My wife's father like boxing - so boxing me was no problem.

[pompui]

and her sister is married to an englishman whom i hope will one day suffer as i did .

So because your relationship did not work,you think it is ok for this farang to suffer the same as you did,why?

[Aardvark]

I'm on your side on this one Pompui

[beer monkey]

and her sister is married to an englishman whom i hope will one day suffer as i did .

So because your relationship did not work,you think it is ok for this farang to suffer the same as you did,why?

I think i know why Nicey said that...and means it too......bit of a long story to which i remember most of it.......thats right isn't it Nicey...?

[farangano]

Fact is, that there are some very rotten scoundrels and some Thai families too - like anywhere in The World. They stick together like rats to work their way around. Like my wife who had a friend or "family" living next door and she has 3 western men and with one of those a norwegian a baby and he send this Oy 15000 THB every month in good belief. But the fact is that this Oy and her Thai boyfriend Lhung goes gambling and Oy takes drugs. My wife's father likes boxing and with his wife I would not be surprised if he has a Mia Noi since he goes bycycling every day. My wife's mother has not got a smile on a her face and everyday at 04 AM she sits on the floor and looks at old photos of her family and early morning 06 AM she sits and counts her money (and mine). My wife's father then goes bycycling and he likes to play on Thai Boxing. The whole family, cousins and whatever rats there are, lives around the same location in Udon Thani in about 1-2 Rai and some live in what I would classify as chicken houses.

Anyway, lets see what will happen. The story is not over and my wife sold the car I bought her and she is now living of of the money she defrauded me and later she might be lucky to find a new older idiot who will suck up to her lies.

I hope one day she finds a good solid guy who will get on to her and kick her rotten ass and her father as well so he can't work for 3 month.

There are simply just people who are so bad that they can only be classified as LOWER than rats and dogs.

More later. I shall have a website with pictures of my rat family pack up on a website I shall set up in the coming month. The whole story including pictures. Including warnings and hopefully my wife will never be able to get a new man ever again. I do not wish anyone even my worst enemy to get involved with this rat pack family. Believe me. Google Maps will pinpoint the house exactly and I hope the word will spread in Thailand. Those bad girls usually get in trouble sooner or later.

[wazza]

Where did u meet her Farangano ??

[Ter]

Hi Farangano, I know you are very hurt by what has happened to you and the way you have been treated throughout. It appears to me to be a calamity of massive proportion.
I know you are still very angry and want revenge but i would advise the opposite right now, it is important to get yourself out of the angry place you are in, as it will only cloud your decision process, take some time away from it meet other falang and thai and get some distance between you and this problem, for your own sanity if nothing else.

[jimboLV]

Farangano please take Ter's excellent advice in the previous post. I was screwed over much worse than you by my AMERICAN wife. I was so p1ssed off, hurt and depressed, spending all my time plotting all sorts of revenge. Then a very close friend gave me this advice which I will pass on to you. "The best revenge is to live well".

So I picked myself up and moved on with life and now couldn't be happier. I know that rotten biotch is furious knowing that I am now living the good life in Thailand, married to a wonderful girl who is about to have my child. That thought is the best revenge of all. I can't wait to send the pig a birth announcement. So get on with your life and know that Karma will eventually catch up with your ex and family.

[plien]

"The best revenge is to live well"
Very good, will try and always remember this. Thank you jimbo.
Plien

[mrnicey1966]

be careful for your own safety farangano , i can understand you wanting to expose your wife and her family but remember that your wife is also the mother of your son and your website will only contribute to the lies that your wife will make up to your son about you .
you may actually do yourself more harm in the eyes of your son , for when he gets older and possibly sees your website that will be slandering his mother , he may end up hating you.

Your whole focus now should be aimed at your son and how to extract him from that family and you can start a new life with your son , you are still a young man and you will meet more women in the future , some good and some not so good

take care

[Aardvark]

be careful for your own safety farangano , i can understand you wanting to expose your wife and her family but remember that your wife is also the mother of your son and your website will only contribute to the lies that your wife will make up to your son about you .
you may actually do yourself more harm in the eyes of your son , for when he gets older and possibly sees your website that will be slandering his mother , he may end up hating you.

Your whole focus now should be aimed at your son and how to extract him from that family and you can start a new life with your son , you are still a young man and you will meet more women in the future , some good and some not so good

take care

Good advice, you should think about it !!

[mrnicey1966]

Where are you farangano , This is better than coronation street , Eastenders and Neighbours all in

[farangano]

Thank you all. Thank you. First of all, I am still kicking. Nicely might I say. The above advise on getting on with your life has kicked in and I might say I am now happy for the first time in 2-3 years. The rotten family I married into will eventually get caught. Believe me. I know of a Thai buddhist saying, a chant, and this chant I learned from a NICE Thai and the meaning is that the chant shall get rid of the really bad people or behaviors etc. that might have inflicted you pain and suffering. Any Thai with respect for their Buddhist religion and individual will know when this chant is said that strong powers will impose the real truth sooner or later - no-one can escape.

