Solar/Wind energy for the future. Forget it

[Whistler]

Next misleading statement on your part
"Most electric car batteries weigh 230KG with the new Bosch battery coming in at 190KG.

https://www.greenoptimistic.com/bosch-e ... attery-kg/

[parrot]

For those who follow greening, an interesting story at https://www.nrel.gov/buildings/assets/pdfs/53539.pdf

[noosard]

Whistler you are away with the fairies
Neither myself or Tam said anything about petrol engines compared to electric
And your post about bosche batteries is dated 2 years before mine so out of date

[Whistler]

Whistler you are away with the fairies
Neither myself or Tam said anything about petrol engines compared to electric
And your post about bosche batteries is dated 2 years before mine so out of date

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[glalt]

A bit off topic but one of my 125 AH deep cycle batteries refused to accept a full charge. I was shopping for new batteries and was about to order a set. As a last resort, I did some searching on the Internet. I found that pulse repair chargers sometimes work to bring a battery back to life. I found one named Foxsur on Lazada. I went ahead and spent the less than 500 baht and bought one. Yesterday I hooked it up and set it on the repair option. This morning I was very pleased to see the battery was fully charged. How much longer that old battery will last is another question. So far, so good.

[Khun Paul]

All this talk about Solar power etc, is fine and dandy, BUT UNTIL Governments and Builders install Solar power as a matter of course in ALL New Builds and start to retro fit other large buildings then the situation will take decades to come to fruition .
Like a Solar park I saw here with the Panels so low to the ground that grass was growing up around them, meaning that it had to be cut ,whereas putting them 8+ feet above ground level would allow grass feeders, cattle and other domestic animals to feed on the grass .
A little fore-thought is all that is needed, sadly here I see very little fore-thought always after-thoughts

[glalt]

If the government would repair the power grid problems up here in the boonies, I would not have any solar power systems. I didn't build my systems to save money or to save the earth. The grid going down nearly every day was the reason for me to spend the money. I have power 24/7 from my three small solar systems.

[Bandung_Dero]

A milestone reached in the state of South Australia through the week:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-25/ ... e/12810366

This is also relevant:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-09-02/ ... s/12622382

[glalt]

Those Tesla home systems are great. No way could I justify spending that kind of money when my deep cycle lead acid batteries are so much cheaper and work well with my cheap Chinese components.

[bluejets]

Biggest problem with the solar installs here is they are doing things on the cheap and it will prove to be a big problem down the line.
I know this as two of my old apprentices report back the goings on during the install periods.
Really is an eye opener.

As for SA, biggest problem they have is the grid system, or rather those responsible for the design/upkeep.

[Barney]

SA needs as much help as it can get with a state govt leaning to green thinking.
Transgrid have now put in motion a 1.5 billion project to erect a new overhead electrical grid system from Wagga Wagga NSW into South Aussie and also into Victoria. 4 big substations. To add additional support to the existing overhead infrastructure.
There is also a new Baroota pumped hydro system north of port perie to supply electricity and storage.


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[Bandung_Dero]

The Solar Farm in Tailem Bend SA is owned by an Indonesian Consortium who sells the power generated to the Snowy Mountains Authority in NSW. They are responsible for how the power is managed on the grid.

[Whistler]

The Solar Farm in Tailem Bend SA is owned by an Indonesian Consortium who sells the power generated to the Snowy Mountains Authority in NSW. They are responsible for how the power is managed on the grid.

No. AEMO is responsible of how power is managed on the grid, and they are doing a dreadful job in doing so.

[glalt]

That system is more sophisticated than the ones along the coast in the south of Thailand. That water in the oversized pond is pumped up there with windmills that produce no electricity, only pump water. There is a pond overflow that drains excess water out of the pond for when the wind pumps more water than needed. The water going back down powers the turbine generator 24/7. I thought it was quite clever. They were producing DC power and were looking at a way to produce AC power because the voltage was so consistent.

[Whistler]

SA needs as much help as it can get with a state govt leaning to green thinking.
Transgrid have now put in motion a 1.5 billion project to erect a new overhead electrical grid system from Wagga Wagga NSW into South Aussie and also into Victoria. 4 big substations. To add additional support to the existing overhead infrastructure.
There is also a new Baroota pumped hydro system north of port perie to supply electricity and storage.


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Barney, Tamada claims this type of system on the same principles being deployed in Northern NSW is all hot air, you can not possibly be correct.

[Whistler]

Can this new-fangled NSW energy facility run on BS too or are they similarly confused about the technology they espouse?

Still think it is BS? Experts in renewables do not get confused, that is why they are experts.

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim ... 56c30.html

[tamada]

Can this new-fangled NSW energy facility run on BS too or are they similarly confused about the technology they espouse?

Still think it is BS? Experts in renewables do not get confused, that is why they are experts.

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim ... 56c30.html

Interesting read, thanks for the follow up.

[Whistler]

Can this new-fangled NSW energy facility run on BS too or are they similarly confused about the technology they espouse?

Still think it is BS? Experts in renewables do not get confused, that is why they are experts.

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim ... 56c30.html

Interesting read, thanks for the follow up.

LFMAO

[AlexO]

Can this new-fangled NSW energy facility run on BS too or are they similarly confused about the technology they espouse?

Still think it is BS? Experts in renewables do not get confused, that is why they are experts.

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim ... 56c30.html

Interesting read, thanks for the follow up.

Agree with most of what you say, we really need to get away from battery storage even if future batteries become more efficient and last longer. One point to note though is that map of 600K+ sites for hydro schemes shows an awful lot of them around coastal fringe areas which are the predominate population centers as well. Huge areas of our habitable planet will not support these hydro schemes either as the terrain is pancake flat so new dams and flooded areas are going to be as controversial as huge wind farms or PV fields. Just too many people on the Planet now, dont know if there is a solution.

[tamada]

Can this new-fangled NSW energy facility run on BS too or are they similarly confused about the technology they espouse?

Still think it is BS? Experts in renewables do not get confused, that is why they are experts.

https://www.smh.com.au/environment/clim ... 56c30.html

Interesting read, thanks for the follow up.

LFMAO

There were two Whistlers, one never knew his mother.