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Post by Earnest » March 22, 2022, 7:31 pm

Yeah, they're certainly effective, Cali. The UAVs not the aircrew.


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Re: Ukraine

Post by parrot » March 23, 2022, 1:38 pm

Several Russian-owned yachts have been arrested thus far.....but the biggest prize of all might be
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnhyatt/ ... 0b83786bc4

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Post by tamada » March 23, 2022, 2:18 pm

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Re: Ukraine

Post by tamada » March 23, 2022, 5:51 pm

Anyway, here's another opinion.

https://original.antiwar.com/david_stoc ... or-my-eye/

David Stockman was Reagan's head of the Office of Budget Management. Now he's a historian (apparently).
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Re: Ukraine

Post by pepesgrill » March 24, 2022, 5:51 am

Earnest wrote:
March 22, 2022, 7:31 pm
Yeah, they're certainly effective, Cali. The UAVs not the aircrew.
not impressed with the (3) chubby guys in the
air-con trailer with their play-station sturmovik
simulator. yes, it seems less than chivalrous :-s

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Re: Ukraine

Post by glalt » March 24, 2022, 10:11 am

At one time I thought that Putin was quite smart. It appears that he has now indeed gone totally mad. Even IF he can control some major cities, there is no way he can control the huge country. There will be thousands of guerillas harassing his military. The guerillas will be armed with high tech tank killers and state of the art stinger missiles.

Putin's days are numbered. His countrymen will soon find a way to kill him.

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Post by Khun Paul » March 24, 2022, 11:37 am

Smart weould have been getting what he wanted by discussion and agreement , as soon as the first Tank rolled over the border, he became a p;ariah. Smart ........not even on a bad day !

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Re: Ukraine

Post by pepesgrill » March 24, 2022, 4:05 pm

eh , the 2nd coming of sean connery . im not
so sure . we may need an official papal ruling

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Re: Ukraine

Post by Whistler » March 24, 2022, 8:29 pm

Not too many clinging to Putin's view of the war. see some posts supporting Putin on this site have been removed, probably a good thing too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/worl ... ganda.html
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Post by GT93 » March 25, 2022, 1:00 am

Really? That surprises me. Putin still seems to have some fans in MAGAland who like to promote the Russian talking points.
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Post by GT93 » March 25, 2022, 1:10 am

glalt wrote:
March 24, 2022, 10:11 am
At one time I thought that Putin was quite smart.
Yes, he looked like a genius compared to his American poodle at Helsinki. I gave Putin a lot of credit for not pissing himself laughing at Trump's performance.
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Re: Ukraine

Post by tamada » March 25, 2022, 8:57 am

Whistler wrote:
March 24, 2022, 8:29 pm
Not too many clinging to Putin's view of the war. see some posts supporting Putin on this site have been removed, probably a good thing too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/worl ... ganda.html
There's been "some posts supporting Putin on this site"?
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Re: Ukraine

Post by glalt » March 25, 2022, 1:31 pm

tamada wrote:
March 25, 2022, 8:57 am
Whistler wrote:
March 24, 2022, 8:29 pm
Not too many clinging to Putin's view of the war. see some posts supporting Putin on this site have been removed, probably a good thing too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/worl ... ganda.html
There's been "some posts supporting Putin on this site"?
Where are those posts? Anyone supporting Putin would have to be super loyal Putin fans. They have to have seen the Russian military destroying cities and killing many innocent people, I do feel sorry for the Russian people who are protesting being beaten and jailed.

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Re: Ukraine

Post by parrot » March 25, 2022, 2:05 pm

I was reading a NYT piece about boa constrictors squeezing life out of their prey, then came across this article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/busi ... ussia.html
One can only hope the two are related

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Re: Ukraine

Post by chopperjoey » March 25, 2022, 2:31 pm

Whistler wrote:
March 24, 2022, 8:29 pm
Not too many clinging to Putin's view of the war. see some posts supporting Putin on this site have been removed, probably a good thing too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/worl ... ganda.html
oh? since when is removing different viewpoints a good thing? free speech unless its a viewpoint i dont like, like that?

How can anyone make an educated opinion or viewpoint if we are treated as sheep and only allowed to read viewpoints that are tolerated by the governement.

But i get it, this propaganda and shutting down other viewpoints is for "the good cause". ;-)

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Re: Ukraine

Post by Khun Paul » March 25, 2022, 4:26 pm

glalt wrote:
March 25, 2022, 1:31 pm
tamada wrote:
March 25, 2022, 8:57 am
Whistler wrote:
March 24, 2022, 8:29 pm
Not too many clinging to Putin's view of the war. see some posts supporting Putin on this site have been removed, probably a good thing too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/worl ... ganda.html
There's been "some posts supporting Putin on this site"?
Where are those posts? Anyone supporting Putin would have to be super loyal Putin fans. They have to have seen the Russian military destroying cities and killing many innocent people, I do feel sorry for the Russian people who are protesting being beaten and jailed.
Draw your attention to Senator M T Green for her outspoken tirade basically telling Ukraine to roll over and let Russia take charge . The fact that she is a SENATOR and a Republican in the same camp as Mr Trump speaks volumes of Americas current political problems.

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Re: Ukraine

Post by tamada » March 25, 2022, 6:15 pm

Khun Paul wrote:
March 25, 2022, 4:26 pm
glalt wrote:
March 25, 2022, 1:31 pm
tamada wrote:
March 25, 2022, 8:57 am
Whistler wrote:
March 24, 2022, 8:29 pm
Not too many clinging to Putin's view of the war. see some posts supporting Putin on this site have been removed, probably a good thing too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/24/worl ... ganda.html
There's been "some posts supporting Putin on this site"?
Where are those posts? Anyone supporting Putin would have to be super loyal Putin fans. They have to have seen the Russian military destroying cities and killing many innocent people, I do feel sorry for the Russian people who are protesting being beaten and jailed.
Draw your attention to Senator M T Green for her outspoken tirade basically telling Ukraine to roll over and let Russia take charge . The fact that she is a SENATOR and a Republican in the same camp as Mr Trump speaks volumes of Americas current political problems.
Marjorie Taylor Greene isn't a member of this forum. I would be surprised if a member has posted a link to what she has said and that link has been removed. My links to Russia Today stories remain. Whistler's earlier post suggested to me that of a pro-Putin member had commented and been subsequently purged. If that happened, maybe they were simply trolling?
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Re: Ukraine

Post by Earnest » March 25, 2022, 6:37 pm

Yeah but she won't be posting under her own name, will she. Most of the Americans on here have user names but they really call themselves Budd, Chuck or Hiram.
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Re: Ukraine

Post by charly66 » March 25, 2022, 8:22 pm

A bet : Putin is dead after 6 months

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Re: Ukraine

Post by glalt » March 25, 2022, 9:01 pm

Russia has a very powerful military. They could eventually win the war through superior numbers. Whether they win or not depends on the huge losses they would suffer. There would be no winners. What would they win? They will have destroyed the country so what would they gain? Thousands of guerillas will make their occupation too expensive to stay. There will be no winners.

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