Coronavirus Now in Thailand !!

[Khun Paul]

Considering that the vast amount of Thais I have met over the years, most adhere to the laws of the land in the vast majority of scenarios, but the Thai mindset is in real terms wired to the system that if they think that they can get away with it without causing hardship to others or the conclusion is that Buddha is watching over them , then People will circumnavigate the law.
Unfortunately in this situation their names and details are known and further to that is found and tested and found to have the VIRUS they will have possibly infected hundreds more , whole villages may have to be in lock-down , imagine trying to do that here. I often think Thais are really selfish on many occasions and in this instance I am right 100% . So hopefully when found the FULL weight ,of the punishments is meted out to the offenders and assistance given to those innocently infected by their selfish family members`.

[jackspratt]

Considering that the vast amount of Thais I have met over the years, most adhere to the laws of the land in the vast majority of scenarios, but the Thai mindset is in real terms wired to the system that if they think that they can get away with it without causing hardship to others or the conclusion is that Buddha is watching over them , then People will circumnavigate the law.

God, you write some crap KP.

[choi choi]

Considering that the vast amount of Thais I have met over the years, most adhere to the laws of the land in the vast majority of scenarios, but the Thai mindset is in real terms wired to the system that if they think that they can get away with it without causing hardship to others or the conclusion is that Buddha is watching over them , then People will circumnavigate the law.

God, you write some crap KP.

Dont answer that khun Paul! Dont lower yourself to this tired lonely soul.
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[choi choi]

Considering that the vast amount of Thais I have met over the years, most adhere to the laws of the land in the vast majority of scenarios, but the Thai mindset is in real terms wired to the system that if they think that they can get away with it without causing hardship to others or the conclusion is that Buddha is watching over them , then People will circumnavigate the law.

God, you write some crap KP.

Dont answer that khun Paul! Dont lower yourself to this tired lonely soul.
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[pipoz4444]

A few days ago, in another section of this Forum I suggested that;

Quote: "It may be that Airlines simply elect, "Not to accept a Passenger who has very recently flown out of a certain Hub City and who then wishes to transfer onto that particular Airline(say passenger who originates from a Country where the virus is an ongoing issue of significance) thus limiting which passengers can fly with and or transfer onto that particular Airline".

Quote: "It will interesting to see how this effects future bookings and travel plans of individuals in the months to come, say if one just happens to be flying back from a Country where virus has a high level of infection in that Countries and or is getting higher at that particular time. You may well find that the Airline itself then imposes a restriction of your travel plan or even your ability to return home".


NEW POST

At the time, I was talking about Airlines enforcing conditions of travel, as opposed to Governments imposing conditions.

Today one Country (and I am sure more will follow suit) has announced a Temporary Ban on certain Countries and all people travelling/hailing from these Countries to ............ This includes those people currently residing in any one of the Banned Countries and or those who may be currently on holidays in the Banned Counties (have recently traveled to them). Basically anyone currently in these Banned Countries for whatever reason, cannot travel to ........ or can not even return home to ............in the foreseeable future. I think it is an excellent decision, in the current situation of uncertainly about how this Virus actually spreads/works, so that this Country..... can try and contain any spread of the virus within its own Borders and its own Control.

YES its a Travel Ban for the Inbound and effectively temporarily protects its own people and those who are here in ....................How long will it last, well that depends on how other Countries manage and clean up their own Virus mess.

Those Countries who stick there heads in the Sand that don't take the hard decisions now, buy leaving their Borders open for too long, to all forms/types of Travelers, will only perpetuate the spread of this Virus within their own country and regret it.

This decision effectively only causes minor inconvenience to those living hear but is well worth it, as it locks out anyone who currently resides in or hales from one of these Banned Countries and those who transport the virus across Ocean or Air.

I pity Europe with its Open Border policy I bet they wish they had big border fences.

Just wait and see how many other Countries follow suit in the same or similar manner, that is to Ban People/Travelers flying in from a country that becomes rampant with the Virus

I am just about to watch a re run of the movies "World Z", made in 2013 with Brad Pitt

Just my 2 cents worth, but I feel temporarily safer today

pipoz4444

[jai yen yen]

A few days ago, in another section of this Forum I suggested that;

Quote: "It may be that Airlines simply elect, "Not to accept a Passenger who has very recently flown out of a certain Hub City and who then wishes to transfer onto that particular Airline(say passenger who originates from a Country where the virus is an ongoing issue of significance) thus limiting which passengers can fly with and or transfer onto that particular Airline".

Quote: "It will interesting to see how this effects future bookings and travel plans of individuals in the months to come, say if one just happens to be flying back from a Country where virus has a high level of infection in that Countries and or is getting higher at that particular time. You may well find that the Airline itself then imposes a restriction of your travel plan or even your ability to return home".


NEW POST

At the time, I was talking about Airlines enforcing conditions of travel, as opposed to Governments imposing conditions.

