Obama: Dead in the Water...is it true?

[merchant seaman]

Well seems Obama and the U.S. have been snubbed by many countries over Snowden. This President has no credibilty left.

[FrazeeDK]

Yeah, Hong Kong's "autonomous" government got rid of the hot potato, likely at Beijing's urging to poke the U.S. in the eye.. It appears Snowden is in Moscow's airport.... Do ya suppose the ol' Vladimir will equally pull a Moe Howard and poke Obama in the eye?? And if so, Snowden purportedly will take his 4 laptops and many thumb drives and fly to Cuba, then Venezuala, then Ecuador.... Again, this fellow worked a grand total of four weeks at his contract job in Hawaii.. If he's totin' as much info as the news media speculates, he planned this whole thing out months ago....

[WBU ALUM]

Yeah, Hong Kong's "autonomous" government got rid of the hot potato, likely at Beijing's urging to poke the U.S. in the eye.. It appears Snowden is in Moscow's airport.... Do ya suppose the ol' Vladimir will equally pull a Moe Howard and poke Obama in the eye?? And if so, Snowden purportedly will take his 4 laptops and many thumb drives and fly to Cuba, then Venezuala, then Ecuador.... Again, this fellow worked a grand total of four weeks at his contract job in Hawaii.. If he's totin' as much info as the news media speculates, he planned this whole thing out months ago....

Like I've said from the beginning. If he violated his oath. If he is accused of espionage, then bring him up on charges and give him the same due process and consideration that Holder and Obama want to give to terrorists in custody. Maybe like they called the Fort Hood Massacre "workplace violence", they'll classify this as "workplace snitching." Just a thought. Gotta be consistent, ya know.


Snowden would be considered a whistle-blower by this administration if he had snitched on Obama's enemies. Instead, Snowden is labeled a traitor.

And even with this one guy, it doesn't erase Fast & Furious, Benghazi, unconstitutional appointments, Cabinet members and appointees lying to Congress, the IRS Scandal, the AP and Rosen wiretappings, the NSA over-reach, etc. etc. etc. et al. What a circus, huh?

[merchant seaman]

Well it's rumored that Obama is going to tackle all these scandals head on. Just as soon as he returns from the family vacation in Africa.

[WBU ALUM]

Well it's rumored that Obama is going to tackle all these scandals head on. Just as soon as he returns from the family vacation in Africa.

Kinda like attacking all that joblessness with those mythical green jobs? I can still hear his BS nonsense pronouncements about not sleeping until all Americans are back to work. Then he was off to the golf course or another vacation.

The only thing that's gone up on his watch is welfare, food stamps, gas prices, energy costs, disability, unemployment compensation, the debt and the annual deficits. Oh, and the cost of his vacations -- to places like Africa -- when Americans are still languishing in what has become the longest and worst recovery, at least, since the Great Depression.

Bush used to catch hell from the media for going on vacation to his ranch in Crawford, TX. Don't hear a peep out of those hypocrites since the Child Emperor's regime took power.

[gudtymchuk]

Kinda like attacking all that joblessness with those mythical green jobs? I can still hear his BS nonsense pronouncements about not sleeping until all Americans are back to work. Then he was off to the golf course or another vacation.

WBU, you wouldn't per chance be referencing all those Green Energy Companies in the following list would ya, many of which were large Obama contributors?
For those who only hear about these failing companies one by one, the following is a list of all the clean energy companies supported by President Obama’s stimulus that are now failing or have filed for bankruptcy. The liberal media hopes you’ve forgotten about all of them except Solyndra.

The Green Energy Scam

Evergreen Solar
SpectraWatt
Solyndra (received $535 million)
Beacon Power (received $43 million)
AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy
Nevada Geothermal (received $98.5 million)
SunPower (received $1.5 billion)
First Solar (received $1.46 billion)
Babcock & Brown (an Australian company which received $178 million)
Ener1 (subsidiary EnerDel received $118.5 million)
Amonix (received 5.9 million)
The National Renewable Energy Lab
Fisker Automotive
Abound Solar (received $400 million)
Chevy Volt (taxpayers basically own GM)
Solar Trust of America
A123 Systems (received $279 million)
Willard & Kelsey Solar Group (received $6 million)
Johnson Controls (received $299 million)
Schneider Electric (received $86 million)

[WBU ALUM]

Kinda like attacking all that joblessness with those mythical green jobs? I can still hear his BS nonsense pronouncements about not sleeping until all Americans are back to work. Then he was off to the golf course or another vacation.

WBU, you wouldn't per chance be referencing all those Green Energy Companies in the following list would ya, many of which were large Obama contributors?
For those who only hear about these failing companies one by one, the following is a list of all the clean energy companies supported by President Obama’s stimulus that are now failing or have filed for bankruptcy. The liberal media hopes you’ve forgotten about all of them except Solyndra.

