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Boatman, though not American I think there might be one thing in your plan that you have overlooked.
Will American Imigration give your TGF a Visa? If you do not intend to meet her before hand I think your plan is sunk with all hands on deck before it's left port.
There are Internet sites where you can get to know a Thai lady before arriving. I've tried it, though it did not work out for me, it was a good learning curve and I don't regret it.
By coming to Thailand you "open doors" that hopefully lead to what you dream about.
Good luck,
Gary.
P.S. Hope your not deterred by a few negative comments. Stick with it. If you want it enough I'm sure you can make it work.
Will American Imigration give your TGF a Visa? If you do not intend to meet her before hand I think your plan is sunk with all hands on deck before it's left port.
There are Internet sites where you can get to know a Thai lady before arriving. I've tried it, though it did not work out for me, it was a good learning curve and I don't regret it.
By coming to Thailand you "open doors" that hopefully lead to what you dream about.
Good luck,
Gary.
P.S. Hope your not deterred by a few negative comments. Stick with it. If you want it enough I'm sure you can make it work.
travails..
Boatman,
ah, but don't you know you'll get a certain view from most of us on this Forum.. We've all got "yellow fever!!"
ah, but don't you know you'll get a certain view from most of us on this Forum.. We've all got "yellow fever!!"
Dave
I dont mean to offend anyone
I just cant get used to this divorce issue especially after 20 30 years of marraige.( Doesn,t really leave a 50 year old wife with much options!)
Also I see many Americans divorcing old and young. (i know one young american lad in his late twenties who has been married 3 times!!!)
I guess i am behind the modern times as usual.
Anyway I didn't think young people even bothered to get married these days. I think its all single mothers and partners, gay parents or whatever
regards
TC...just a silly old sod
I just cant get used to this divorce issue especially after 20 30 years of marraige.( Doesn,t really leave a 50 year old wife with much options!)
Also I see many Americans divorcing old and young. (i know one young american lad in his late twenties who has been married 3 times!!!)
I guess i am behind the modern times as usual.
Anyway I didn't think young people even bothered to get married these days. I think its all single mothers and partners, gay parents or whatever
regards
TC...just a silly old sod
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i think you are right there TC, a lot of young girls where i am seem to be happy to be single mothers at the age of only 16 living of the state .TC wrote:
Anyway I didn't think young people even bothered to get married these days. I think its all single mothers and partners, gay parents or whatever
regards
TC...just a silly old sod
getting married does sometimes appear to be forgotten nowadays. but then thats a differant topic.
Can You Dig It Dug.?
hey ho Tc . Its not always the blokes fault or the blokes decision you know. Women have an unerring way of finding the pasture greener in another field than the one they live in . Happened to me twice , once for another woman (after 12 years together and once cos lady suddenly decided she had somer very strang e beliefs that had laid dormant all her life (that after 17 years .) The last one did not leave me a lot of options due to he fact that sadly her strange beliefes also includecd trying to take me for every penny I had put together in life. Women can be as fickle as men in not more so. and the options you are left with when alone at 50 apply to both partys. I happen to like living in a relationship ,hence Thaialand etc. that does;nt make me a sad Bastard ,what makes me sad is the ammount of cash they both managed to part me from. Then after 5 divorced years the last one came back and asked for more money . Helleluulah fo Thailand. Im sure there are stories for most of the men you will find in Thailand. All I am suggesting is that maybe it is more prudent to hear and understand the story before making and passing your judgment. You may not have meant to offend anyone but my guess is that you most definately did . Or possibly even worse have in turn had the majority of this forium judged by your own wish to judge and name call so quickly.
Your advice would be greatly appreciated...
OK, guys -- I'm back from a week of business travel, so here goes...
Boatman, I'm going to give you the woman's perspective. A week of reminiscing isn't enough on which to base your plan.
If you're feeling the pull of attraction to Thai women, why don't you "revisit" Thailand in your local community? If you're near a large enough city, there should be a Thai wat. Songkran is approaching, and there will be a festival, food, family fun -- there will be many Thai-falang couples, so you won't feel out of place.
That way, you can simply enjoy the atmosphere, revisit the culture, admire the beauty of the Thai (and half-Thai) women, have a great day. Our Atlanta wat is having its festival a few day early, April 9, so if this appeals to you, better check the date.
If your fascination continues, make plans to visit Thailand. And stay off the internet and out of the bars.
