Is this a scam?

Post by **bryzor** » January 25, 2011, 11:22 pm

Hi all,

Desperately need some advice!

My brother introduced me to a thai girl two weeks ago. He worked with her 5 years ago (as her boss) and has had a close friendship with her since.

He asked me to meet up with her because she has very few friends in the UK. She is the same age as me, 33. As a side note, my bro has a bit of an infatuation with her (as I have learned from her), but as he is married he hasn't crossed that line. Personally I think he's just introduced us to keep her close, if you get my drift!

Anyway, my bro has gone on holiday for two weeks. I drop this thai girl a message and we go out. She tells me the second she saw me she knew I had a good heart and am a nice person who she can trust. Within 30 mins she asks me to go see her in Thailand. She already has a UK boyfriend (five years strong) but their relationship has drifted apart. She lives with him and his parents while in the UK. The boyfriend is aware that they're more like siblings now than anything so if she met someone new who could give her what she wants he would be upset but happy for her.

She tells me she's only interested in someone to love her. Not how much money they have, or if they own a house or what they look like, just someone to trust. She seems very polite, down-to-earth, confident, lovely.

I have seen her multiple times now over the past few days and we have become very close. But I have also learned that my bro is crazy over her, threatening to kill himself if she doesn't reply to hi calls/texts etc! She has cried on my shoulder multiple times asking me what she can do. She feels bad, while with her boyfriend she has my bro's pressure and intense texts of such emotional blackmailing nature.

I have tried to console her and told her that it has got to stop. He has to be told when he returns from holiday to cut it out. Anyway, one thing leads to another and she tells me she works in the secret police in Thailand, has a home, a beach house, bought an apartment for her own brother for £10,000, has paid £40,000 in visa costs (i.e. paying UK men in the past to pose as her spouse to gain extended visas). She also tells me that she has a brain tumour and, dependent on a test in 6 months, may only have two years to live.

By the way, she's not from Pattaya or Bangkok, I think it's much more of a smaller, quiter 'normal' location! I need to find this out!

Anyway, she says that my bro can confirm all this - she can tell that I find a lot very difficult to believe. Apparently he has spoken to her doctor on the phone regarding her tumour!

As you can imagine this has just blown me away. I am so confused.

Until she asks me for something I'm just seeing what happens. I mean I have been to Malaysia, Thailand, Hong Kong, Bali, India, Singapore etc - I am familiar with how deep scams can get but this one just seems immense! Like it couldn't be made up!

She hasn't asked me for anything, no money or somewhere to stay, but she has kissed me and now wants to see me more and more. I really like her and am fascinated by her. If my bro didn't know her I would be giving her a wide berth! But bleh... She keeps insisting that she wants the truth from me, to never lie to her, so I am obviously expecting the same from her. I want to trust her so much.

Could there honesly be someone like this? Truly, a great thai girl who loves someone for who they are - not for wealth etc?

The story just seems so intricate that she should be targetting millionaires not an average joe like me or my bro, if it is indeed a scam!

She knows I can corrobroate with her boyfriend (I have her house tel number) or my own brother. She knows I'm not stupid, so.... oh man...

Please... any comments or advice welcomed!

Post by **corvin1984** » January 27, 2011, 9:26 am

I'm pretty sure that this is some sort of scam mate, it all seemed O.K. till the mention of apartments and secret police.

Does she live in thailand now or is she living in the UK still ?

Post by **papaguido** » January 27, 2011, 9:43 am

bryzor wrote:Hi all,

Desperately need some advice!

I have tried to console her and told her that it has got to stop. He has to be told when he returns from holiday to cut it out. Anyway, one thing leads to another and she tells me she works in the secret police in Thailand, has a home, a beach house, bought an apartment for her own brother for £10,000, has paid £40,000 in visa costs (i.e. paying UK men in the past to pose as her spouse to gain extended visas). She also tells me that she has a brain tumour and, dependent on a test in 6 months, may only have two years to live.

Please... any comments or advice welcomed!

Beware warnings signs...specially the secret police bit. People who are "active" in such organizations usually don't go around telling others they're in the "secret police, CIA, SAS, etc. Could be she's planting the seed for a possible scam later down the road.

Post by **jackspratt** » January 27, 2011, 9:49 am

papaguido wrote: Beware warnings signs...specially the secret police bit. People who are "active" in such organizations usually don't go around telling others they're in the "secret police, CIA, SAS, etc.

Correct - generally they wait until they have retired to Pattaya.

