Oscar Pistorius to be charged with murder

Post by **stattointhailand** » October 22, 2014, 5:34 pm

Just hope for his sake he doesn't touch his feet together without being earthed

Post by **jackspratt** » October 27, 2014, 9:20 pm

Hopefully justice will prevail in the end:

South African prosecutors have announced that they will appeal against both the sentence and verdict handed down to Olympic athlete Oscar Pistorius.

Pistorius, a double amputee, shot and killed his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp on Valentine's Day last year, saying he mistook her for an intruder before he fired four shots through a locked bathroom door.

A Pretoria court last month found him guilty of culpable homicide, a charge equivalent to manslaughter, after a lengthy and widely publicised trial.

"[We] will be appealing both the conviction and sentence," National Prosecuting Authority spokesman Nathi Mncube said.............

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-28/s ... ct/5845958

Post by **jackspratt** » October 30, 2014, 8:30 am

Snow White, Superman and Pinocchio are out for a stroll in town one day.

As they walk, they come across a sign: "Beauty contest to find the most beautiful woman in the world."
"I am entering" said Snow White.
After half an hour she comes out and they ask her, "Well, how'd you do?"
"First place," said Snow White.

They continue walking and they see a sign: "Contest to find the strongest man in the world."
"I'm entering," says Superman.
After half an hour he returns and they ask him, "How did you make out?"
"First place," answers Superman.

They continue walking when they see a sign: "Contest! Who is the greatest liar in the world?"
Pinocchio enters.
After half an hour he returns with tears in his eyes.
"What happened?" Snow White and Superman asked.
"Who the fuuck is Oscar Pistorius?" asked Pinocchio.

Post by **stattointhailand** » December 10, 2014, 5:38 pm

And off we go again

https://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/pis ... --spt.html

Post by **Aardvark** » December 11, 2014, 4:16 pm

I really can't see anything changing. It seems the Law in SA is far different to what we expect in our Countries ....

Post by **Shado** » December 11, 2014, 4:48 pm

I really can't see anything changing. It seems the Law in SA is far different to what we expect in our Countries ....

Careful there Aardy. Parrot is South African.

Post by **Aardvark** » December 11, 2014, 5:10 pm

No disrespect intended Shads, the Laws of every Country differ. In Oz he would at least be convicted of Manslaughter, which still carries a Life Sentence ....

Post by **stattointhailand** » December 11, 2014, 5:15 pm

"I cannot say the prospect of success at the Supreme Court is remote," Judge Masipa said in granting the appeal.

Masipa dismissed the state's application to appeal the five- year prison sentence, meaning Pistorius' jail term will not be extended unless the state convinces the Supreme Court of Appeal to overturn the original culpable homicide verdict.

Her decision to rule out murder was criticised by several legal experts and the Women's League of the ruling African National Congress (ANC) as an erroneous interpretation of the law.

possibly her comment would indicate to the world that even SHE thinks she co*ked it up :-"

Post by **jackspratt** » December 11, 2014, 7:39 pm

Aardvark wrote:I really can't see anything changing. It seems the Law in SA is far different to what we expect in our Countries ....

Too true there, Aardy ................ what sort of system would provide for the original judge to hear an appeal against their own judgement?

Post by **merchant seaman** » December 11, 2014, 7:56 pm

I don't think he has a leg to stand on for an appeal.

Post by **bamboozle** » December 12, 2014, 8:50 am

Jim Jefferies take on the Pistorius case. Funny or sick depending on your sense of humor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nT0Vz156AdY

Post by **Zidane** » December 12, 2014, 9:40 am

There was another high profile case in South Africa recently where the wife of a British businessman was murdered in a supposedly staged robbery a few years back.The husband was indited from the UK to face trial after it was revealed he had a penchant for male prostitutes and wanted rid of his wife,so staged the murder.
Despite having a couple of confessions from the "robbers" the judge threw the case out stating the police evidence was shambolic.
So the guy was free to return to the UK and the wifes family left wondering what on earth was going on.

Post by **GT93** » December 12, 2014, 10:30 am

GT was following this one and if GT was on the jury he would be furious the judge didn't let GT convict the British Indian groom who was a *****. GT also wishes he'd been on the Pistorius jury. No wet bus ticket from GT.

Post by **jackspratt** » December 12, 2014, 10:59 am

GT93 wrote:GT was following this one and if GT was on the jury he would be furious the judge didn't let GT convict the British Indian groom who was a *****. GT also wishes he'd been on the Pistorius jury. No wet bus ticket from GT.

Errr GT ......... South Africa, like Thailand, doesn't have jury trials.

Post by **GT93** » December 12, 2014, 11:06 am

What a bummer. Then GT should have been posting if he was the judge ... the defendants would have been for the high jump ...

The South African justice system hasn't been looking too flash lately.

Post by **mathusalah80** » December 14, 2014, 11:03 am

[quote="GT93"]the British Indian groom who was a *****.

That was the problem GT; he didn't want to be!

Post by **GT93** » December 14, 2014, 12:28 pm

Yes. Hopefully the widespread publicity of his sexual practices will he a harsh punishment. What a loser. Too scared to come out? Looks a worse dude than Pistorius. We're near the bottom of the barrel.

Post by **Aardvark** » December 3, 2015, 5:12 pm

Finally justice has prevailed ..... https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/302 ... steenkamp/

Post by **noosard** » December 3, 2015, 5:57 pm

Has not been sentenced yet
Hopefully won't be corrupted and get at least the minimum 15 years

Post by **mathusalah80** » December 4, 2015, 11:32 am

jackspratt wrote:
Aardvark wrote: Too true there, Aardy ................ what sort of system would provide for the original judge to hear an appeal against their own judgement?

In which country, and in relation to which case, has that occurred Jack?

In the Pistorius case, the appeal against the original judge's decision, (Judge Maspia), was made to, and decided by, 'The SA Supreme Court of Appeal, (comprising 5 judges NOT including Judge Maspia).
Simplistically, the Supreme Court decided Maspia had made an error in Law, and used it's power to overturn her decision, and grant the Prosecution application to upgrade the conviction to Murder.
Arising from that decision, the Supreme Court became empowered to make one of two Orders, namely either to order a new trial, or refer the case back to the original trial Judge, (Maspia), for resentencing, but this time the sentence to be based upon a Murder conviction, and therefore such sentence to fall within the parameters applying under SA Law, (i.e. my understanding minimum of 15years- with allowable 'special circumstances reductions- and a maximum of 20 years).
There remains only one further appeal opening for Pistorius, and that is to the Constitutional Court the grounds for which, I understood, is restricted to matters of law. Personally, having studied the very comprehensive and thorough decision of the Supreme Court,I think going forward to the stage, would be a waste of time.
I anticipate the net sentence will end up being 12 years and, bearing in mind he must serve at least 50% of the actual sentence, he will probably serve around another approximate 6/7 years, before being paroled.
I believe the SA justice system, has been demonstrated to work, every bit as favourably as, for example, USA, GB or Oz. Nothing I have written is intended to imply my personal agreement or disagreement, with the final verdict, only that I am of the opinion the requirements of a fair and impartial treatment of this case, have been fulfilled.