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BBC: Who is Guilty One?
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Confirmed by who? The gossip merchants in Taffyland or the airport check in queues?can123 wrote: ↑July 13, 2023, 6:01 pmNo, "self proclaimed" was an unfortunate choice of words. Huw Lewis set himself up as a sort of demigod. He was forever preaching how all Welshmen should be like him and I thought him to be a pretentious "pain in the arse". Although he was supposed to do his job impartially he made it very clear what his own views were. The rumour mill in Wales is powerful and there are many secrets which are shared and not spoken of. It has now been confirmed that he has homosexual tendencies. Nothing wrong in that but he was a bloody hypocrite.
A man who was on our TV screens twice a day, at 6.00pm and 10.00pm, disappeared from view and it was patently obvious that he was the man in question.
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Chicken and egg situation.
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Sorry - typo! But, I love the "Back To The Future" films. I didn't like Huw Edwards because he was/is part of a group called "The Welsh Taffia". They think they are a cut above the ordinary Welsh people and I am delighted that he now has "egg over his face". Everything is his own fault. No sympathy for him. Most Welsh men I know don't want photos of 17 year old boys.
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For twenty years, Huw Edwards anchored the BBC's flagship News at Ten programme, watched by millions each weeknight.
But now he has been identified as the presenter at the centre of allegations about inappropriate conduct, following five days of speculation and mounting claims published across Britain's media, including by colleagues at BBC News.
As the BBC's most senior news anchor, Edwards has been a fixture of some of the UK's most historic national moments.
The 61-year-old was the person who informed millions of television viewers across the world that Queen Elizabeth II had died. His voice has narrated royal funerals, weddings and the coronation of individual Charles III. And he has announced general election results.
In a statement on his behalf on Wednesday, Edwards' wife Vicky Flind revealed that he was the presenter involved and said he was in hospital after a serious mental health episode.
He would respond to the stories published about him when well enough to do so, she said.
"It is a reminder that the last few days have seen personal lives played out in public," BBC director general Tim Davie wrote to staff. "At the heart of this are people and their families."
What are the allegations?
On Friday, the Sun newspaper published a story that said an unidentified presenter for the BBC was accused of paying thousands of pounds to a young person, now 20, over a number of years, for explicit photographs.
In an interview, the mother of the young person expressed her concern at the payments and her worry they were funding her child's crack cocaine habit.
Over subsequent days, a drip-feed of further allegations were published by the Sun, and then by BBC News, which reports independently on the BBC as if it were any other organisation.
On Sunday, the BBC admitted it received a complaint linked to the Sun's initial allegations seven weeks before they were pursued by the newspaper and that it had suspended a male member of staff.
The next day, a lawyer for the young person involved said the Sun's story was "rubbish" and denied anything criminal took place.
It was not long before further, and different, allegations involving the presenter were made in reports by the Sun and by BBC News.
These included claims of "menacing" messages to a person in their 20s, a visit to another person during a coronavirus lockdown, and inappropriate messages to a BBC staff member.
A series of developments came within a ten-minute period on Wednesday as the Metropolitan Police said it had found no evidence of criminality in its review of evidence, and the BBC said its internal corporate investigation would continue as a result.
Then Huw Edwards' identity as the BBC presenter was confirmed in a statement issued on his behalf by his wife.
Why wasn't Huw Edwards named?
Unlike the United States, the UK does not have a sweeping First Amendment to protect free speech and therefore most news reporting.
A combination of privacy and defamation laws govern how the UK media report stories and identify subjects of allegations.
Since a major UK Supreme Court ruling last year, the right to privacy includes people who are under investigation by a law enforcement agency - meaning the stage before they have been formally charged with a crime and sent to the courts.
Edwards was never under formal investigation by police.
Meanwhile, UK defamation law protects any individual's reputation from the massive harm caused by lies.