Post by **maaka** » January 27, 2011, 10:09 am

you are asking me/us to judge someone from your appraisal of her, she may be quite legit, but there are a couple of warning lights flashing in my head..I have had the brain turmor one thrown at me before on dating sites with thai girls., why because I supposed it sounds serious and automatically wins a person over, and yet is not visible to the naked eye, so therefore cant be verified, unless you have a doctor who is the pillar of society, and he has an xray of her sweet head..

the secret police one also perks up my ears. yes there are special police units, and generally but not all of the female personal in those squads are built like rugby players, her passport should have her occupation on it, and she should have plenty of ID with a pic of her in a police uniform. or camo gear..have a play fight with her, and if she gets you in a half Nelson without any effort, then maybe she is telling the truth..take her out to a pistol club, she should know how to handle a hand gun if she is in the police force..

she has a man, yet she is kissing you only after a couple of days. I wouldnt be getting to close. I would be keeping my heart in my pocket for awhile yet..

Post by **Frankie 1** » January 27, 2011, 10:14 am

I knew a girl six years ago, same story about brain tumor, fake address and occupation (including business cards and phone numbers), etcetera. Same age, so could even be the same girl.

Emotional blackmail is their way of getting you involved. After a while they won't have to ask you for money, you will start to offer her money out of pity. If you won't fall for that, they will drop you and move on to the next victim.

Post by **pienmash** » January 27, 2011, 10:17 am

bryzor wrote:Hi all,

Desperately need some advice!

My brother introduced me to a thai girl two weeks ago. He worked with her 5 years ago (as her boss) and has had a close friendship with her since.

He asked me to meet up with her because she has very few friends in the UK. She is the same age as me, 33. As a side note, my bro has a bit of an infatuation with her (as I have learned from her), but as he is married he hasn't crossed that line. Personally I think he's just introduced us to keep her close, if you get my drift!

Anyway, my bro has gone on holiday for two weeks. I drop this thai girl a message and we go out. She tells me the second she saw me she knew I had a good heart and am a nice person who she can trust. Within 30 mins she asks me to go see her in Thailand. She already has a UK boyfriend (five years strong) but their relationship has drifted apart. She lives with him and his parents while in the UK. The boyfriend is aware that they're more like siblings now than anything so if she met someone new who could give her what she wants he would be upset but happy for her.

She tells me she's only interested in someone to love her. Not how much money they have, or if they own a house or what they look like, just someone to trust. She seems very polite, down-to-earth, confident, lovely.

I have seen her multiple times now over the past few days and we have become very close. But I have also learned that my bro is crazy over her, threatening to kill himself if she doesn't reply to hi calls/texts etc! She has cried on my shoulder multiple times asking me what she can do. She feels bad, while with her boyfriend she has my bro's pressure and intense texts of such emotional blackmailing nature.

I have tried to console her and told her that it has got to stop. He has to be told when he returns from holiday to cut it out. Anyway, one thing leads to another and she tells me she works in the secret police in Thailand, has a home, a beach house, bought an apartment for her own brother for £10,000, has paid £40,000 in visa costs (i.e. paying UK men in the past to pose as her spouse to gain extended visas). She also tells me that she has a brain tumour and, dependent on a test in 6 months, may only have two years to live.

By the way, she's not from Pattaya or Bangkok, I think it's much more of a smaller, quiter 'normal' location! I need to find this out!

Anyway, she says that my bro can confirm all this - she can tell that I find a lot very difficult to believe. Apparently he has spoken to her doctor on the phone regarding her tumour!

As you can imagine this has just blown me away. I am so confused.

Until she asks me for something I'm just seeing what happens. I mean I have been to Malaysia, Thailand, Hong Kong, Bali, India, Singapore etc - I am familiar with how deep scams can get but this one just seems immense! Like it couldn't be made up!

She hasn't asked me for anything, no money or somewhere to stay, but she has kissed me and now wants to see me more and more. I really like her and am fascinated by her. If my bro didn't know her I would be giving her a wide berth! But bleh... She keeps insisting that she wants the truth from me, to never lie to her, so I am obviously expecting the same from her. I want to trust her so much.

Could there honesly be someone like this? Truly, a great thai girl who loves someone for who they are - not for wealth etc?

The story just seems so intricate that she should be targetting millionaires not an average joe like me or my bro, if it is indeed a scam!

She knows I can corrobroate with her boyfriend (I have her house tel number) or my own brother. She knows I'm not stupid, so.... oh man...

Please... any comments or advice welcomed!

Hello Bryzor.

I have read your post a couple of times to take it all in , my opinion FWIW - appears to be a variation on a theme used by scammers with extra spice thrown in with the secret police n tumour , im ticking the scam box.

mASH .... PI

Post by **jai yen yen** » January 27, 2011, 10:33 am

Probably a scam but she is bad news anyway, walk away and you will be glad you did. Stay with her and you will regret it.

Post by **21again** » January 27, 2011, 10:44 am

Tick that scam box for me too, apart from the secret agent stuff a doctor is not going to discuss any medical discussion over the phone with a stranger.Its getting into a bit of a love quad thing one, one day good be in National Newspapers.