The Green Energy Scam

Evergreen Solar
SpectraWatt
Solyndra (received $535 million)
Beacon Power (received $43 million)
AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy
Nevada Geothermal (received $98.5 million)
SunPower (received $1.5 billion)
First Solar (received $1.46 billion)
Babcock & Brown (an Australian company which received $178 million)
Ener1 (subsidiary EnerDel received $118.5 million)
Amonix (received 5.9 million)
The National Renewable Energy Lab
Fisker Automotive
Abound Solar (received $400 million)
Chevy Volt (taxpayers basically own GM)
Solar Trust of America
A123 Systems (received $279 million)
Willard & Kelsey Solar Group (received $6 million)
Johnson Controls (received $299 million)
Schneider Electric (received $86 million)

Yes, that's them. Millions of taxpayer dollars GIVEN to these Obama donors to start companies using technology that in some cases hasn't even been invented yet.

The only shocking thing is that Obama didn't try to ALSO bail them out when they started filing for bankruptcy. Obama is famous for doubling down on FAILURE.

[LilRed]

You guys are wrong.

Johnson Controls and Schneider Electric? There's several others on your list that are NOT failing.


If you had a clue what you were talking about, you'd know that both these companies are doing just fine... One up, and, one down, in the last year...

ATB

[jackspratt]

Kinda like attacking all that joblessness with those mythical green jobs? I can still hear his BS nonsense pronouncements about not sleeping until all Americans are back to work. Then he was off to the golf course or another vacation.

WBU, you wouldn't per chance be referencing all those Green Energy Companies in the following list would ya, many of which were large Obama contributors?
For those who only hear about these failing companies one by one, the following is a list of all the clean energy companies supported by President Obama’s stimulus that are now failing or have filed for bankruptcy. The liberal media hopes you’ve forgotten about all of them except Solyndra.

The Green Energy Scam

Evergreen Solar
SpectraWatt
Solyndra (received $535 million)
Beacon Power (received $43 million)
AES’ subsidiary Eastern Energy
Nevada Geothermal (received $98.5 million)
SunPower (received $1.5 billion)
First Solar (received $1.46 billion)
Babcock & Brown (an Australian company which received $178 million)
Ener1 (subsidiary EnerDel received $118.5 million)
Amonix (received 5.9 million)
The National Renewable Energy Lab
Fisker Automotive
Abound Solar (received $400 million)
Chevy Volt (taxpayers basically own GM)
Solar Trust of America
A123 Systems (received $279 million)
Willard & Kelsey Solar Group (received $6 million)
Johnson Controls (received $299 million)
Schneider Electric (received $86 million)

Ah! - the folly of believing everything you read in the conservative media. So beloved of some on here.

Without the inclination to do an in-depth analysis of the companies you name, I will start with a view from another source, which I trust to be far more reliable than the Heritage Foundation from where your (unattributed and incorrect) figures emanated:

http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/22/news/ec ... index.html

Plus another view:

http://breakingenergy.com/2012/10/05/di ... -bankrupt/

[WBU ALUM]

You guys are wrong.

Johnson Controls and Schneider Electric? There's several others on your list that are NOT failing.

Several others? Which ones? Or just your opinion?

If you had a clue what you were talking about, you'd know that both these companies are doing just fine... One up, and, one down, in the last year...

Ah, here we go with that "I don't have anything personal against you" guy named LilRed. And he starts off the sentence with "If you had a clue what you were talking about ..." My, my, my. Can't just say "I found evidence that some of these companies are doing ok." And then PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE. Nope, can't do it like that. Gotta make it personal. I sure didn't have a clue about what you were writing when you were trying to be cute with your Ebonics. (You admitted that, I think. )

Yeah, those two company's stock charts are doing just fine. One up and one down. All I see is that one has a higher stock price than the other. Stock price is doing just fine for one. Stock price isn't doing so hot for the other.

And what does "doing just fine" mean to you? (That's rhetorical. I don't want to have to suffer through another Ebonics diatribe.) High stock price or profitability? High stock price or laying off people? High stock price and full employment don't always go hand in hand with profitability, do they. Enron ring a bell? There's lots of other examples, but that's the company the Libs love to hate. I figured you'd get it if I used Enron as an example. Their stock price was based on NOTHING.


President Obama’s Taxpayer-Backed Green Energy Failures
http://blog.heritage.org/2012/10/18/pre ... -failures/

As of October of 2012:

So far, 34 companies that were offered federal support from taxpayers are faltering — either having gone bankrupt or laying off workers or heading for bankruptcy. This list includes only those companies that received federal money from the Obama Administration’s Department of Energy and other agencies. The amount of money indicated does not reflect how much was actually received or spent but how much was offered. The amount also does not include other state, local, and federal tax credits and subsidies, which push the amount of money these companies have received from taxpayers even higher.

The list is there in the article. (I know you won't read it. Evil stuff there. Shame on them.) An asterisk indicates those companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

Thirty-four companies! That is astounding! I didn't even see your guys from Schneider on that list.

