Udon's most expensive bar

[cryptic]

[quote="wokkawombat"]
Any bar owner who is paying Baht 58 wholesale for a large San Miguel beer deserves to go down the gurgler. Remember the wholesale price is much lower than what we see in BIG C, Tesco etc'.

How do you know what the wholesale price is, do you ask the wholesaler. If you see the next San Mig wholesaler up there, ask him what he sells it for. After asking him, you would retract the above statement or should.

From what I have seen there is not much difference between the wholesaler prices, Foodland and Tesco maybe 2B at the most. No such thing as a true wholesaler in Thailand when it comes to alcohol.

[cryptic]

[quote="RALPHCUSENS

Bums on seats, not a bad thing, its called loss leaders, working on the assumption that people coming in for the loss leader, will spend on other commodities, in this case, food, which bears the highest profit margin, "Good business " [/quote]

Good business, your kidding, where is the sense in that, buying a product for 35 and sell it for 39B. Staff, utilities, space, product procurement, and what if they do not buy food. The bar owner has just wasted his own money on cheap charlies for a couple of hours, yeah 'Good business' my axxx.

[wokkawombat]

How do you know what the wholesale price is, do you ask the wholesaler. If you see the next San Mig wholesaler up there, ask him what he sells it for. After asking him, you would retract the above statement or should.

From what I have seen there is not much difference between the wholesaler prices, Foodland and Tesco maybe 2B at the most. No such thing as a true wholesaler in Thailand when it comes to alcohol.

I have lived in Udon for 4 years, I know many bar owners and Thai cafe owners. I have discussed costs with them. Not that long ago I could buy large San Mig at the bar in Lotus condotel for 60 Baht.

A few months ago I often drove a Thai girl in Loei to buy beer from the wholsaler for the family business. One time I paid with a 1000 baht note for a box of large San Mig and I can assure you there was a lot more than 300 odd Baht change given back.

I will take on the mission and get back to you with the wholesale price of large San Mig by the box.

BTY where did you come up with the price you quoted?.

John

[wokkawombat]

I was under the understanding that The Factory was mainly a restaurant and the main focus would be on food. I will check it out tonight.

John

[Glyn]

Cryptic, you are so wrong, true there may be a lot of cheap charlies about, but this thread is about identifying rip-off bars, if you read the whole thread, I started by why should this happen? If a nice place like The Clock can have reasonably priced drinks, and they are one of the longer/successful bars of Udon, then why should a lower-quality bar just a minute up the road charge 50% more for the same drinks. In my home town (leaving out the night clubs and the work mens) we have around 20 bars, and the prices range from 120bt a pint to 130bt. If bars step drastically over the average range they deserve to be slandered. We are trying not to include/complicate by comparing special service or high-quality establishments. As you started the negatives about this thread, please can you tell me why the big price differences, once I understand this I'll know where you are coming from, but at the moment I'm lost by your comments. Perhaps b4 answering you'll read about my brothers pub in UK, the part where he has to pay high taxes, electric, heating, rates, higher salaries and still offers drinks at UT prices.

[cryptic]

Cryptic, you are so wrong, but this thread is about identifying rip-off bars, if you read the whole thread, I started by why should this happen? In my home town (leaving out the night clubs and the work mens) we have around 20 bars, and the prices range from 120bt a pint to 130bt. If bars step drastically over the average range they deserve to be slandered. We are trying not to include/complicate by comparing special service or high-quality establishments. As you started the negatives about this thread, please can you tell me why the big price differences, once I understand this I'll know where you are coming from, but at the moment I'm lost by your comments. Perhaps b4 answering you'll read about my brothers pub in UK, the part where he has to pay high taxes, electric, heating, rates, higher salaries and still offers drinks at UT prices.

What the heck are you on about. I have read the thread and this is the result of some comments,
Topic started June 19 by you and on the same day you talk about Wales(UK)and your brothers pub there.
Mapache June 20 talks about the price of water in Manila, eh.
Arjay June 20 also mentions the UK.
trubrit June 21 also talks about the UK.
Lee June 21 even shows a blackboard with prices from the UK.
BeerMonk. June 21 duplicates the same bloody blackboards from the UK.
Donthani June 21 shows another blackboard price list in the UK.
Roy June 21 also mentions the UK.
Grasshopp. July 25 mentions Soi Cowboy in BKK.
Briandavis. July 27 mentions Soi Cowboy.
trubrit July 27 talks about Lord Cohen & Tesco in the UK.
trubrit July 28 talks about the UK and Tesco again in the UK.
Glyn Aug 2 talks about beer ads in the UK.
Glyn Aug 2 talks about UK and a place called butty.
fallenlocks. Aug 4 talks about Jomtien and Pattaya prices.
Ralphcuss. Aug 19 talks about the UK price structure...eh
Bobhelm Aug 19 mentions UK
Wazza Aug 19 mentions BKK.