Post by **BobHelm** » January 27, 2011, 11:27 am

I think you are asking the wrong question bryzor.
The question you should be asking yourself is what possible satisfaction & pleasure could come out of me having a relationship with this girl.
1. She is either a liar & so should be avoided like the plague or
2. She is telling the truth & has severe & incurable health issues.
So in either case, the answer is
NONE.

Post by **red67** » January 27, 2011, 11:31 am

=D>

BobHelm wrote:I think you are asking the wrong question bryzor.
The question you should be asking yourself is what possible satisfaction & pleasure could come out of me having a relationship with this girl.
1. She is either a liar & so should be avoided like the plague or
2. She is telling the truth & has severe & incurable health issues.
So in either case, the answer is
NONE.

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> (Is this a scam?) eeerrrrhhhh yes, or maybe the sick buffalo fell thru the roof and hit her on the head

Post by **semperfiguy** » January 27, 2011, 2:30 pm

The girl is already in a commited relationship. Regardless of what she says about that relationship, the wisdom from God's Word below is the only answer I would need to make me turn tail and run as fast as I could:

Proverbs 6
Lessons for Daily Life

32 But the man who commits adultery is an utter fool,
for he destroys himself.
33 He will be wounded and disgraced.
His shame will never be erased.
34 For the woman’s jealous husband will be furious,
and he will show no mercy when he takes revenge.
35 He will accept no compensation,
nor be satisfied with a payoff of any size.

God Bless!

Post by **trubrit** » January 27, 2011, 3:28 pm

If you think it's a scam, it probably is. You don't have to ask us . :-"

Post by **arjay** » January 27, 2011, 4:16 pm

It all sounds too complicated to me (and unnecessarily so). I would be asking myself do I really want to get involved in this scenario. My answer would be no, and I would distance myself as far as possible from the situation as soon as possible, and if necessary change my tel no. I would also tip my brother off as to my thinking and strongly suggest he did the same and left well alone.

If one spends time with an attractive female one is likely to feel some involvement, particularly if kisses are exchanged. I would get my kisses and intimate moments elsewhere.

And as suggested, she will inevitably have played down her other relationship(s).

My advice - stay away and create distance between you, and look somewhere else for someone else.

Post by **bryzor** » January 27, 2011, 6:51 pm

Wow, thank you for all the supportive replies!

I have seen her again a few times since. She is constantly in touch with me. She has explained more about her life, her family, her daughter, her ex-boyfriends. It is extremely detailed. She shows me pictures of the people and places she talks about on her Facebook profile, and on her Macbook.

She knows I'm not rich, I don't even have my house. So why target me?

She repeatedly discusses how she hates criminals, liars, bad people. She's now met my mom, and my dad and seems happy to talk and chat with them. She never seems to feel weary about being put in a situation where her cover will be blown.

She has now told me that next month her boss from Bangkok (police) is flying to the UK as he reckons he can get her undercover work working closeby. Apparently due to the increase in asian/drugs crime around our UK city, she'd be a perfect candidate. She tells me that if she gets the job, they'll provide accomodation and take care of any visa issue. She has asked if we're still seeing each other by then, if I'd be her full-time boyfriend.

So again, she's not asking me to do anything, she's doing it herself.

She has now showed me the scars which she claims are bullet and stab wounds and her shins are mashed to crap, apparently from where she trains/kicks.

I am keeping "my heart in my pocket", but I am very much into her at the same time!

Post by **old-timer** » January 27, 2011, 9:14 pm

The only one that got this right is jon (CC). he's seeing it the same way as OT. I can set up an IP adress fom anywhere in the world, set up a membership with any forum i'm banned from, and then entice you with some story for some sort of responce. Challenge the OP with a load of local knowledge. see what he says. Or go ahead and get sucked in.

OT............... $\:D/$

Post by **DermotC** » January 27, 2011, 9:50 pm

old-timer wrote:The only one that got this right is jon (CC). he's seeing it the same way as OT. I can set up an IP adress fom anywhere in the world, set up a membership with any forum i'm banned from, and then entice you with some story for some sort of responce. Challenge the OP with a load of local knowledge. see what he says. Or go ahead and get sucked in.

OT............... $\:D/$

Im glad im not the only one thinking 'Troll'!

Post by **jackspratt** » January 27, 2011, 9:51 pm

O/T and Dermot are correct.

The OP is a troll.

Post by **Khun Paul** » January 27, 2011, 10:09 pm

This is in my view total B/S, go with your gut feeling SCAM and fraud springs to mind amongst other more detailed comments which I will not post. But I am sure you get the drift.

Post by **thrilled** » January 27, 2011, 10:58 pm

Idon't have alot of patience.Theres to many women that don't have this kind of baggage.I'm not into drama.I wouldn't have met her from my brother.

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