A little ray of sunshine from Australia

[Barney]

I don’t need or take pills.
Calm down about what? It is you with the itchy trigger finger who needs to calm down.
Your weak attempt at trying to make a positive point out of the biggest negative point labor has had for a long time by losing the unloseable election is laughable. Didn’t matter by what margin. It was the swing that counted.
Labor are in the wilderness.
I think you said you were a member of the labor party? Your bias shows.
By affiliating yourself permanently to a political party line and not being a free thinker may not help your cause at vote time.
I grew up in a staunch labor voting family but have changed my view a number of times over many years and free to make up my own mind. Maybe being a stop go man gave me time to reflect.


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[Whistler]

I am not a member of the Labor party, a swinging voter with progressive views. I voted for Howard, and last election opposed Labor and supported a very intelligent independent.

Stop carrying on like a pork chop

[jackspratt]

Goodness Barney - even your hyperbole laden rant (smashing indeed) can't disguise the fact that the swing (2PP) to the coalition was a miserly 1.17%.

The Libs in their own right lost 0.68% (and a seat), and their agrarian socialist cousins, the Nats, lost 0.1%. They were pretty much saved by the LNP hayseed Banana-benders.

Just for balance, I grew up in a staunch liberal (the lower case "l" is intended) voting family, but moving away from Australia, and watching the Lying Little Rodent Howard in action post 2000, taking the party hard conservative, was enough for me to see the light.

[Whistler]

Jack, he was a lying rodent, but when he wanted to get rid of the antiquated wholesale tax system and bring in the GST I thought it a policy worth voting for.

[jackspratt]

A further ray of sunshine - which will be sure to please the likes of vince, Alex, pipo and joudon - is that Australians seem to be embracing the progressive views of the Guardian more and more, flocking to their online newspaper.

Guardian Australia doubles audience to become fourth most popular news site in the country

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/ ... he-country

[jackspratt]

Jack, he was a lying rodent, but when he wanted to get rid of the antiquated wholesale tax system and bring in the GST I thought it a policy worth voting for.

Agree re the GST, which along with the gun buy-back, and the superannuation reforms, were the only things he got right.

Remember, just a few months after the GST started, we had the disgusting "children overboard" incident, and the litany just piles up after that.

Meanwhile, as I said previously, it is generally accepted that Scotty from Marketing is doing a good job re the current Covid crisis.

[mickojak]

Same, same;

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[Barney]

I am not a member of the Labor party, a swinging voter with progressive views. I voted for Howard, and last election opposed Labor and supported a very intelligent independent.

Stop carrying on like a pork chop

You certainly like to get in the last word always. And as usual resort to some sort or name calling. Pitiful.
I am certainly not here to debate you. I made a personal post about a ray of sunshine in present day Australia.
Do not need your constant expert opinion on all subjects.
I will bid you farewell now, I have been summoned to a more important job outside to do, shoveling up and disposing of the dog nonsense from the yard. A never ending task.


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[GT93]

I have been quite surprised to see the Libs and Scotty from Marketing doing so well. I think Australia is lucky that the royal troublemaker Abbott isn't a MP any more.

I haven't been following Oz too closely because the US and UK have been really interesting and the Aussie approach is difficult to follow since each state seems a bit different. It will be interesting to see when normal trans-Tasman flights resume again. I expect that's still quite a way off.

[noosard]

I don’t need or take pills.
Calm down about what? It is you with the itchy trigger finger who needs to calm down.
Your weak attempt at trying to make a positive point out of the biggest negative point labor has had for a long time by losing the unloseable election is laughable. Didn’t matter by what margin. It was the swing that counted.
Labor are in the wilderness.
I think you said you were a member of the labor party? Your bias shows.
By affiliating yourself permanently to a political party line and not being a free thinker may not help your cause at vote time.
I grew up in a staunch labor voting family but have changed my view a number of times over many years and free to make up my own mind. Maybe being a stop go man gave me time to reflect.


