Interesting video on death certificates

[mickojak]

Need tyo watch all the way through

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5wn1qs ... e=emb_logo

[stattointhailand]

"we are blessed to have a pastor that tells the truth" ................... give me strength

So what was her point?

Death certs are being filled out in the same way as they have been for the last hundred or so years??
Doctors are putting "best guesses" based on decades of experience as they have always done (thats what they have been trained to do)
Hick towns in US let relatives act as doctors?
People are dying from other things complicated by CV19
People are dying from CV19 and nobody tests so it never gets recorded as CV19
Or the one that keeps being highlighted by UK's daily conferences that people are dying because they are too scared to contact NHS early enough to report other serious problems

[Whistler]

Jackass,
She is an anti-vax Dr as well as being a gun nut, years of making loopy comments. So bad the Heath board in Montana are about to pull her right to remain on an important board driving health policy in Montana.

Does this mean if a vaccine is produced to cure COVID 19, she would oppose its use? I suspect so based on her history.

https://www.dailyinterlake.com/news/202 ... ehavior-6/

[maaka]

in there lies the rub...
if they find a vaccine for CV19, do we have to take it. Can they legally force us to take it..Or does the Bill of Human Rights, or some Constitution, or the Magna Carta, give us the right to say NO..Then what, half take it and half refuse, or what?

[FrazeeDK]

here's a Brit Company who plan on having a vaccine fielded for public use by this September. So much for 12-18 months.. Let's hope it works. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tion-plans

[tamada]

in there lies the rub...
if they find a vaccine for CV19, do we have to take it. Can they legally force us to take it..Or does the Bill of Human Rights, or some Constitution, or the Magna Carta, give us the right to say NO..Then what, half take it and half refuse, or what?

It will be incorporated in the annual flu shot and if one subscribes to the efficacy of them and get them annually, you will get the vaccine. If you don't get flu shots, you won't get the vaccine.

[maaka]

dont get the annual flu shots, never have, would rather my own immune system put up the defence or not..Never been one to toe the line, follow the herd, or be led by the nose..

[parrot]

Back in my military daze, we all had shot records. Go to Saudi? Had to have a yellow fever shot. Go to Philippines, you had to have typhoid or TB shots before you went and penicillin shots after. So, if a vaccine is developed for Covid, I could see a possibility of having to show an immunization certificate upon entry to certain, or all, countries when traveling.

[Whistler]

Back in my military daze, we all had shot records. Go to Saudi? Had to have a yellow fever shot. Go to Philippines, you had to have typhoid or TB shots before you went and penicillin shots after. So, if a vaccine is developed for Covid, I could see a possibility of having to show an immunization certificate upon entry to certain, or all, countries when traveling.

With you parrot, it may become mandatory. I have never had the flu in my life, so despite being well over the recommended age, have decided my immune system is good having fought off TB as a child without me even knowing i had it.

COVID 19. I can see an immunization record becoming like a passport, you don't have it, you do not travel. It was the same for smallpox in the 50's and 60's, a mandatory requirement.

[mickojak]

Here's former senator Ron Paul,
Saying the same thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TblqxaQbtac

[sometimewoodworker]

Back in my military daze, we all had shot records. Go to Saudi? Had to have a yellow fever shot. Go to Philippines, you had to have typhoid or TB shots before you went and penicillin shots after. So, if a vaccine is developed for Covid, I could see a possibility of having to show an immunization certificate upon entry to certain, or all, countries when traveling.

There is nothing unusual about requiring an immunity/vaccination certificate to enter a country.

It is a current requirement for entering Thailand and has been as long as I have been coming here.

Though one of the (maybe the only one) certificates is for yellow fever.

I rediscovered that on my last trip back to Thailand as I had been in Addis Ababa in transit for 18 hours I did manage to convince the health screening team that I did not have exposure so they let me through. I still have my original yellow fever immunisation certificate though it may have expired and did not have it with me. That is geographically restricted requirement.

[sometimewoodworker]

here's a Brit Company who plan on having a vaccine fielded for public use by this September. So much for 12-18 months.. Let's hope it works. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... tion-plans

We would hope to have at least some doses that are ready to be used by September,

Note the word HOPE, I posted this information a while ago and the interview I heard stressed the point that everything needs to work perfectly the first time (often they don’t) for the September date.

You then have to produce at scale, so unless production facilities are built for each possibility (millions of £ per facility some of which will be useless ) soon the 12 to 18 months time for you to get a vacation is still in place

[parrot]

I've traveled back and forth to Thailand probably 13-15 times since 1995 and never asked for a vaccination certificate. Mine went to the way of the file drawer after I retired from the Air Force

[mickojak]

I've flown in and out every month for years.
First I've heard about anything like that.

Have only ever been asked for a return flight or visa?
Mick

[noosard]

Most Western countries are free of those dieases so no vaccinatin cert needed
First time I came to south east Asia it was suggested that typhoid and cholera vaccinations be had
that was 30 years ago, but no proof was needed that they had been done

[jackspratt]

The requirement is certainly there:

https://www.iamat.org/country/thailand/ ... llow-fever

Enforcement is a totally different question.

[sometimewoodworker]

I've flown in and out every month for years.
First I've heard about anything like that.

Have only ever been asked for a return flight or visa?
Mick

Then you haven’t traveled from a risk country or stopped over for more than 12 hours in one

Thailand Required Vaccinations:
Yellow Fever
Entry requirements
A Yellow Fever vaccination certificate is only required for travellers 1 year of age and older coming from - or who are in airport transit for more than 12 hours within - a country with risk of Yellow Fever transmission.

The vaccination requirement is imposed by this country for protection against Yellow Fever since the principal mosquito vector Aedes aegypti is present in its territory.

Last reviewed and updated: April 2020

[sometimewoodworker]

The requirement is certainly there:

https://www.iamat.org/country/thailand/ ... llow-fever

Enforcement is a totally different question.

It is Definitely enforced. My word that I had had a yellow fever vacation was accepted.

[Drunk Monkey]

I've flown in and out every month for years.
First I've heard about anything like that.

Have only ever been asked for a return flight or visa?
Mick

Then you haven’t traveled from a risk country or stopped over for more than 12 hours in one

Thailand Required Vaccinations:
Yellow Fever
Entry requirements
A Yellow Fever vaccination certificate is only required for travellers 1 year of age and older coming from - or who are in airport transit for more than 12 hours within - a country with risk of Yellow Fever transmission.

The vaccination requirement is imposed by this country for protection against Yellow Fever since the principal mosquito vector Aedes aegypti is present in its territory.

Last reviewed and updated: April 2020

POSSIBLY another addition to the list of numerous Thai requirements and laws that are on the statute but not enforced.

[sometimewoodworker]

I've flown in and out every month for years.
First I've heard about anything like that.

Have only ever been asked for a return flight or visa?
Mick

Then you haven’t traveled from a risk country or stopped over for more than 12 hours in one

Thailand Required Vaccinations:
Yellow Fever
Entry requirements
A Yellow Fever vaccination certificate is only required for travellers 1 year of age and older coming from - or who are in airport transit for more than 12 hours within - a country with risk of Yellow Fever transmission.

The vaccination requirement is imposed by this country for protection against Yellow Fever since the principal mosquito vector Aedes aegypti is present in its territory.

Last reviewed and updated: April 2020

POSSIBLY another addition to the list of numerous Thai requirements and laws that are on the statute but not enforced.

As I said it is enforced.