GreenLeaf?

[wazza]

Anyway, why on earth the successful businessman from England who's living here can't afford a good decent meal for the same price of a bag of fish'n chip back home ?

=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

[MALC]

aeaub i take my hat off to you sir. very well replied.

[jimboLV]

Anyway, why on earth the successful businessman from England who's living here can't afford a good decent meal for the same price of a bag of fish'n chip back home ?

Aha! Now we come to the heart of the matter. Let me paraphrase: “You farangs are all rich anyway. Why do you object overpaying for your meals?”

Well, I will answer that for you aeaub. First of all, many of us are not wealthy, whatever your stereotypical mind may lead you to believe. Many of us have to watch our pennies just like the average Thai. And those that are well off did not get that way by patronizing businesses that gouge the customer just because “they can afford it”.

I have to qualify what I say, because I never had the chance to patronize your fine establishment. I am going by what others on here have had to say, and from your own words. I have found so far that in Udon, except for a couple of bars that shall remain nameless, restaurants that hope to cash in on the “rich farangs” by offering a mediocre selection of overpriced western food, are doomed to failure.

[beer monkey]

to bleet on about the U D centre opposite affecting thier business , well sorry , but did they not know what was happening to that site ? did they not realise parking was non existant in that area ? where have they been , mars .

Well,saint..It almost sounds like you were so happy we finally closed. or you just did not read every sentence of my post. I'd already told that when we rent this plot it was nothing there just big piece of green grass land all around, not even the Korean style buffet Udon Nua Yang that sit next to us, It was 3 years ago so we were there long before UD sign contract with railway authority and these things would not happened to us if they stick to the original business plan they proposed. The area opposite us suppose to be HOTEL repeat HOTEL! with garden and parking lot not ticky tacky tent market like this. Yes we do have inside information because my dad were the highest rank in his government office in Udon, but no one can predict what will happen to the plot in the next 2-3 year even the greatest fortune teller in Thailand. (I should've hire someone who can from England, though)

I'm not from mars, but where I came from is much closer to Udon than where you came from.
and where I came from people don't enjoy the other's failure.
Anyway, why on earth the successful businessman from England who's living here can't afford a good decent meal for the same price of a bag of fish'n chip back home ?

1st class post....very well put together.... i read it 3 times it was so good.

[mally]

Well I'll miss the place, it was always a nice place to eat on my trips to UT, and being in "holiday mode" the prices didn't seem too much, dearer than some other venues, but the food, place and service was better, it always had a "clean feel" to it which I liked. Yes, I'll miss it.
Thanks for the pleasent experience in the past Mink, and I hope your place in KK continues to do well.
The other place I liked was (is) Good Everything, so it looks like they'll be getting more service from me now.

[beer monkey]

aeaub i take my hat off to you sir. very well replied.

Mink is a lady.. anyway Malc takes his hat off to you madam, and one of the best posts i have read for a while.

[saint]

im neither happy , or unhappy that you closed . you closure affects me in no way what so ever . however , now you inform us that you had inside information about the land opposite , im pleased nepotism failed , cuz theres far too much of it in thailand . but as a native of this wonderful country , i would of thought you would be aware that nothing is writen in stone , and plans do get changed , usualy just after money has changed , hands that is !!!!! where did i say in my post i could not afford a decent meal ? what i did say was , you were on the more expensive side of udon prices , tucked out the way , and that if you had better information and been more central , you may of survived this current financial situation . your food was good , and the concept was good . the buffet was popular amongst the farangs i spoke to , and i felt that as a business man myself , cutting the buffet out altogether and reducing the opening hours , signaled to me trouble , and the begining of the end . by the way ,i appear to have been right !!!!!

[wazza]

1-0 full time to Greenleaf

[wazza]

Perhaps Jimbo and Saint could set up a consulting pratice in Udon .

They could provide independent assessments on all the Expat business's here in Udon, review their business plans, do the SWATs , projections, cash flow analysis, etc

[jimboLV]

Perhaps Jimbo and Saint could set up a consulting pratice in Udon .

They could provide independent assessments on all the Expat business's here in Udon, review their business plans, do the SWATs , projections, cash flow analysis, etc

But then I would have to charge, and nobody here could afford my rates. On here, my wisdom is free, and probably worth exactly what you pay for it. Actually I was a consultant for many years developing business plans, although not in the restaurant business, and was very successful at it. I have no desire to go to work again. Besides, my O-A Visa will not permit me to do any kind of work, even cut my own grass. At least that’s what I tell the wife.

[Ray.Charles]

"Besides, my O-A Visa will not permit me to do any kind of work, even cut my own grass. At least that’s what I tell the wife"
nice. Plus, I tell mine that they told me not to cut my nails, not to wash the dishes, get a massage every other day, ,....

