Danger Signs

Post by **izzix** » December 2, 2005, 11:50 pm

15. spends a lot of time in the toilet/bathroom making surepticious phonecalls. & gets thru phone topup cards at a rapid rate .

Post by **yorkman** » December 3, 2005, 4:07 am

Reading the above..and other posts...

No disrespect intended, you have your life...and live it how you like....that despite the downside of Thailand is what you can have.

However.....if you truly want a long term relationship with the 18-21 bracket....as you say.....perhaps cruising the bars is not the best idea. Certainly not all "bad" there...you have upped your risk though.

Or....see the previous post by Val if that is your agenda (because a grown up)

you will be short term "happy"

Post by **BobHelm** » December 3, 2005, 6:14 am

Boy, this relationship section has really generated some posts & reads since its conception & some strong views...

I have, generally, tried to keep my comments light, but i have had christmas day in the Uk today & so have sworn off the waggon for a day...

My first observation is that it is impossible to warn ANY male about any female - you can only learn by your mistakes, not observation or advice.
Second is what is heaven for me could be hell for some one else (and visa versa)
Third is that I have met some really 'bad' girls who were the sweetest & nicest people that I have had the pleasure to know....and some 'nice' girls that were real

- but have to agree that 'all things being equal' losing your heart to a bad girl is a recipe for pain.
It has been said before, but IMO the most important consideration when entering a relationship is time, to rush into any relationship is mad, to rush into one where two different cultures is involved is absolute stupidity.
It is well said that Love happens when you are looking for something else, but if the something else was short time in BKK then it is more likely to be lust than love...

Oh well, opnions over for the day..... where is that cork screw....

valentine · Post by **valentine** » December 3, 2005, 7:23 am

Wansman, Don't be too worried by your girls score, just look, if our beloved Admins avatar is true, she has two already and we don't even know her. Coloured hair and a fluency in English. I am sure no one on here would contemplate putting her on the bad girl list.!!!

Post by **wansman** » December 3, 2005, 9:24 am

valentine wrote:Wansman, Don't be too worried by your girls score, just look, if our beloved Admins avatar is true, she has two already and we don't even know her. Coloured hair and a fluency in English. I am sure no one on here would contemplate putting her on the bad girl list.!!!

I'm not worried about it. As she would say "I joke you".

Actually I was being supercritical when I counted her points just to see how many I could give her.

I gave her one for smoking even though it took me two years to discover that she sometimes smokes. I never smelled it on her (I don't smoke) and never saw her. Just one day I was looking in her purse for somethig and found a pack. When I asked her about it she said that she sometimes smokes. As it turns out she smokes about 1 a week so it's not really smoking.

I gave her one for having a tattoo. She had a small one before we met and asked me if she could get another one about 6 months ago. I said yes but she would not have gotten it if I had said no.

Another one, speaks some english but does have a reason for it.

One for a passport, had one when I met her but had never used it. Her friend Nui had invited her to Germany once to visit and so she got a passport but never used it and never really thought she would. Has no real idea why she got it and no idea where germany is.

One for shows more than mild displays of affection in public. Holds my hand and will sometimes let me kiss her in public. Once kissed me back in a bar (and a friend just happened to catch it in a photo), and will kiss me in an outdoor karaoke place after I get a few drinks in her.

One for multiple mobile phones. Got me one as a surprise for me so we could go in different directions and still keep in touch. Once I got my phone unlocked and got my own 1-2-call sim she gave it to her mother.

Anyway, I gave her 6 points but they are all perfectly innocent points but I still gave them to her. If I didn't know better and just counted the points from this list then I should be worried.

but, I think I'll keep her just so I don't have to jump off a 7th floor balcony somewhere (I joke you again).

Post by **polehawk** » December 3, 2005, 7:39 pm

I still say give her back that point for the tattoo, wansman. A small one behind the shoulder or in the small of the back is considered to be quite chic and modern by the younger crowd these days. As long as she doesn't have a snarling bulldog on her upper arm like mine, that is. Maybe I'll look for a job as a tattoo consultant when I resettle in Thailand.

For all we know, our Admin could be hiding a bird or rose tattoo too, valentine.