Today one Country (and I am sure more will follow suit) has announced a Temporary Ban on certain Countries and all people travelling/hailing from these Countries to ............ This includes those people currently residing in any one of the Banned Countries and or those who may be currently on holidays in the Banned Counties (have recently traveled to them). Basically anyone currently in these Banned Countries for whatever reason, cannot travel to ........ or can not even return home to ............in the foreseeable future. I think it is an excellent decision, in the current situation of uncertainly about how this Virus actually spreads/works, so that this Country..... can try and contain any spread of the virus within its own Borders and its own Control.

YES its a Travel Ban for the Inbound and effectively temporarily protects its own people and those who are here in ....................How long will it last, well that depends on how other Countries manage and clean up their own Virus mess.

Those Countries who stick there heads in the Sand that don't take the hard decisions now, buy leaving their Borders open for too long, to all forms/types of Travelers, will only perpetuate the spread of this Virus within their own country and regret it.

This decision effectively only causes minor inconvenience to those living hear but is well worth it, as it locks out anyone who currently resides in or hales from one of these Banned Countries and those who transport the virus across Ocean or Air.

I pity Europe with its Open Border policy I bet they wish they had big border fences.

Just wait and see how many other Countries follow suit in the same or similar manner, that is to Ban People/Travelers flying in from a country that becomes rampant with the Virus

I am just about to watch a re run of the movies "World Z", made in 2013 with Brad Pitt

Just my 2 cents worth, but I feel temporarily safer today

pipoz4444

You are right and Canada is one of those countries with their head in the sand, we have people flying into the country everyday from other countries, mainly Iran recently and bringing in more cases of coronavirus. All the Canadian government will do is ask people to stay home if they feel sick,anyone can just walk through the airports here,

[pipoz4444]

Yes Jai Yen Yen,

But staying at home will not fix the problem, It may temporarily help slow the spread down

But if other Countries down eradicate the Virus in their own back yards then it just means that somewhere down the track even a year from now, someone from that Virus Host country can hop on a plane when they are not showing any symptoms (say one or two days into the cycle) fly to Montreal and WOW, 10 days later you have an outbreak in Montreal with all the people that individual has accidentally made contact with in the last 10 days.

And the cycle just keeps going each time a carrier person lands at the Montreal Airport

Then there are those who may be "Asymptomatic", those who are just Carriers, who never show any signs of the Virus and have no symptoms, who just pass it from A to B every day

I don't have the answer to this and I cant find the movie World Z, so I am now searching for the movie "Omega Man" with Charlton Heston made in 1971

Failing that I will search for "I am Legend" with Will Smith made in 2007, just to see how the world turns out

pipoz4444

[maaka]

Jetting in soon, so looking for a quick rundown of the situ in Udon City..is it much as normal, no masks , bars full, starbucks ok, hotels ok..or is it masks and not many people around, and dont go anywhere where people gather..thanks..

missus says its up north in townships / villages near us, but I cant just leave my little lady to fend for herself and family..

[GT93]

In Stickman's column last Sunday one farang on a Bangkok - Udon flight said nearly 100% of the passengers were masked up.

[Zidane]

All of Italy, a population of 60 million,has been placed in lockdown and people told to stay at home.
In the UK they are preparing to tell even the mildly sick to stay at home (BBC News)

Yet in Udon it's more or less business as usual other than sporting events being cancelled and hand gel being used wherever you go.
Is this the lull before the storm here or what ?

[jai yen yen]

Yes Jai Yen Yen,

But staying at home will not fix the problem, It may temporarily help slow the spread down

But if other Countries down eradicate the Virus in their own back yards then it just means that somewhere down the track even a year from now, someone from that Virus Host country can hop on a plane when they are not showing any symptoms (say one or two days into the cycle) fly to Montreal and WOW, 10 days later you have an outbreak in Montreal with all the people that individual has accidentally made contact with in the last 10 days.

And the cycle just keeps going each time a carrier person lands at the Montreal Airport

Then there are those who may be "Asymptomatic", those who are just Carriers, who never show any signs of the Virus and have no symptoms, who just pass it from A to B every day

I don't have the answer to this and I cant find the movie World Z, so I am now searching for the movie "Omega Man" with Charlton Heston made in 1971

Failing that I will search for "I am Legend" with Will Smith made in 2007, just to see how the world turns out

pipoz4444

If and when it gets bad here I will stay home or go for a drive in my car or motorcycle, no interaction with people. Groceries delivered and no visitors. I have beer, internet and lots of movies and my wonderful wife. I live out in the country so I am lucky i can do this. It is the only way I can see to be safe.

[AlexO]

Then there are those who may be "Asymptomatic", those who are just Carriers, who never show any signs of the Virus and have no symptoms, who just pass it from A to B every day

I don't have the answer to this and I cant find the movie World Z, so I am now searching for the movie "Omega Man" with Charlton Heston made in 1971

Failing that I will search for "I am Legend" with Will Smith made in 2007, just to see how the world turns out.

Go watch 'Contagion' released in 2008. Scarily, very near exactly what is happening now, even down to the fresh markets in a certain Country.

