than I can remember!!!

[Zidane]

Well,if the Pound slides much further then a bottle of Archa will be regarded as a treat for many Brits and a packet of McVities Chocolate Digestives out of reach for many over here !

[papafarang]

Well,if the Pound slides much further then a bottle of Archa will be regarded as a treat for many Brits and a packet of McVities Chocolate Digestives out of reach for many over here !

and loads of Europeans heading home as the land of milk and honey turned sour. but we survived a 1000 years of wars, the black death and Maggie thatcher, leaving Europe will just be another hiccup .as for doom and gloom merchants ,get over it an crack on.

[AlexO]

& areas like Wales, Scotland & Northern Ireland got huge development grants off the EU budget as well..
Bob, do me a favour and remind me where these HUGE development grants went. But there are huge new buildings in Brussels and then we decamp for a week every month to some other city just to make sure we are fair????

[BobHelm]

Between 2014–2020, Wales will benefit from around £1.8bn European Structural Funds investment.

http://gov.wales/funding/eu-funds/2014-2020/?lang=en

EU funding programmes

European Structural Funds – Support people into work and training, youth employment, research and innovation, business (SMEs) competitiveness, renewable energy and energy efficiency, and connectivity and urban development.
Common Agricultural Policy – A £200m a year scheme providing payments to more than 16,000 farms in Wales to help protect and enhance the countryside.
Welsh Government Rural Communities - Rural Development Programme 2014-2020 – A £957m programme supporting businesses, farmers, the countryside, and communities in rural areas.
European Maritime Fisheries Fund – Supporting sustainable development within the fishing and aquaculture sectors , the conservation of the marine environment, and growth and jobs in coastal communities.

Other EU funds

EU funds are also available to organisations and individuals through other EU programmes:

COSME (external link) – Helps to increase business competitiveness with assistance to improve access to finance and markets.
Erasmus+ (external link) – Offers opportunities for UK participants to study, work, volunteer, teach and train abroad in Europe.
Creative Europe (external link) – Supports the cultural and creative sectors, enabling them to reach new audiences, develop skills for the digital age and safeguard cultural and linguistic diversity.
Connecting Europe Facility (external link) – Investing in trans-European networks and infrastructures in the sectors of transport, telecommunications and energy.
LIFE (external link) – Supports nature, biodiversity, conservation, environmental and climate change projects.
EaSI (external link) – Aims to support employment, social policy and labour mobility across the EU.

[BobHelm]

Scotland set to lose £200m a year in funding after UK leaves EU

http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland-s ... -1-4167989

EU Funding in Northern Ireland

https://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/news ... eland-0_en
specifically the pdf file...

http://ec.europa.eu/unitedkingdom/sites ... 2020_1.pdf

[AlexO]

So Poland, Greece, Spain, Italy are all giving us money to improve our lives. We put in about 20B per year and then someone decides that we can have back approx 50% on what some idiot thinks is important.

EU funding programmes

European Structural Funds – Support people into work and training, youth employment, research and innovation, business (SMEs) competitiveness, renewable energy and energy efficiency, and connectivity and urban development.
Common Agricultural Policy – A £200m a year scheme providing payments to more than 16,000 farms in Wales to help protect and enhance the countryside.
Welsh Government Rural Communities - Rural Development Programme 2014-2020 – A £957m programme supporting businesses, farmers, the countryside, and communities in rural areas.
European Maritime Fisheries Fund – Supporting sustainable development within the fishing and aquaculture sectors , the conservation of the marine environment, and growth and jobs in coastal communities.

Other EU funds

EU funds are also available to organisations and individuals through other EU programmes:

COSME (external link) – Helps to increase business competitiveness with assistance to improve access to finance and markets.
Erasmus+ (external link) – Offers opportunities for UK participants to study, work, volunteer, teach and train abroad in Europe.
Creative Europe (external link) – Supports the cultural and creative sectors, enabling them to reach new audiences, develop skills for the digital age and safeguard cultural and linguistic diversity.
Connecting Europe Facility (external link) – Investing in trans-European networks and infrastructures in the sectors of transport, telecommunications and energy.
LIFE (external link) – Supports nature, biodiversity, conservation, environmental and climate change projects.
EaSI (external link) – Aims to support employment, social policy and labour mobility across the EU.