It was famously invoked in the UK by Johnny Depp in his case against a UK tabloid, which was forced to defend its description of him as a "wife beater".
The tabloid's defence relied on testimony from Depp's ex-wife Amber Heard, and Depp lost his libel case in London.
As if to demonstrate the differences in the UK's legal landscape, Depp later won an almost identical case in the US, prompting a settlement from Heard.
So the decision not to name Edwards for so long rested on the high legal risk of a case being brought under privacy or defamation laws - or even a combination of these.
The denial of the initial allegations by the young person involved further raised the bar in terms of naming the presenter.
Why has there been so much scrutiny?
This latest scandal follows several high-profile crises at the BBC.
In recent years, it has faced major questions over how it handled false allegations against the singer Sir Cliff Richard in 2018, what it knew about prolific paedophile Jimmy Savile at the BBC, and even how it secured its controversial interview with Diana, Princess of Wales in the 1990s.
Outside the UK, the BBC is largely funded through advertising. But in Britain, it is paid for by a publicly funded licence fee - a mandatory charge levied on every household with a television.
It supplies households with television content, including news, live sport, dramas and current affairs programmes. It broadcasts across dozens of local and national radio stations. It offers a streaming platform, news and sport websites, and even an app for weather forecasts.
The BBC's public funding model in the UK rightly leads to scrutiny of the BBC and those who work for it. It also raises criticism, of the licence fee, its output, and of the BBC's dominant position in the UK media landscape.
What happens next?
Huw Edwards will respond to stories published about him when he is able to do so, his wife has said.
The BBC has said its corporate investigation will continue now that the police have ruled out criminality.
But questions remain for the BBC in what it knew of the allegations, and when, and over its response to them.
The Sun newspaper has said it will co-operate with the BBC, and that it has no plans to publish further allegations about Edwards.
"This remains a very complex set of circumstances," BBC boss Mr Davie has said.
line
How does BBC News cover stories about the BBC?
With stories like this one, BBC News journalists treat the BBC in the same way as any other organisation the news service reports on.
And like with any other organisation, BBC News has to ask BBC management or BBC services for responses and contact the BBC press office for official statements.
Occasionally BBC journalists approach senior managers for unplanned interviews - known as "doorsteps" in the news business.
They also sometimes also get offered interviews with management - like this one with Mr Davie over the Gary Lineker row.
And when this happens, they know they'll be scrutinised within and outside the BBC over how well they hold their boss to account.
For info
But now he has been identified as the presenter at the centre of allegations about inappropriate conduct, following five days of speculation and mounting claims published across Britain's media, including by colleagues at BBC News.
As the BBC's most senior news anchor, Edwards has been a fixture of some of the UK's most historic national moments.
The 61-year-old was the person who informed millions of television viewers across the world that Queen Elizabeth II had died. His voice has narrated royal funerals, weddings and the coronation of individual Charles III. And he has announced general election results.
In a statement on his behalf on Wednesday, Edwards' wife Vicky Flind revealed that he was the presenter involved and said he was in hospital after a serious mental health episode.
He would respond to the stories published about him when well enough to do so, she said.
"It is a reminder that the last few days have seen personal lives played out in public," BBC director general Tim Davie wrote to staff. "At the heart of this are people and their families."
What are the allegations?
On Friday, the Sun newspaper published a story that said an unidentified presenter for the BBC was accused of paying thousands of pounds to a young person, now 20, over a number of years, for explicit photographs.
In an interview, the mother of the young person expressed her concern at the payments and her worry they were funding her child's crack cocaine habit.
Over subsequent days, a drip-feed of further allegations were published by the Sun, and then by BBC News, which reports independently on the BBC as if it were any other organisation.
On Sunday, the BBC admitted it received a complaint linked to the Sun's initial allegations seven weeks before they were pursued by the newspaper and that it had suspended a male member of staff.
The next day, a lawyer for the young person involved said the Sun's story was "rubbish" and denied anything criminal took place.