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You are correct barney he said was member of labor

I am no fan of Shorten, in fact I resigned from the labor party after clashing with him and the Right wing pricks in NSW labor before the last Federal election, so not talking him up one little bit (Whistler quoted)

[mickojak]

Maybe not.
Oz & Nz govs talking about open border again soon coz cases so low.

[noosard]

Both dollars have been on the climb up to AUD 21 today

[Whistler]

I don’t need or take pills.
Calm down about what? It is you with the itchy trigger finger who needs to calm down.
Your weak attempt at trying to make a positive point out of the biggest negative point labor has had for a long time by losing the unloseable election is laughable. Didn’t matter by what margin. It was the swing that counted.
Labor are in the wilderness.
I think you said you were a member of the labor party? Your bias shows.
By affiliating yourself permanently to a political party line and not being a free thinker may not help your cause at vote time.
I grew up in a staunch labor voting family but have changed my view a number of times over many years and free to make up my own mind. Maybe being a stop go man gave me time to reflect.


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You are correct barney he said was member of labor

I am no fan of Shorten, in fact I resigned from the labor party after clashing with him and the Right wing pricks in NSW labor before the last Federal election, so not talking him up one little bit (Whistler quoted)

Did you read the whole text?

By affiliating yourself permanently to a political party.....

A completely false assumption making the validity of the rest of his rant a nonesence.

[noosard]

Were and was are past tenses
So Barney was right
Keep this up and you prove that you are one of Piggies IQ boosters for both countries

[Whistler]

Were and was are past tenses
So Barney was right
Keep this up and you prove that you are one of Piggies IQ boosters for both countries

Which part of 'By affiliating yourself permanently to a political party..." did you not understand.?

Do you known the meaning of the word 'permanently'?

[noosard]

So he shouldn't have used permanently
You spat the chewy because your labor party was to far to the right
and then you vote further right Liberal
that makes heaps of sense

[Whistler]

So he shouldn't have used permanently
You spat the chewy because your labor party was to far to the right
and then you vote further right Liberal
that makes heaps of sense

Noosard, that is another assumption, it had nothing to do with them moving left, right or anywhere else.

Candidate and delegate selection had moved away from rank and fie selection. Methods used were sometimes utterly corrupt, and sometimes old fashioned 'factional' politics. Shorten parachuted candidates into local electoral precincts, deadbeat sycophants who had no chance and lost elections. On another occasion a delegate was elected by online voting and the process was hopelessly compromised and heavily rorted. Kaila Murnain, now dismissed NSW Secretary was a master at these tactics. Kaila (trained by slippery Sam) had Bill by the short and curlies.

Both parties are incredibly non-democratic internally, now completely out of hand.

Most party members from both side of politics are good people, they are involved because they care, when I was involved I had a good working relationship with the local liberal president, we combined efforts on local issues more than once with good results. However, factionalism is rampant both within labor and liberal parties, these powerful factions are destroying branch involvement and both parties are seeing a decline in membership as a result.

There is a saying that all politics is local, but both parties pay lip service to that motto.

[noosard]

I am no fan of Shorten, in fact I resigned from the labor party after clashing with him and the Right wing pricks in NSW labor before the last Federal election, so not talking him up one little bit
I am not a member of the Labor party, a swinging voter with progressive views. I voted for Howard, and last election opposed Labor and supported a very intelligent independent.

You seem to be confused

[noosard]

Well last few times I voted I voted for the losing party in the seat
Marginal seats are where the parties do anything
and mine was anything but marginal

[jackspratt]

I am no fan of Shorten, in fact I resigned from the labor party after clashing with him and the Right wing pricks in NSW labor before the last Federal election, so not talking him up one little bit
I am not a member of the Labor party, a swinging voter with progressive views. I voted for Howard, and last election opposed Labor and supported a very intelligent independent.

You seem to be confused

I'm confused too - are you saying (about you) "I am no fan of Shorten.........."?