Please read this rubbish and then think about the Butter Mountains, the Sugar Mountains,youth employment, the worst in living memory. "The conservation of the marine environment, and growth and jobs in coastal communities", the UK's fishing industry and communities have been decimated.

[arjay]

For me a significant reason/justification in the UK brexiting was to re-gain control over our own destiny, to regain our democracy. Thus I am happy with the outcome of the referendum.

The decision has been taken and it's a case of moving forwards from here.

[AlexO]

Agree mate, just don't like being called a Turkey by B(W)
ankers

[rick]

Well, 3 months on, and the only progress so far is a pound now 20% down on the beginning of the year ......

Leaving will not miraculously solve anything. People blame the decline in the fishing industry on the EU, but the reality is that the fishing industry peaked over 100 years ago - and most other countries in Europe have had catches decline by a much greater amount than the UK. What helped kill the fisheries was industrial fishing for fishmeal in the North sea.

[Balthasar G.]

It now turns out that right before he turned his coat, BoJo wrote that EU membership was a “boon for the world and for Europe.”
Who needs enemies with friends like that?

[AlexO]

Rick
Do not disagree with your comment on industrial fishing, but why should it be Spanish, French boats that are allowed to do it rather than UK boats. We did not strip the Med, Brittany coastlines they did, and then were allowed to come into our waters on a quota basis to kill off the North Sea. As for the UK Pound decline by 20%, who apart from the City spivs and bookies can fathom that one out. We are still at least 2.5 years away from any real changes, just money grabbing as usual.

[BobHelm]

Yesterday the High Court ruled that the Prime Minister alone cannot trigger article 50 & start the Brexit negotiations.
The court ruled that only Parliament is authorised to do this - obviously after a discussion on the matter, resulting in an Act of Parliament.

The Government will appeal the decision to the Supreme Court which will take place next month.

If the ruling is upheld it will completely unravel the current Government's policy.
That is based on the ability to negotiate & conclude an agreement based on what the EU offers.
An Act of Parliament would greatly restrict the areas of negotiation as it would set out a 'non-negotiable' bottom line.

If the Supreme Court uphold the High Court decision then it could easily lead to a General Election based largely on what Brexit actually means,.
That would undoubtedly actually split the vote of the former Brexiters, between the Hard Brexit & Soft Brexit factions that have developed since the referendum.

[JimboPSM]

Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings.....

Boris Johnson promised yesterday to make a ‘Titanic success’ of Brexit.

• http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/bo ... ic-success

[stattointhailand]

Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings.....

Boris Johnson promised yesterday to make a ‘Titanic success’ of Brexit.

• http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/bo ... ic-success

He's obviously trying for another shot at "Have I got News for you"

[Drunk Monkey]

Yesterday the High Court ruled that the Prime Minister alone cannot trigger article 50 & start the Brexit negotiations.
The court ruled that only Parliament is authorised to do this - obviously after a discussion on the matter, resulting in an Act of Parliament.

The Government will appeal the decision to the Supreme Court which will take place next month.

If the ruling is upheld it will completely unravel the current Government's policy.
That is based on the ability to negotiate & conclude an agreement based on what the EU offers.
An Act of Parliament would greatly restrict the areas of negotiation as it would set out a 'non-negotiable' bottom line.

If the Supreme Court uphold the High Court decision then it could easily lead to a General Election based largely on what Brexit actually means,.
That would undoubtedly actually split the vote of the former Brexiters, between the Hard Brexit & Soft Brexit factions that have developed since the referendum.

Slightly more than a fly in the oitment ... a huge big spanner in the works as Brexit just got a whole lot more complicated.,

[Marcosteffano]

Maybe the uk should change its currency from the pound to the yoyo.can I have a pint please,yes sir that'll be 25 yoyos.wait minute it was only 20 yeasterday.ah but tomorrow some politician will open their big mouths and it'll be 30 yoyos.barman can you make that a half pint please....I didn't think the titanic was much of a success.bungle johnsons finest hour.

[stattointhailand]

Not much of a guess by Boris really, the pound has already sunk without trace just like the Titanic

And the Good ship UK has been rudderless and run by a bunch of pirates for years

[stattointhailand]

The European Parliament is to consider a plan that would allow British citizens to opt-in and keep their European Union citizenship – and its associated benefits – once the UK leaves the EU.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 05196.html