SHARA
Boatman, I'm going to give you the woman's perspective. A week of reminiscing isn't enough on which to base your plan.
If you're feeling the pull of attraction to Thai women, why don't you "revisit" Thailand in your local community? If you're near a large enough city, there should be a Thai wat. Songkran is approaching, and there will be a festival, food, family fun -- there will be many Thai-falang couples, so you won't feel out of place.
That way, you can simply enjoy the atmosphere, revisit the culture, admire the beauty of the Thai (and half-Thai) women, have a great day. Our Atlanta wat is having its festival a few day early, April 9, so if this appeals to you, better check the date.
If your fascination continues, make plans to visit Thailand. And stay off the internet and out of the bars.
SHARA
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I met my first TW through a letter while in Vietnam. When I was stationed in Thailand with the Army, I went to Bangkok for a 30 day leave before reporting to my unit. After the first week of night fun, I made the decision of looking for this young lady I was corresponding with while in Vietnam. She never worked in a bar, she had done many things in Bangkok but never working as a bar girl or massage parlor. I finally found here working in a tailor shop, as I walked up to her, she turned around and then I knew this was the one. She was so beautiful and the aura that she gave off was awesome. I asked her to marry me right there and to my surprise she said yes. We were married 33 1/2 years, lots fun and 3 sons. We had many shaking happening in the marriage, but she and I always worked things out to keep it together. I still think of her and really miss her.
I lucked out again with a great TW. Urai has been very instrumental in keeping this place going, and making me as happy as she can. Urai I met on the internet, I would not change a thing as I feel life is full filled again.
There are Thai women who are very sincere in looking for someone. You just have to take your time and do some searching. Get to know what Thai life is like and get to know the lady as well. You may have to meet several Thai ladies before the one you know is for you. Good luck and I really hope you find the one for you.
Pop's
I lucked out again with a great TW. Urai has been very instrumental in keeping this place going, and making me as happy as she can. Urai I met on the internet, I would not change a thing as I feel life is full filled again.
There are Thai women who are very sincere in looking for someone. You just have to take your time and do some searching. Get to know what Thai life is like and get to know the lady as well. You may have to meet several Thai ladies before the one you know is for you. Good luck and I really hope you find the one for you.
Pop's
First off, what's the rush to marry again? You want to stand in front of a female divorce judge in America two years from now with your sobbing Thai wife. You'll be lucky to still have a pot to piss in after their done with you.
Second, how do you suppose she will get a tourist visa to the USA? Sorry to bust your bubble, but if she is young, beautiful, reads, writes, and speaks English and of sufficient social class to get a tourist visa to the USA - she has lots of upper class Thai guys and and local farangs to pick from for a mate.
Generally speaking, you meet "nice" girls in Thailand the same way as in America. Family and friends introduction. It is possible to meet someone nice over the Internet, just harder. You really need to be on the ground in Thailand.
I would say run from any girl dead set on marrying a farang. Typically, it means any farang as long as he has money...lots of it. You would be suprised how some girl who can barely make $1000 a year outside bar work/hooking will piss thru $100,000 of your money in a year. And still be complaining about needing more!
Be careful of Thai women whose sisters or friends all work in bars or have farang husbands. Doesn't necessarily mean anything but is a possible flag.
Aim for a women in her 30's or even 40's. Don't just contact 22 year old hotties.
Thais in America are like fish-out-of-water. You have no knowledge of Thai culture and she will have little knowledge of farang culture, it is going to be a hell of an adjustment.
Oh and Boatman, yes there is alot of anit-American whining from sectors of the English population. You just have to live with it especially until little Bushie is gone.
Paul - "edited with photoshop to remove all blemishes", this is good thing. Me so handsome man in government photos. LOL
And Thai women can make great wives. You just need to slow down and find the right one. Better sense of humor and don't fell the need to belittle all the time for one. They also don't have that sense of entitlement middle class women suffer from in America.
Second, how do you suppose she will get a tourist visa to the USA? Sorry to bust your bubble, but if she is young, beautiful, reads, writes, and speaks English and of sufficient social class to get a tourist visa to the USA - she has lots of upper class Thai guys and and local farangs to pick from for a mate.
Generally speaking, you meet "nice" girls in Thailand the same way as in America. Family and friends introduction. It is possible to meet someone nice over the Internet, just harder. You really need to be on the ground in Thailand.