Post by **wansman** » December 3, 2005, 10:27 pm

polehawk wrote:I still say give her back that point for the tattoo, wansman. A small one behind the shoulder or in the small of the back is considered to be quite chic and modern by the younger crowd these days. As long as she doesn't have a snarling bulldog on her upper arm like mine, that is. Maybe I'll look for a job as a tattoo consultant when I resettle in Thailand.

For all we know, our Admin could be hiding a bird or rose tattoo too, valentine.

In all reality I only give her one point and that is for smoking even if she only does it occasionally. Any reason to give her a point for smoking is justified to me (I don't smoke, well, I do sometimes if I go into a smokey bar as it makes it a bit more bearable for some reason). The rest were me just trying to give her points for any reason that I could to see what her score would look like if I didn't know better. When I first read the list I saw things that She would get a point for to someone that just counted points but didn't know any other reasons for them.

I'm still keeping her

Post by **udit821** » December 5, 2005, 6:15 am

Hi guys, Great site and great forum. Will prolly visit Udon over NYE if I can talk the boss(wife) into it.

On topic-I just wanted to add, I think there is a world of difference between bar English and the type Uni Ed gals speak.

A really nice gal in her late 20's in my prov speaks good fomal type English and I'd say without doubt never worked bar before. Yet other girls who can speak just as much English who more or less gained thier education in the naughty nighlife industry, talk more like punters.

I really think the best way to find a good Thai gal is to be a punter for a while, learn alot about whats out there and going on around you then in time things wil just clik. to add, just coz a girl works bar does'nt mean she bad and just coz a girl cuts rice or serves meals, etc does'nt mean she's good.

Happy punting...

Post by **lee** » December 5, 2005, 5:43 pm

Found this on another website and thought it would fit nicely into this danger signs thread.

[quote="mangosauce.com"]Each year, thousands of western men marry a Thai girl only to discover that she is a con-woman. Rich rewards await the smiling perpetrators of this perfect crime. The awful truth is that gold-digging pays. Lonely, soft-hearted men are the hapless victims left without a pot to piss in.

Even when a couple marry with the best intensions, the chances of success are barely 50/50. Mixed race marriages are even more fragile. Throw a Thai con-woman into the mix and your misery is guaranteed. If she is an ex-hooker, the divorce courts won

Post by **yorkman** » December 6, 2005, 4:01 am

Good post Lee, and despite the obvious bitterness of the guy that has that site .....IMHO.....the below ring true,

mangosauce.com wrote: If her friends, or her, drink, smoke, play pool, have tattoos or just seem a bit rough then they are hookers and so too is your girl.

and

mangosauce.com wrote:You may have noticed how often she talks about her financial problems. If you didn

valentine · Post by **valentine** » December 6, 2005, 7:37 am

Well, Mango sauce just about sums it up.
Been there, done that!!!And if any guy says he hasn't, watch out, you will eventually. Its the price we pay for "the lesson of life"

Post by **Buom Pouy** » December 6, 2005, 2:18 pm

[quote="valentine"]Well, Mango sauce just about sums it up.
Been there, done that!!!And if any guy says he hasn't, watch out, you will eventually. Its the price we pay for "the lesson of life"[/quote]

Then there are those who just never learn from "the lesson of life".

Today I sold a cafe to a newly wed couple the gentleman was into his [b]third[/b] marriage to a Thai lady. Anyway, in case they stumble onto the site I wish them all the best for the future, regardless of the score on any lists.

Post by **lee** » December 6, 2005, 4:48 pm

Hi Buom Pouy, just a word of advise, make sure your "Disable BBCode in this post" is not ticked when you post otherwise your HTML will not show, i.e. bold writing quotes [quote] ect.

Regards, Lee

Post by **Buom Pouy** » December 7, 2005, 3:50 am

Thanks Lee, I will do in future.

Post by **wansman** » December 7, 2005, 11:05 am

Well guys, the way I see it, the list is now up to 21. Here is what I have compiled from all of the previous messages.

1 A good command of the English language.
2 Demands for money early on.
3 A love of gambling.
4 A strong desire to leave Thailand quickly.
5 An agency girl.
6 Talking of marriage after only a few dates.
7 Too much gold.
8 Internet proficiency.
9 Western style attire.
10 Dyed hair,permed hair and plastic surgery.
11 Smoking.
12. Keeps getting your name wrong.
13. Passport has entries to Western countries.
14. Shows more than very mild displays of affection in public.
15. Owning multiple mobile phones and goes thry topup cards quickly.
16. Good knowledge of western alcoholic drinks.
17. brother who moves in to keep his "sister" from being lonely.
18. well used cellphone with many international numbers.
19. body that looks like it has been punished by many dirty bar stewards from an early age .
20. Knows exactly where all the Western Union offices are in all Thai cities.
21. spends a lot of time in toilet/bathroom making surepticious phonecalls.