[gudtymchuk]

Haha, hilariously the Stocker and Mr Ebonics couldn't wait to pounch when they thought they had something..... and even funnier using CNN as a reliable source to attempt to refute the facts. That would be the same as calling Chris Mathews a "Journalist". Next time dig some more reliable facts from the likes of George Soros or Rachal Maddow :-" :-"

[jackspratt]

Haha, hilariously the Stocker and Mr Ebonics couldn't wait to pounch when they thought they had something..... and even funnier using CNN as a reliable source to attempt to refute the facts. That would be the same as calling Chris Mathews a "Journalist". Next time dig some more reliable facts from the likes of George Soros or Rachal Maddow :-" :-"

Unfortunately, your earlier post was a fact-free zone, so therefore beyond refutation.

ps what's a Stocker? Or a pounch for that matter? And who is Rachal Maddow?

[WBU ALUM]

DEMOCRAT BLASTS OBAMA for his $100 million Africa Trip.

Obama's trip matches the amount that the State of Georgia will be hit in expansion of funds.

It's called Elitist. It's called "Do as I say, not as I do."

And to think Bush used be vilified by the press for going to Crawford, TX.

[merchant seaman]

Maybe Obama believes that when he returns from Africa someone else will have solved all his scandal problems while he was away playing and spending the tax payers money.

[WBU ALUM]

Maybe Obama believes that when he returns from Africa someone else will have solved all his scandal problems while he was away playing and spending the tax payers money.

He definitely hopes it all goes away.

He hasn't addressed much of anything to strengthen jobs and the economy, and he's had that to deal with since the day he took office. He said he wasn't going to sleep until every American was back to work. He's done the exact opposite of what is needed to spur growth. All of the uncertainty and government control over the private sector has done nothing but create doubt on the part of business owners and investors. No one is going to spend money in the environment that he has created.

When firemen are called to put out the fire, they don't throw gasoline on it.

[LilRed]

WBU/GTC:

And, other gentlemen, as may be following this:


Since many of us disagree with your (WBU/GTC's) assessment of President Obama's performance, see url:

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/24/polit ... ?hpt=us_c2


What say we start a new thread, or, retitle this one, something like: President Obama's Performance: Tell Us What You REALLY Think?


I note that, contrary to your earlier statements, the IRS did not target the unbalanced rightists alone... They targeted the unbalanced liberals, and others, with equal fervor. This suggests, that, may be, President Obama did not personally target any PAC's.

I, think ALL TAX EXEMPT organizations should receive serious scrutiny from the government.

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/06/24/polit ... ?hpt=us_c2

In closing this out, I admit it, WBU/GTC, I did stoop to you all's level in my last.


ATB

[WBU ALUM]

What say we start a new thread, or, retitle this one, something like: President Obama's Performance: Tell Us What You REALLY Think?

Do whatever you want.

I note that, contrary to your earlier statements, the IRS did not target the unbalanced rightists alone... They targeted the unbalanced liberals, and others, with equal fervor. This suggests, that, may be, President Obama did not personally target any PAC's.

I, think ALL TAX EXEMPT organizations should receive serious scrutiny from the government.

Yes, it's called providing cover for the Child Emperor's IRS. The targeting of conservative groups began in 2010, and there is documentation to show it. These Lib groups just started whining and complaining AFTER the hearings began. I think they're lying. There was no EXTRA scrutiny given to Lib groups because of their politics. THAT is the big difference. The delays and extra scrutiny was given to conservative groups based on their names and political affiliations.

The laws currently on the books for tax exempt organizations is all that needs to be done. It has worked for years -- until the administration of Barack Hussein Obama and his targeting of political enemies.

In closing this out, I admit it, WBU/GTC, I did stoop to you all's level in my last.

That's YOUR level.

I've never questioned anyone's intelligence, insinuated their incompetence (other than your Ebonics writings), thought their ideas were 'stupid' or 'BS'. I defy you to find it because it doesn't exist. Oh, I'm sure you'll pull out something with me telling someone that they're a race-baiter or a Lib or using the Marxist Playbook. That identifies their actions and words, not their personal level of intelligence or competence.

Bottom line, after your big Ebonics joke, I don't take you very seriously, LilRed.

[FrazeeDK]

nah, I suggest the thread be renamed WBU versus Lil' Red!!!

[WBU ALUM]

nah, I suggest the thread be renamed WBU versus Lil' Red!!!

And that's exactly why I don't care. LilRed -- like some others -- tries very hard to make it about me and make it personal.

It should be about the issue.

[LilRed]

FDK:


You know, that may be a very good idea... Would you consider, "impartially keeping a running score or tally"?

We'd have to agree to some rules... I don't find much useful in WBU's sites and have no desire to get into a match up that requires much time to read them. They are good, for highlighting the absence of intelligence in the authors.

C'mon, WBU, you wanna to play in public, straight up with a score keeper?


But, tell you the truth, I'd rather spend such time going head to head with Astana. A is a very, very intelligent man deserving respect...


In closing, FYVM for your thoughts on my use of ebonics.


ATB