I would say run from any girl dead set on marrying a farang. Typically, it means any farang as long as he has money...lots of it. You would be suprised how some girl who can barely make $1000 a year outside bar work/hooking will piss thru $100,000 of your money in a year. And still be complaining about needing more!
Be careful of Thai women whose sisters or friends all work in bars or have farang husbands. Doesn't necessarily mean anything but is a possible flag.
Aim for a women in her 30's or even 40's. Don't just contact 22 year old hotties.
Thais in America are like fish-out-of-water. You have no knowledge of Thai culture and she will have little knowledge of farang culture, it is going to be a hell of an adjustment.
Oh and Boatman, yes there is alot of anit-American whining from sectors of the English population. You just have to live with it especially until little Bushie is gone.
Paul - "edited with photoshop to remove all blemishes", this is good thing. Me so handsome man in government photos. LOL
And Thai women can make great wives. You just need to slow down and find the right one. Better sense of humor and don't fell the need to belittle all the time for one. They also don't have that sense of entitlement middle class women suffer from in America.
I don't think the anti-american whining is because of Bush, a lot of our fellow yanks can act like loud, and sometimes obnoxious, seems to upset the oh so proper british demeanor. Being of mainly british stock ( grandparents) I kind of understand this though I don't necc. agree with it. Your advice to boatman is also spot on, he needs to get over the former marriage and then he can go on from there
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shortimer, I call BS. Aussies ("Greatest country in the world mate") are much louder and more obnoxious. Nobody is bashing them on every other thread.
And 50% of the English guys can't drink more than 2 beers without sucker punching someone. But the whingers go on endlessly about how poorly behaved the US servicemen are.
As far as being rude, no American I know would prattle on endlessly to someone of a different race or nationality about all their "faults" like the English do. Apparently the English the invented everything of value in the world as well as won WWI, WWII, Gulf Wars 1&2, all by themselves. Yawn.
As long as were on the subject. please stop telling Americans, "In the rest of the world soccer is called football. Its the worlds most popular sport you know." Every American over 6 years old knows this!
And 50% of the English guys can't drink more than 2 beers without sucker punching someone. But the whingers go on endlessly about how poorly behaved the US servicemen are.
As far as being rude, no American I know would prattle on endlessly to someone of a different race or nationality about all their "faults" like the English do. Apparently the English the invented everything of value in the world as well as won WWI, WWII, Gulf Wars 1&2, all by themselves. Yawn.
As long as were on the subject. please stop telling Americans, "In the rest of the world soccer is called football. Its the worlds most popular sport you know." Every American over 6 years old knows this!
Oh dear, as we used to say on the streets of London during WW2 whilst dodging the huns bombs trying to hit our houses. There is nothing wrong with the americans except, they are over sexed, over paid and over here.ctm wrote:shortimer, I call BS. Aussies ("Greatest country in the world mate") are much louder and more obnoxious. Nobody is bashing them on every other thread.
And 50% of the English guys can't drink more than 2 beers without sucker punching someone. But the whingers go on endlessly about how poorly behaved the US servicemen are.
As far as being rude, no American I know would prattle on endlessly to someone of a different race or nationality about all their "faults" like the English do. Apparently the English the invented everything of value in the world as well as won WWI, WWII, Gulf Wars 1&2, all by themselves. Yawn.
As long as were on the subject. please stop telling Americans, "In the rest of the world soccer is called football. Its the worlds most popular sport you know." Every American over 6 years old knows this!
Lol I never did fathom out why our men were sent to far off fields and their place in the local palais was filled with the smart suited military men from across the pond.If any one actually remembers those days. I was the little scruffy urchin that used to take your chewing gum in exchange for introducing you to my elder sister, the only problem was, I didn't have a sister.LOL
Wow, ok I know I'm going to twist someones tail with this reply but here goes,
with regards to ctm's observation about Aussies vs Yanks, I've always kind of thought of Australians as Americans with a funny accent. After all they basically come from alike genetic stock as many Americans. In other words English who either weren't wanted anymore in the home country or poor with no future outlook at home and a chance to better themself in a new envoirment. Only real difference is they kept their allegience to the crown where we decided we should make our own decisions about our future.
Valentine- I wasn't even born yet in WW2 but I thought our troops were in UK because yours were already committed in those other places already, i.e.: Africa,Crete, ect. just like the Aussie and NZ troops. But hey, I won't complain, in my Grandfather hadn't been sent to England in WW1 he wouldn't have met Grandmother and I wouldn't be here, so I am happy.