It was not long before further, and different, allegations involving the presenter were made in reports by the Sun and by BBC News.
These included claims of "menacing" messages to a person in their 20s, a visit to another person during a coronavirus lockdown, and inappropriate messages to a BBC staff member.
A series of developments came within a ten-minute period on Wednesday as the Metropolitan Police said it had found no evidence of criminality in its review of evidence, and the BBC said its internal corporate investigation would continue as a result.
Then Huw Edwards' identity as the BBC presenter was confirmed in a statement issued on his behalf by his wife.
Why wasn't Huw Edwards named?
Unlike the United States, the UK does not have a sweeping First Amendment to protect free speech and therefore most news reporting.
A combination of privacy and defamation laws govern how the UK media report stories and identify subjects of allegations.
Since a major UK Supreme Court ruling last year, the right to privacy includes people who are under investigation by a law enforcement agency - meaning the stage before they have been formally charged with a crime and sent to the courts.
Edwards was never under formal investigation by police.
Meanwhile, UK defamation law protects any individual's reputation from the massive harm caused by lies.
It was famously invoked in the UK by Johnny Depp in his case against a UK tabloid, which was forced to defend its description of him as a "wife beater".
The tabloid's defence relied on testimony from Depp's ex-wife Amber Heard, and Depp lost his libel case in London.
As if to demonstrate the differences in the UK's legal landscape, Depp later won an almost identical case in the US, prompting a settlement from Heard.
So the decision not to name Edwards for so long rested on the high legal risk of a case being brought under privacy or defamation laws - or even a combination of these.
The denial of the initial allegations by the young person involved further raised the bar in terms of naming the presenter.
Why has there been so much scrutiny?
This latest scandal follows several high-profile crises at the BBC.
In recent years, it has faced major questions over how it handled false allegations against the singer Sir Cliff Richard in 2018, what it knew about prolific paedophile Jimmy Savile at the BBC, and even how it secured its controversial interview with Diana, Princess of Wales in the 1990s.
Outside the UK, the BBC is largely funded through advertising. But in Britain, it is paid for by a publicly funded licence fee - a mandatory charge levied on every household with a television.
It supplies households with television content, including news, live sport, dramas and current affairs programmes. It broadcasts across dozens of local and national radio stations. It offers a streaming platform, news and sport websites, and even an app for weather forecasts.
The BBC's public funding model in the UK rightly leads to scrutiny of the BBC and those who work for it. It also raises criticism, of the licence fee, its output, and of the BBC's dominant position in the UK media landscape.
What happens next?
Huw Edwards will respond to stories published about him when he is able to do so, his wife has said.
The BBC has said its corporate investigation will continue now that the police have ruled out criminality.
But questions remain for the BBC in what it knew of the allegations, and when, and over its response to them.
The Sun newspaper has said it will co-operate with the BBC, and that it has no plans to publish further allegations about Edwards.
"This remains a very complex set of circumstances," BBC boss Mr Davie has said.
line
How does BBC News cover stories about the BBC?
With stories like this one, BBC News journalists treat the BBC in the same way as any other organisation the news service reports on.
And like with any other organisation, BBC News has to ask BBC management or BBC services for responses and contact the BBC press office for official statements.
Occasionally BBC journalists approach senior managers for unplanned interviews - known as "doorsteps" in the news business.
They also sometimes also get offered interviews with management - like this one with Mr Davie over the Gary Lineker row.
And when this happens, they know they'll be scrutinised within and outside the BBC over how well they hold their boss to account.
For info
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Another
The parents told The Sun their 20-year-old child had been taken advantage of by Edwards, who they alleged paid the youngster £35,000 for explicit pictures. The young person denied the allegation, describing the claims as "rubbish".
The BBC is carrying out "fact-finding investigations" into allegations against the veteran broadcaster, who was identified by his wife on Wednesday after frenzied speculation on social media.