Apart from that we have had to put up with Alcoholics Anonymous comments, tuk tuk prices to your place, mosquitoes at night market and Butty in Wales on a personal note. I thought this was on Udon Thani not the UK or Wales, etc etc.

So before you start preaching what I should and should not do, have a closer look at the thread you started. And I dont give a rats a*** where you think I am coming from or going, I just put down what I believe to be correct and logical.

If you sell San Mig large, why not tell John the price without him running around trying to find the price of 57B.

Heck yeah, nice one to get a thread going about your premises as well. No harm intended of course.

[Gozzo]

Must be something in the water (beer) over in LOS at the moment.

Everybody seems to be getting awfully angry these days.

What happened to the land of smiles.

Most expensive bar in Udon, who cares. You guys are living in heaven.

[RALPHCUSENS]

[quote="RALPHCUSENS

Bums on seats, not a bad thing, its called loss leaders, working on the assumption that people coming in for the loss leader, will spend on other commodities, in this case, food, which bears the highest profit margin, "Good business "

Good business, your kidding, where is the sense in that, buying a product for 35 and sell it for 39B. Staff, utilities, space, product procurement, and what if they do not buy food. The bar owner has just wasted his own money on cheap charlies for a couple of hours, yeah 'Good business' my axxx.[/quote]

cryptic, just ask tescos, if loss leaders are good business!

[cryptic]

Ralph,
Cant you get away from Tesco's, how about thinking about the local bar just down the road. You are trying to compare Tescos in the UK with a bar in Udon Thani, get real.

Like I said, buy for 35 and sell for 39, not business sense IMO, but wish the Factory well.

[RALPHCUSENS]

Ralph,
Cant you get away from Tesco's, how about thinking about the local bar just down the road. You are trying to compare Tescos in the UK with a bar in Udon Thani, get real.

Like I said, buy for 35 and sell for 39, not business sense IMO, but wish the Factory well.

Cryptic, I do understand where your coming from, but I was not comparing tesco's with the bars in Udon, I was trying to say, that loss leaders are marketing tools, which can attract extra custom.

I am aware, that the prices charged in BKK has to reflect the higher overheads, so I don't quite grasp your reasoning behind quoting BKK prices.

As previously stated, I have been in the trade, and I consider that a GROSS profit of more than 70%, is unreasonable, and I for one would not pay that sort of price.

As far as you classifying the expats living in Udon as Cheap Charlies, that is a unjustified statement, have you ever considered, that they may just be a little more prudent, as the vast majority, have a settled family life, so therefore they appear to you as "cheap Charlies", when in actual fact, they are acting in a responsible manner.

Ok, it is your prerogative, if you wish to pay what most people would consider to be over the odds, but please do not decry persons who do not,or cannot pay extortionate prices.

[handsome-Dane]

In my eyes there anint any expensive bars in Udon or for that matter in all of Thailand.
I wonder how many of you guys would be happy if your business only balance and didnt gave you any profit.
4 months ago I did bring a guy with me to Udon, we went to a bar where we paid 65bath for a beer, my travelmate wasnt happy because I didnt wanted to go with him to a bar where the cost was 55bath.
Why are people so CC. ??
You guys are doing much better of in Thailand than in your country with your pension. So smile and be happy and stop yak yak about peanuts......

[laphanphon]

it really has nothing to do with being a cheap charlie, though many of us are. cheap to the point of denying ourselves, i dont

[saint]

what is this thread all about ? udons most expensive bar !!!!!! if everyone in udon is such a cheap charlie as some people seem to asume, wouldnt the thread be udons cheapest bar ? its all about value for money isnt it ? to compare udon prices with BKK or anywhere else for that matter is just folly. to be honest i really dont care how much a night out costs, as long as i have a good time, but im not out everynight drowning my sorrows, because i have very few sorrows to drown. if i had to count the cost i just wouldnt go out !!!!!!! as for bars that take the p~ss on prices , well i just dont go back, quit simple really. i like life simple, simple is easy and im basically a lazy b~stard !!!!!!!!! enjoy you drink.

