The Sunday Times
February 8, 2009
Briefing: Surveillance: They’re watching ...
A House of Lords report has warned that the growth of surveillance is one of the most significant changes in British society since the second world war.
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ROUTINE PRYING Lords warn surveillance is having a big effect on UK
The House of Lords last week published a scathing report into surveillance in the UK, warning that monitoring the everyday activities of innocent individuals was becoming “pervasive†and “routineâ€. The report noted both the speed of change that had led to surveillance becoming “an inescapable part of life in the UK†and the fundamental effect this was having on society – “one of the most significant changes in the life of the nation since the end of the second world warâ€. Lord Norton of Louth, a member of the committee, said: “This whole area is moving so fast. Even as we were working on this report, we found we were running to keep still. New issues, like the loss of the [child benefit] data discs, would come up all the time.â€
MAJOR CULPRITS Huge DNA database and CCTV highlighted
Among the developments criticised was the growth of the national DNA database which the Lords said could ultimately be used “for malign purposesâ€. The government must, they insisted, ensure that DNA profiles of innocent individuals are not retained indefinitely. “The DNA database was never meant to be used in this way and the Lords are clearly very distressed by its current use,†said Simon Davies of Privacy International. “It was meant for major, convicted criminals, not people who forgot to buy a train ticket once.†The widespread use of CCTV was also queried, with the Lords pointing out that nobody could even tell them how many cameras there were in the UK.
LACK OF KNOWLEDGE Public do not realise the implications of laws
The importance of privacy, an issue which the Lords emphasise is not fully understood by the public, is reiterated throughout the report. “Many of these surveillance practices are unknown to most people and their potential consequences are not fully appreciated,†they advise. Every day an astonishing range of information is gathered, extending from phone calls, internet usage and e-mails to the Oyster cards used on London’s transport system and store loyalty cards – and the Lords warn that this data may be exploited in ways the public would not anticipate. Increasing interaction between the public and private sector exacerbates this problem. Government utilisation of airline passenger manifests to record entry and exit into the UK is one example.
‘CATEGORY BLACK’ Britain ranks with worst in world for privacy
In 2004, Richard Thomas, the information commissioner at the time, warned that Britain was “sleepwalking†into a surveillance society. Davies believes the situation has got worse. “When we categorise the privacy ratings of all the countries, Britain is already in the black category along with some pretty unpleasant societies,†he said. “Next year we will have to find a darker category.†Some of the worst examples identified by the Lords involved the use of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act (RIPA) by local councils to “stop fly tipping, reduce dog fouling, and investigate fraudulent school place applicationsâ€. The Lords recommended that RIPA only be used for the investigation of serious criminal offences.
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We introduced much of this to support Shrub. Does the puppet now have to wait for the puppet master again, or can we get rid of it? Biometric passports don't make much sense without a single biometric passport reader.
Phi Payne, Sheffield,
The consequence of people living if fear is that the creativity of people is blocked.
za, London,
I imagine the problems won't be that 'they' have all this info on 'us', per se...more likely that any incorrectly-ascribed information will get magnified until it is out of hand and the individual concerned will have no way of corecting it.
Maurice Smith, London,
Barry - it won't be a name and number tattoo, it will be an RF chip implanted in the back of your neck at birth.
I'm glad I'm just a resident here. The moment my wife completes her studies, we're outta here.
Scott Deagan, London, United Kingdom
everyone says how bad it must be to live in China, hey no secret police here not a lot of camera' watching your every move. just watching bank ATM's mainly. Ha I feel sad to say that I was born in England and am British. when you going to get tattoed with your name and number on your arms?
Barry, Chesham, Bucks
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UK now suffers total every day surveillance
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UK now suffers total every day surveillance...
What - you mean they're watching me now? Just as I'm about to french kiss my Jack Russell?
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at least you are not being watched as you save yourself from prostate cancer




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Of course that would depend on WHERE you decide to to save yourself.laphanphon wrote:at least you are not being watched as you save yourself from prostate cancer![]()
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Just make sure your MSN Messenger webcam is off before you look around the left handed websites.bugseda wrote:Of course that would depend on WHERE you decide to to save yourself.
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Yes Westers turn yours off and take that crimplene dress off and put your jeans and shirt back on....and leave that Jack Russell alone. 

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I can't do any of that, BM. I've got cramp in my right hand and the dog has run upstairs somewhere.beer monkey wrote:Yes Westers turn yours off and take that crimplene dress off and put your jeans and shirt back on....and leave that Jack Russell alone.
Quick, get back on topic:
We are supposed to be a nation being snooped on by our Government yet we have plenty of asylum seekers and illegal immigrants hiding away while making making a tax free living. Again, this all sounds like media hysteria.
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Cute pooch...would that happen to be a Jack Russell perchance?
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Westie Highland terrier wrote:We are supposed to be a nation being snooped on by our Government yet we have plenty of asylum seekers and illegal immigrants hiding away while making making a tax free living. Again, this all sounds like media hysteria.
Obviously not enough cctv and surveillance at points of entry...

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Being serious for a moment. A couple of years ago, during a tax investigation into my accounts, I was surprised, no, amazed, at the source of some information they had. Too numerous to list, but I thought the following may be of interest as we all use them.
My frequent flier cards. From these they not only had full details of my journeys, but knew, what class, what seat, and who my companions were. They even knew what menu items I prefered, and what tipple. Even how much luggage I had and whether I paid cash or credit card for the ticket.
Now most of that is not surprising when you think about it, but the one that really shook me is my supermarket loyalty cards.
From these they obtained what stores I visited, how often I shopped, how I paid. Exactly, I mean exactly, what I purchased. They even knew my favourite malts, which yearsI thought best ,and whether I drank it neat or with a mixer.what meats. Even the brand of baked beans I liked.When it came to a summary of the wines I had bought including vintages, even I was impressed. I,m sure Egon Ronay would have been
This was during the years 98 - 2000.God knows what they can do now.
Foot note: For those interested. I got stung for 20k sterling inc penalties .Ouch.
My frequent flier cards. From these they not only had full details of my journeys, but knew, what class, what seat, and who my companions were. They even knew what menu items I prefered, and what tipple. Even how much luggage I had and whether I paid cash or credit card for the ticket.
Now most of that is not surprising when you think about it, but the one that really shook me is my supermarket loyalty cards.
From these they obtained what stores I visited, how often I shopped, how I paid. Exactly, I mean exactly, what I purchased. They even knew my favourite malts, which yearsI thought best ,and whether I drank it neat or with a mixer.what meats. Even the brand of baked beans I liked.When it came to a summary of the wines I had bought including vintages, even I was impressed. I,m sure Egon Ronay would have been

Foot note: For those interested. I got stung for 20k sterling inc penalties .Ouch.