[Aardvark]

im neither happy , or unhappy that you closed . you closure affects me in no way what so ever . however , now you inform us that you had inside information about the land opposite , im pleased nepotism failed , cuz theres far too much of it in thailand . but as a native of this wonderful country , i would of thought you would be aware that nothing is writen in stone , and plans do get changed , usualy just after money has changed , hands that is !!!!! where did i say in my post i could not afford a decent meal ? what i did say was , you were on the more expensive side of udon prices , tucked out the way , and that if you had better information and been more central , you may of survived this current financial situation . your food was good , and the concept was good . the buffet was popular amongst the farangs i spoke to , and i felt that as a business man myself , cutting the buffet out altogether and reducing the opening hours , signaled to me trouble , and the begining of the end . by the way ,i appear to have been right !!!!!

I think your being a bit rough on these people saint, especially since you never graced the place with your presence in the first place ?? And what's wrong with knowing people in high places, it happens all over the world every day and if you were half the "Businessman" you would have us believe you are you would have done many a deal over the years with your insider information, so don't get up someone else's nose for doing the same. As for tucked away these people were 50 metres from the night market and 70 meters from the railway station, AND supplied free parking for their customers, which in it's self is rare. As far as expensive prices are concerned, Bt89 for all you could eat, with about a dozen meals and sweets to choose from, mate you need your head read

[wazza]

Well if they cant afford they shouldnt start up, wise experience i imagine

[Aardvark]

Reread the posts wazza and then in the name of the fish n chip lady, " please explane "

[saint]

AA , please explain to me , how i could say that the food was good and the concept was good , if i had never graced the place with my presence ? yes they had parking , but also used the lack of parking in the area as one of the reasons thier business failed , so ? and i agree with you the buffet was great value , but they took the buffet of a few months before they closed , which if you read way back , greenleaf restaurant thread , i thought was a bad idea and suggested that maybe they should consider doing it early evening , if they were going to shut during the day , for reasons i explained then . finaly , no , ive never had inside information in any businesses i had in the U K .

[papaguido]

AA , please explain to me , how i could say that the food was good and the concept was good , if i had never graced the place with my presence ? yes they had parking , but also used the lack of parking in the area as one of the reasons thier business failed , so ? and i agree with you the buffet was great value , but they took the buffet of a few months before they closed , which if you read way back , greenleaf restaurant thread , i thought was a bad idea and suggested that maybe they should consider doing it early evening , if they were going to shut during the day , for reasons i explained then . finaly , no , ive never had inside information in any businesses i had in the U K .

I'm inclined to agree with Doug on this point. I enjoyed the buffet and thought it was a great value for the quality of food. I ate there 2 or 3 times a week and more often then not it was usually packed. On one occasion my wife on and I had to wait on a table. It seemed to be really popular with the locals and would only see farangs on occasion. Anyway, upon hearing the news that they were doing away with the buffet I recall telling my wife that this probably wouldn't be a good move. Sorry to see it go.

[BRIAN1874]

Sad to see it go.And what a superb post Mink.All the best to you and I wish you every success in your future and existing business enterprise. =D> =D>

[rct]

The Green Leaf lunch buffet appeared to be a "loss leader" in the hope customers would repeat visits at night for the more profitable meals and drinks. Green Leaf could not sustain the loss on the lunch if their evening business was not generating enough profits.

In members reviews, I posted "Im Dee" 89 baht buffet which is same price both lunch at dinner in a rather stylish atmosphere with parking, located on Udon Dutsadi Road 200 meters from Prajak Circle. Have yet to try the evening, though the lunch is getting us hooked! We wonder how they can make a profit at 89 baht, even if they are doing a large volume of business, when everyone seems to eat as much as we do, which is a few rounds! Though the occasional chubby guy comes who eats 4 plates heaped with fried rice and nothing else.

[123sawaddee]

sooooo many restaurants at udon thani, so many food at night markets and so many fast food restaurants coming like mcdonalds. same as in germany. fresh cooking restaurants are gone, closed coz people want eat cheap and fast - no time to enjoy a dresh lunch or dinner. all taste of foods are the same. but now at thailand more and more western food and fast food. 10 years ago people was slim....now more and more fat, why? eat junk and fast food more and more....so pitty. i was many times at green leaf and i enjoyed always. but mink is right...economy is down and people save money. want eat cheap and drink 1 bottle of water together....not possible to make enough profit, good luck at KK

[123sawaddee]

....don´t forget, lifestyle at thailand going more and more expencive. to get a comfortable life its need a very good pension- min. 50000-60000baht if you want not eat each day a soup. western food is too expencive....a mcdonalds menu just now 240bath in germany is 1 big burger, 1 big frites and 1 big coke 0,5l...and in thailand? i was very frightened about this trend. i liked green leaf too coz had very good quality by buffet...and 89baht was not too much. a delicious pizza from wood stove in germany is just now up 300baht...so i can´t understand why i must pay same price in thailand by pizza hut