[laphanphon]

i like life simple, simple is easy and im basically a lazy b~stard !!!!!!!!! enjoy you drink.

hey, give me my mirror back.

back on topic, expensive bars. for me it would have to be DN complex, for the simple fact, most only sell sm beers, so that large tiger cost 120. steep for me, which is why is will get me freak on someplace else, then stop in to top off my bladder there. somehow, been there 3 times already, hmm. and had fun, due to company with, but can't see myself there on a regular basis. besides that, i don't get out much to find the most expensive bar. will try a new place every now and then, especially as mentioned, too many grand openings for motivation. but somehow i am pulled back the the old dependable spots. mostly out for food, but those occasional drinks are consistantly at the same value for money places, one upscale, one local colour.

[Glyn]

"If you sell San Mig large, why not tell John the price without him running around trying to find the price of 57B"

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT NOW.

You know guys if you don't like a topic, you don't have to write on it, you could just leave it there for those that are interested.

Constructive conversation is always a good thing, and these threads always go off at a tangent and then get back on track. I can see the relevance of people discussing Tesco marketing strategy, the significance of chalk boards (pics from UK examples, why not!) the fact that brit pubs have higher running cost yet do a better job, all significant to the thread, thanks all for your input.

But being arsy for the sake of being arsy, what's that about? It's funny how people show their true colours when sat at a monitor.

This is a warning for those that need it...
the internet is addictive, it's taking over peoples lives, whereby they no longer live in the real world. If you think this is you, turn off your system, get out there and mix with real faces/names, then you may just enhance your interpersonal and social skills

[wokkawombat]

I ate well at the factory last night. Phad Phak Ruam Mit Kai and Khao.

Menu price for large Leo is 70 baht. The opening promotion price is 39 baht for Leo only. Makes sense to me.

John

[Glyn]

The factory, is that the french owned bar on the sio going to Ruysuk?

[laphanphon]

yes it is, following up on John's recommendation to take a peek, them leo's were ok, shh, don't tell anyone i wasn't drinking tiger, which is a very reasonable 50/80 sm/lg. leo's for 39, rather nice, tho i blame it on another member. started with a couple at his house, and god forbid, out of a can. shh, i'l blow my image.

anyway, the panang moo, red, was quite tasty and spiced up as it should be. asked if i needed it toned down, please no, serve as normal, plenty of beer in box if to spicy. tom yam soup had very nice flavor also, along with some veggies in oyster sauce and Gem gave her khai phat a thumbs up along with couple rices, so no complaints, and escaped with less than 400 baht, inc. tip w/2 lg beers.

menu has standard thai dishes, western had a couple interesting things on it, bit different and worth a try next time. nothing there to break the bank, most well under 100, 50-80 range. most exp. was t-bone, 210, but dont' quote me. service very prompt and courteous. think they'll do just fine, exspecially with beer prices under the norm. decent location w/parking on street available. definitely a stop when at ruysuk, as nothing else did it for me in the area.

[cryptic]

This is a warning for those that need it...
the internet is addictive, it's taking over peoples lives, whereby they no longer live in the real world. If you think this is you, turn off your system, get out there and mix with real faces/names, then you may just enhance your interpersonal and social skills

Phew, I thought you were talking about me there for a minute. You can certainly see how many people are struck by the magic of the internet.

Just have a look at the many times per day a member notches up another 8, 10, or more short or sometimes long answers to a topic. Do they ever leave their computer room and what time the local people get on, so early in the morning. It is something we have to get used to I suppose, the internet is here to stay.

[wokkawombat]

Cryptic said

"Just have a look at the many times per day a member notches up another 8, 10, or more short or sometimes long answers to a topic. Do they ever leave their computer room and what time the local people get on, so early in the morning. It is something we have to get used to I suppose, the internet is here to stay".



As the Australian Stock Exchange opens at 7am Thai time that is the time I usually log onto the internet. I swap between the share trading page and several forums. The forums are used for light relief in between making money buying and selling and controlling my investments and income producing activities.



John