Perhaps #15 and #21 should be combined?

Well, I had Waen up to 6 but really only give her one so I don't feel so bad anymore ha ha.

Leave here in 9 days and back to warmer climes.

Post by **lee** » December 7, 2005, 11:42 am

22. You can usually tell a person by their friends, so be aware if her friends drink, smoke, have tattoos or just seem a bit rough then that may indicate that she is too.

valentine · Post by **valentine** » December 7, 2005, 11:52 am

Interestingly the dating agency mentioned by Paul in an adjoining forum, has added a full page warning of the scams being perpetrated by Thai ladies to extort money from foreign men using its services. The list is almost identical to ours, could even be copied. The interesting thing is, they make their living by matching the two together.Bit like the warning on a cigaret packet, maybe too late.

Post by **banpaeng** » December 8, 2005, 8:07 pm

I feel like this is a danger sign.

If you feel like you are rescueing or doing a good deed by marrying her to save her, it is the wrong reason to do it.

Post by **Bangsean_girl** » December 16, 2005, 10:41 am

banpaeng wrote: Wonder what the list would look like if the roles were reversed? What to look for in a falang and watch out for? Maybe BangSean and her friends would like to make a list for us.

For me I m looking for the guy who have full of respect I find that some foreigners guys they dont respect thai girl i think i can guess why but There are some good and some bad people which i could understand that and i hope all the people i meet are good !

From the perspective of Thai girls in general - but not my own personal views, I think that most are looking for those guys who have blue eyes blond hair and white skin ,the eyes color doesnt matter sometime but to have white skin is important !! coz they know that he would be rich coming from the us or uk

Thai girls always assume that the white guys will come from these two countries which is not true u can know by the accent and the way he speaks and most of us always think that all white people will be rich because the money they use is higher than our money <this is why the foreigners have to pay a ticket cost more than Thais when they go insde the musuem things like that .>
From the experience I think some of thai girls trying so hard to get a white bf as we see other girl who have a white bf and then she will have a big new house ,wear some gold , have a good life etc etc so other people will say that" oh they are so rich da da da" which make other thai girl wanna have the white bf for her own too. i think we kind of envy the girl who get a farang bf and always say nice things about them people dont get the clue what is behind the screen

and we forget to think that farang is just like normal people there are some good and bad

Post by **banpaeng** » December 16, 2005, 10:52 am

Bangsean_girl wrote:
banpaeng wrote: Wonder what the list would look like if the roles were reversed? What to look for in a falang and watch out for? Maybe BangSean and her friends would like to make a list for us.
For me I m looking for the guy who have full of respect I find that some foreigners guys they dont respect thai girl i think i can guess why but There are some good and some bad people which i could understand that and i hope all the people i meet are good !
From the perspective of Thai girls in general - but not my own personal views, I think that most are looking for those guys who have a blue eyes blond hair and white skin ,the eyes color doesnt matter sometime but to have white skin is important !! coz they know that he would be rich coming from the us or uk Thai girls always assume that the white guys will come from these two countries which is not true u can know by the accent and the way he speaks and most of us always think that all white people will be rich because the money they use is higher than our money <this is why the foreigners have to pay a ticket cost more than Thais when they go insde the musuem things like that .>
From the experience I think some of thai girls trying so hard to get a white bf as we see other girl who have a white bf and then she will have a big new house ,wear some gold , have a good life etc etc so other people will say that" oh they are so rich da da da" which make other thai girl wanna have the white bf for her own too. i think we kind of envy the girl who get a farang bf and always say nice things about them people dont get the clue what is behind the screen and we forget to think that farang is just like normal people there are some good and bad

Young Lady that is one of the best post I have read. It is very insightful. I especially like that part of good and bad. I beleive there is good and bad at all levels of society. You can be a bum but still have honor, respect and integrity. You can be rich and have none of these. You made my day. You go girl.

Danger Signs

hi Banpaeng

Re: hi Banpaeng