[pipoz4444]

Just looking at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If from the Total Number of 114,458 Cases and 4,027 Deaths (which represents a 3.51% Death Rate), you eliminate the countries of China, Italy, South Korea and Iran then by my calculation you end up with:

9855 Cases and 137 No Deaths which reduces to 1.39%

This can only be a positive for those countries who appear to be managing their respective situations at home better than the Fab Four - which have 104,603 Cases between them and also account for 3,890 out of the reported 4,027 Total Deaths to date. So what are these four Countries not doing that they should be??

As an EU Country you need to ask why does Italy have such a problem, with its high number of cases and its very high death number of 463, which equates to a 5.04% Death Rate (actually, even higher than China's) and twice that of France and Spain, way ahead of Germany and all the other EU Countries.

pipoz4444

[GT93]

Perhaps the death rate number from Italy indicates if a country doesn't meet this challenge well, there will many more perhaps avoidable deaths. The Chinese number might be trending down as they wouldn't have known what they were initially dealing with e.g. not known how contagious the Wuhan virus was.

Can we as an individual really avoid the Coronavirus? It seems to me this virus will in the years ahead be forever out there circulating.

[anefarious1]

Just looking at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If from the Total Number of 114,458 Cases and 4,027 Deaths (which represents a 3.51% Death Rate), you eliminate the countries of China, Italy, South Korea and Iran then by my calculation you end up with:

9855 Cases and 137 No Deaths which reduces to 1.39%

This can only be a positive for those countries who appear to be managing their respective situations at home better than the Fab Four - which have 104,603 Cases between them and also account for 3,890 out of the reported 4,027 Total Deaths to date. So what are these four Countries not doing that they should be??

As an EU Country you need to ask why does Italy have such a problem, with its high number of cases and its very high death number of 463, which equates to a 5.04% Death Rate (actually, even higher than China's) and twice that of France and Spain, way ahead of Germany and all the other EU Countries.

pipoz4444

Based on comparative demographics, Italians are elderly which is a big factor when it comes to the high fatality rate.

[pipoz4444]

Just looking at https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

If from the Total Number of 114,458 Cases and 4,027 Deaths (which represents a 3.51% Death Rate), you eliminate the countries of China, Italy, South Korea and Iran then by my calculation you end up with:

9855 Cases and 137 No Deaths which reduces to 1.39%

This can only be a positive for those countries who appear to be managing their respective situations at home better than the Fab Four - which have 104,603 Cases between them and also account for 3,890 out of the reported 4,027 Total Deaths to date. So what are these four Countries not doing that they should be??

As an EU Country you need to ask why does Italy have such a problem, with its high number of cases and its very high death number of 463, which equates to a 5.04% Death Rate (actually, even higher than China's) and twice that of France and Spain, way ahead of Germany and all the other EU Countries.

pipoz4444

Based on comparative demographics, Italians are elderly which is a big factor when it comes to the high fatality rate.

But the elderly also exist in the rest of Europe in mass (I dare say no less in France or Spain). Maybe the German gene's are stronger than those of the Italians??

There are many elderly are in Japan (given Japanese live longer than most) and even many more in South Korea which has nearly the same number of cases as Italy, but only 1/8 the number of associated deaths.

Something strange in the Land or Pizza's I would be trading my Passport in for another, if I were Italian, if that would help me

pipoz444

[tamada]

In Stickman's column last Sunday one farang on a Bangkok - Udon flight said nearly 100% of the passengers were masked up.

On WE008 from BKK to UTH last Friday night, this farang can report that less than half the herd in the back were 'masked up' and I should know as they ALL had to pass me sitting in Plus, self-quarantined by way of an extra 350 baht (for the 30kg bag allowance).

[samster]

Just flown down to BKK and sat in lounge waiting for AUH flight. 75% people on the flight had masks but, at Suvarnabhumi, it is a clear division in that virtually 100% orientals masked up and nearly all falang without. Interestingly, no-one in the Lounge (apart from staff) is masked. Flight down was no more than 20% full and immigration at Suvarnabhumi like a ghost town,

[Brian Davis]

I was opposite the Army Hospital today. A large notice outside apparently included Germany as one of the high risk countries. Yet, I haven't yet seen Germany mentioned in any of the Thai news.
Members may have friends or relatives recently arrived at Suvarnabhumi, so let's see if I can get some definitive answers here. I can honestly say I haven't certainty about any procedures, but surely they should be clear and advertised?
So a) What is happening with apparently healthy arrivals from the Thai recognised high risk countries?
b) If an apparently healthy German family arrived soon, with the intention of travelling on to Udon to live in their home, how is the family 'processed'?

[tamada]

^ From my observations and a causal enquiry passing through BKK international arrivals end of last week, it appears that the passengers arriving on planes from the designated high risk countries are chaperoned to the health screening desks located on the main concourse before the ramps up to the Immigration halls. I assume there's some form of screening done before they are allowed to proceed.