With that said I might as well say it right out... I am doing very well. Happy is a big word but my God I am really happy I got out of that marriage and I hope I shall never see those faces again. My life is better now and all the evil that was imposed unto my life from this family has simply and easily been "chanted" away - to put it in a Thai way. The fact is also this that I am neither crazy nor stupid however my "old" family wanted to believe this! Only crazy people believe sane people are crazy! Unfortunately for me I just knew absolutely nothing about rotten ---- low-life people such as these. Where I come from no-one could or would have told me such people existed. "What you don't know about - until you learn about it - is a lesson for life". So much pain inflicted from a Thai family from day one in the marriage - and prior to - can not be compiled into a short ending story and it will take a little while before it is consumed and Buuuh Tooo'ed.... the chant - you remember?!

I have gained power... not the kind of power that seeks revenge. I am too civilized to even think such. I have too much behind me in my life to want to even contemplate such an idea. No, I want what most people aim for... most I underline... is kindness, good sleep and generally a happy life where trust and relaxation is main key-points. But yes, there are times when pressure and the idea of my (former (God forbid it)) son staying at this low-life family gets to me. If there was just one little wriggle of niceness I would not feel sad for my son. But he has the blood of me and I know that this comes in handy:

Is it for fear to wet a widow's eye,
That thou consum'st thy self in single life?
Ah! if thou issueless shalt hap to die,
The world will wail thee like a makeless wife;
The world will be thy widow and still weep
That thou no form of thee hast left behind,
When every private widow well may keep
By children's eyes, her husband's shape in mind:
Look what an unthrift in the world doth spend
Shifts but his place, for still the world enjoys it;
But beauty's waste hath in the world an end,
And kept unused the user so destroys it.
No love toward others in that bosom sits
That on himself such murd'rous shame commits.

http://www.shakespeare-online.com/sonnets/9.html

I really love that Sonnet. Just right on. Could not be any better said. Old english has not been forgotten.

I shall remain faithful upon this forum. Put in plain english; I will continue to write from time to time about this story to keep everyone interested filled in on what is happening. Eventually something will come of it - a book perhaps. A website - later. Not revenge nor evil - but the perceiving truth. As the story gets deeper and deeper known to me and others, through good Thai people, the story will tell of lies and how deeply rooted prostitution really is. Even if I did not help the truth to prevail, the truth and justice will pop up somewhere sooner or later... probably already known but left behind deceiving smiles.

Only those wounds inflicted by others will never heal - the wounds are returned to the sender as greater wounds never to heal; Buuuuh Toooo... to everyone interested. Ask the next Monk you see - he will know. After Buuuh Toooo it gets really interesting.

Kindest
Farangano

PS.
Little side story. I purchased a pair of sandals in CarreFour the last months I was with my miserable wife. 350 THB I believe it was. I put them in the awful house (call it that) on the shelf among all the dirt and old toys and ruff & puff and I could not imagine…

… Only a few days later I wanted to get out to eat normal food so me and my wife (call her that) wanted to go eat. As I was looking for my sandals I suddenly realized they where… gone. I could not find them. "Where are they?". "I don't know" she yelled in her usual angry-displeased way. I knew. I asked her about them the next day: "Did someone in your family take them?". She yelled at me and said: "I not know I not know nothing…". Silence. I told her: "Listen, when I am down at 100.000 THB I want a divorce".

Low-life ---- bastards taking a mans sandals. I believe in some countries that is good enough reason to divorce.

So I told her 2 month later to fill in the mutual divorce agreement; my sandals gone and I below 100.000 THB. Poor man. But today not so poor and gaining my normal weight - I lost 9 kilos in 2 month in Udon Thani.

Now, the funny part is this, that my current good and normal Thai friends believe this story. And a few others. Lucky and happy me. You can't fool them all, all of the time.

[Astana]

Nice Sonnet

[Laan Yaa Mo]

Are you sure you are okay and back to normal?

Your post is so full of hate, revenge and bile it is difficult to know where the happiness is in your life.

It would be nice to hear the other side of the story too as situations are usually not as clear-cut as this one seems to be (Me: good, light, Buddhist chants; wife and her family: evil, dark, work of the devil)

Don't worry too much about the sandals, they are not that important, and people 'borrow' them all of the time.

Best wishes and all that, and take care of yourself.

[farangano]

I would expect this. I never told of the devil, dark or me Buddhist chanting. And bile and O'gall we all have - it is our friend. Without it we could not digest. And humor often comes from bile. So I promise you that the humor I have today is not so much rooted in this specific story of mine as it is rooted in experience from general insight into people possessing greed.

I respect your opinion and I reflect. Yes, I am Okay. I really never liked the word "happy" because westerners have a different meaning of this I believe. We tend to use a phrase like: "How are you?" and the reply would mostly be: "I am doing fine, and you?". "I am happy" is too far fetched. But compared, as I mentioned, "happy" is probably the best word right now compared to my life the past 2-3 years with this family on my back "borrowing" everything never to return it. Borrowed kind of implies giving back. Sandals was just one of many things "borrowed".