London's Metropolitan Police has said it found no evidence of a criminal offence having been committed by Edwards and no further police action will be taken "at this time", allowing the internal BBC investigation to resume.
The parents told The Sun their 20-year-old child had been taken advantage of by Edwards, who they alleged paid the youngster £35,000 for explicit pictures. The young person denied the allegation, describing the claims as "rubbish".
The BBC is carrying out "fact-finding investigations" into allegations against the veteran broadcaster, who was identified by his wife on Wednesday after frenzied speculation on social media.
London's Metropolitan Police has said it found no evidence of a criminal offence having been committed by Edwards and no further police action will be taken "at this time", allowing the internal BBC investigation to resume.
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KP, any possibility of a link, or even using the quote function, for your ongoing plagiarism?
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It would appear that, again the INTERNET Has struck again, people wanting a scandal have finally succeeded, possibly pillorying a person who it has been said has committed NO CRIMINAL OFFENCES, and as the alleged Youth is 20 yeas old that youth has also said the allegations made by his parents are rubbish.
So congratulations all of you who thought this deed warranted hype, outright accusations and speaking utter twaddle , you should be proud of your lack of common-sense and intelligence . I AM TRULY amazed at some on here being so sucked into the hype . WE forget ANY ALLEGATION is just that until the alleged offender is proven guilty . But no in this wonderful world of easy to say with out any repercussions everyman and his AUNT say whatever they like with zero accountability .
So congratulations all of you who thought this deed warranted hype, outright accusations and speaking utter twaddle , you should be proud of your lack of common-sense and intelligence . I AM TRULY amazed at some on here being so sucked into the hype . WE forget ANY ALLEGATION is just that until the alleged offender is proven guilty . But no in this wonderful world of easy to say with out any repercussions everyman and his AUNT say whatever they like with zero accountability .
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Good to see you're keeping up.Khun Paul wrote: ↑July 15, 2023, 6:40 amAnother
The parents told The Sun their 20-year-old child had been taken advantage of by Edwards, who they alleged paid the youngster £35,000 for explicit pictures. The young person denied the allegation, describing the claims as "rubbish".
The BBC is carrying out "fact-finding investigations" into allegations against the veteran broadcaster, who was identified by his wife on Wednesday after frenzied speculation on social media.
London's Metropolitan Police has said it found no evidence of a criminal offence having been committed by Edwards and no further police action will be taken "at this time", allowing the internal BBC investigation to resume.
'Don't waste your words on people who deserve your silence'
~Reinhold Messner~
'You don't have to be afraid of everything you don't understand'
~Louise Perica~
~Reinhold Messner~
'You don't have to be afraid of everything you don't understand'
~Louise Perica~
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So it was him. You heard it from me first thanks to the couple of English ladies gossiping during boarding our flight from Doha to Bangkok.....
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No. You said it was Hugh Edwards so you were wrong.deankham wrote: ↑July 15, 2023, 1:26 pmSo it was him. You heard it from me first thanks to the couple of English ladies gossiping during boarding our flight from Doha to Bangkok.....
'Don't waste your words on people who deserve your silence'
~Reinhold Messner~
'You don't have to be afraid of everything you don't understand'
~Louise Perica~
~Reinhold Messner~
'You don't have to be afraid of everything you don't understand'
~Louise Perica~
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Stop being a Hugh Jass.....
Boom boom. Even 747 is laughing at that one.
Boom boom. Even 747 is laughing at that one.
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Former Top BBC Anchor Charged with Making Indecent Images of Children
From 29 July, New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/29/worl ... ldren.html
From 29 July, New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/29/worl ... ldren.html
Re: BBC: Who is Guilty One?
'Don't waste your words on people who deserve your silence'
~Reinhold Messner~
'You don't have to be afraid of everything you don't understand'
~Louise Perica~
~Reinhold Messner~
'You don't have to be afraid of everything you don't understand'
~Louise Perica~