Bottom line is Americans have their faults just like all other nationalities, I realize this and try not to exhibit the more obnoxious ones in public, ( though with a few extra cocktails in me I can be coaxed ) I know where ctm is coming from as it gets a little tiring too keep getting ones chops busted about your nationality but hey thats life. Thats one of the things I like about Thailand, the people are proud of who they are and and at least to my face don't throw jabs about my nationality. All in all none of this matters for very much, when I am in Udon next month I intend to stop in at a few of the watering holes and if I run into a sympathetic Brit or Aussie I will be happy to buy him a beer or 2 , but only if he doesn't sucker punch me!!!!!
with regards to ctm's observation about Aussies vs Yanks, I've always kind of thought of Australians as Americans with a funny accent. After all they basically come from alike genetic stock as many Americans. In other words English who either weren't wanted anymore in the home country or poor with no future outlook at home and a chance to better themself in a new envoirment. Only real difference is they kept their allegience to the crown where we decided we should make our own decisions about our future.
Valentine- I wasn't even born yet in WW2 but I thought our troops were in UK because yours were already committed in those other places already, i.e.: Africa,Crete, ect. just like the Aussie and NZ troops. But hey, I won't complain, in my Grandfather hadn't been sent to England in WW1 he wouldn't have met Grandmother and I wouldn't be here, so I am happy.
Bottom line is Americans have their faults just like all other nationalities, I realize this and try not to exhibit the more obnoxious ones in public, ( though with a few extra cocktails in me I can be coaxed ) I know where ctm is coming from as it gets a little tiring too keep getting ones chops busted about your nationality but hey thats life. Thats one of the things I like about Thailand, the people are proud of who they are and and at least to my face don't throw jabs about my nationality. All in all none of this matters for very much, when I am in Udon next month I intend to stop in at a few of the watering holes and if I run into a sympathetic Brit or Aussie I will be happy to buy him a beer or 2 , but only if he doesn't sucker punch me!!!!!
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Boatman, I met a beautiful lady here in Thailand and married her when I was 57 - that was a few years ago. The point being that you are not going to truly find someone without coming over here and looking. Surprisingly, not all Thai girls are itching to get to the USA, so I would seriously look into the motives of someone who is.
My wife and I personally know several attractive young Thai ladies of good charachter who would be happy to consider marriage to a 57 year old farang, ( and I am sure that many other members of this forum are in the same position). However, they would expect you to visit Thailand to meet them.
I would suggest that if you are touchy about being an American, you might find some of the Thai questions/investigations not to your liking. So, get on a plane and get over to Udon - it's really as easy as that.
My wife and I personally know several attractive young Thai ladies of good charachter who would be happy to consider marriage to a 57 year old farang, ( and I am sure that many other members of this forum are in the same position). However, they would expect you to visit Thailand to meet them.
I would suggest that if you are touchy about being an American, you might find some of the Thai questions/investigations not to your liking. So, get on a plane and get over to Udon - it's really as easy as that.
Here here Gary, banter about someones nationality is part of the fun in life. If you can't take it stay home, where ever that may be. After all who is of pure race anymore. My father was Italian, my mother was Scots and I was born in London, now living in Thailand with a Thai family.God what am I? Happy!!Galee wrote:With reference to the USA-Aussie-UK remarks. I think we all have our own traits and faults, but when it comes down to the nitty gritty, we all pull in the same direction. And long may that way continue.
Gary
I am coming to undon thani to meet a sweet cute hopefully normal working Thail girl next month ,we have been writing to each other for 5 months. We both realise there are many hurdles to ending up happy together .We are both mature adults, but there is a 14 year age difference. Some times i think i am being a fool ,other times i just want to grab any chance of happyness i can.
I am more concerned with her being able to settle in the UK than any other problem.I can not see my self earning a decent living in Thailand.
I have read may posts and gained some sound advice via this forum. I wish you the best of luck Boatman,but think your plan is foolish and shows what you really want is to buy a beautiful Thai lady.
Who will disapear when your money does.
I am more concerned with her being able to settle in the UK than any other problem.I can not see my self earning a decent living in Thailand.
I have read may posts and gained some sound advice via this forum. I wish you the best of luck Boatman,but think your plan is foolish and shows what you really want is to buy a beautiful Thai lady.
Who will disapear when your money does.