After my wife spent 100.000 THB shopping the first month we where together before we got married I told her: "Ok, lets take it a little easy the next few month". I had my mortgage to pay and buying my Mercedes E320 CDI I felt she would be content. But not really. She started crying when I limited her shopping and once we got to Thailand it was so much more easy for her to leave her handbag at the convenience of her mother. Lots of money was "borrowed" this way. I caught her one early morning because the night before I checked the balance in THB in her handbag and wallet. Next day she told me she had bought some breakfast and when we went to a restaurant I asked her: "Oh, how much do we have in cash now?". She told me after checking her purse. She numbers did not add up. I had been with her all the time. "Where did the money go since last night 0500AM?" I asked. Upon which she got up and raced back home to convey the story to her mother. She mother looked at me now knowing I knew. My wife told me: "You can't prove it". Small scams and a continuing extraction of money - get out.

If a marriage is based on proof then something is wrong. I should have listened to my gut feeling... get out. But we had a son so I tried to soothe the matter by pretending I did not know. But the secret was out and once out they might as well start to extract as much as possible while I was still around. Call it "borrowing" if you like. I call it plain steeling and defrauding. Anything from sandals to money and later my son.

Extraction was there main goal because I did not fit into their style of living. Would it then not be better to bring on a dispute and conversation - no, not here. My wife started to cry even more and wanted to kill herself by jumping from the third floor from her fathers house. Why, she was being stressed by her mother to extract as much as possible as quick as possible and as my wife told me later: "I worked as a cashier girl in Pattaya". So that means she worked as a prostitute I was later told. If she in fact has worked as a prostitute I don't know for sure but my Thai friends have told me it sounds very plausible - and they have seen my wife and her family so it is most likely that is the case. At least she learned a few tricks around from her family members.

At times like that a crises is at hand. A family crises. So in my attempt I tried to initiate a crises-meeting (western style) upon which I got several blows from my sons grandfather (who likes to go see and bet on Thai boxing).

That was kind of when I knew things in this family was terribly wrong. Driving a man crazy in the eyes of others was their main goal. Stress and pressure makes for a short lived marriage unless you like it. I believe they got a lot of enjoyment from it.

Driving a man crazy. You know that many western men jump from buildings each year in Thailand so lots of misery after encountering some very bad examples of the female species. That is the same all over The World - but this took place in Udon Thani so there be it.

And I call things by their true name so even if my comments and post seems harsh it is truly not from bitter experience but I like to call things by their real name - as my friends have also done lately with regards to this woman.

And I urge you to follow up on the "chanting" part in my prior post so you will know what it really encompasses. Ask a monk next time you see him just to get a little cultural background at the least.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

It sure sounds like you have had a rough time, to put it mildly, with your ex-wife and her family.

Still you come across as a very bitter man with revenge on your mind. Maybe you have good reason to be like this.

As for monks chanting Buddhist sutras and Thai, northern Thai, and Isaan/Lao culture, I know a little bit about that.

One of my fondest memories is of hearing monks chant at Wat Suan Dok in Chiang Mai in 1985. They had white cords connecting the Buddha image to the monks and all across the ceiling of the wat so that they came down like the trollies of a streetcar to wind their way around the heads of the people and their wrists. In this way, the power of the Buddha was supposed to be transferred to the people, as well as much boon (merit).

Good luck in your quest for happiness.

[mortiboy]

This story is a bit dramatic is it not? I have had a very similar experience stealing, deceiving,fighting (hospitalised ) all the same stuff. One wonders why we put up with this pain and misery so long.But along the way we hope things will get better.....They don't.
You were lucky you had ....."Listen, when I am down at 100.000 THB I want a divorce"........Well I was down to 100 baht. But I never had that kind of money in the first place.
Without going into a hate routine as above,My ex wife and her violent family were real bad people.A hate trip just makes you bitter and brings it all back.I learnt to put it all behind me.I never think about them days .Only my future.
I was a survivor.I got through it.Now I have a wonderful wife and family.....I don't have load a of money,that's gone . But boy, I won. Happiness wins over all

[farangano]

Yes, it was very dramatic. My wife screaming, her father boxing me etc..

But let me put it in point without going into details to reveal my location (my wife can obtain it - if she has the brains):

1. I am STILL in Thailand
2. I have a new car
3. I am living at the water-front in a NICE modern house
4. I have NICE (new) Thai friends
5. My money situation could not be better (no more "borrowing" from my account).

Right now this very day we are heading of to eat and next we go to the beach. Then later we shall have a visit from some of our friends and tonight we eat at an amazing sea-food restaurant.

I send a thank you to a special guy helping me out as well. He know who he is when he reads this; I borrowed your fan - and returned it. And you love your motorbikes. Thank you.

[Aardvark]

Enjoy your stay in Patters farangano and watch out for those new best friends

[Ter]

Good luck to you Farangano, I hope the bad times are behind you and it's happy days from now on.
Once bitten,

Ter