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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by Aardvark » May 9, 2009, 3:49 pm

seymourbutts wrote:So now westers shes not innocent but we should wait till her case is heard!!!! a shift of position, it was she is innocent until a fair trial only a day or so ago!!!! Ok Jack and westers especially... SHE IS GUILTY!! Iam not making it up it is true!!! Under Laos Law!!! The ONLY law applicable in this sorry case... She is a guilty drug trafficker who was not raped in prison but highly likely to have become pregnant to avoid justice.. What would you call her then if B1tch and scum is too harsh a word in these pc times??? Let me guess, misunderstood, stupid, unfortunate, poor thing, niaive!!!! She WAS caught trying to leave Laos with 680gms of heroin strapped to her body!! Thats the same as a person carrying a m16 fully loaded... Keep wriggling and protesting boys but shes guilty and you are looking and sounding pathetic in your quest to try and impose your (I am the only one right here) attitude on us... People with your attitude will ensure she returns to uk and that NO justice is served here, and frankly an affront to law abiding people...

Why defend her, you are more concerned than her bloody mother is!!!! Give yourselves a talking to!!! Think about good people, think about the victims.... Frankly you are defending a GUILTY person, or you are trying to impose your measure of guilt on all of us.....
May your God have mercy on your soul :(



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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by westerby » May 9, 2009, 3:54 pm

seymourbutts wrote:So now westers shes not innocent but we should wait till her case is heard!!!! a shift of position, it was she is innocent until a fair trial only a day or so ago!!!!
Sorry, I can't find where I said she was innocent, can you point that post out for me? I think you'll find I never said anything of the sort.

My position remains the same:

1. We don't know the details of the case so we can't assume anything.

2. The Lao justice system must be played out to determine the outcome.

3. You and the other Grannies haven't a clue what you're on about.

I suggest you need to check your facts before you post your warped opinions on this thread then you won't look like an ar$e.

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by jackspratt » May 9, 2009, 4:23 pm

seymour your emotive rant is not deserving of any further response. :-#

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by Galee » May 10, 2009, 10:59 am

Looks like she will get off and be sent back to the UK.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... rison.html

A new treaty was signed between Laos and the UK on Thursday.

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by seymourbutts » May 10, 2009, 12:40 pm

westerby wrote:
seymourbutts wrote:So now westers shes not innocent but we should wait till her case is heard!!!! a shift of position, it was she is innocent until a fair trial only a day or so ago!!!!
Sorry, I can't find where I said she was innocent, can you point that post out for me? I think you'll find I never said anything of the sort.

My position remains the same:

1. We don't know the details of the case so we can't assume anything.

2. The Lao justice system must be played out to determine the outcome.

3. You and the other Grannies haven't a clue what you're on about.

I suggest you need to check your facts before you post your warped opinions on this thread then you won't look like an ar$e.
Sorry westers you are right about the innocent bit, i was wrong , you know lumping you in with all her other supporters on here!!!!
I would like to point out some errors though:

1. We do know the details of the case and she is guilty of the charges under Laos law... To say we dont know the details, apart from being childish is like saying the press have never and will never report any case throughout history!! Unless you personally are in court in any case ever, you dont know the details... so we rely on people such as the bbc to find the details and report them to us!!! Everybody here who doesnt support her see that you supporters are losing the argument and shes just not going to get justice!!! So clutching at straws isnt going to work!!

2. resorting to calling us grannies and saying we dont have a clue sounds like my ex wife when she was losing the argument!! And is more than childish!!!

3. I dont think my opinions are warped (again being childish) i just think they are different to yours and all the other people who are in denial here.. And it hurts you because someone doesnt agree with your views (again childish)
You could of course define how people with the attitude that she should get justice Laos style like me and others are grannies, last time i looked i was male and not so childish!!!! And again you could qualify how I and others have warped opinions, again childish remarks from a person fast losing the argument...

I wonder if you and others will be at Heathrow to welcome her home? The poor thing!!!!


So to recap, my opinion here is: She is guilty as reported by the bbc and other press, she had the stuff strapped to her again as reported. (there is no other way for anyone to say any different) Under Laos law she is guilty. End of!!
This makes her a heroin trafficker, to me she is scum, an absolute low life of society. People who defend this i cannot understand!!!
I believe she should get Laos justice 100% and be executed after now giving birth...

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by seymourbutts » May 10, 2009, 12:59 pm

jackspratt wrote:seymour your emotive rant is not deserving of any further response. :-#
Is this because you have nothing more to say??? Really Jack, you have just been made a fool of by a scum of the earth drug trafficker, i understand i suppose.... You have clearly come out in her support and now you will watch her make her way through the system to uk and virtual paradise in comparison!!! The next time its reported that an old lady is mugged or murdered for her pension to feed some scum bags habit, i expect you will support the scum bag until hes been proven guilty!! Its sick really!!
thats your way i suppose and my way is different, me i would put the little fcuker in a room with grannies familly and see justice is served, the same justice she got!! But to you and others thats warped!!! I understand, we are different, but calling my post an emotive rant is just like westers very childish, clutching at straws and the view of some one losing the argument!!! e.g. Im taking my ball home!!!!!! Grow Up!!

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by westerby » May 10, 2009, 2:13 pm

Seymour,

Show me where the BBC has cited her as being guilty.

Your argument is warped because it descends into an emotive rant with no established facts. I've just read your reply to me and I can't find a coherent response to what I've previously stated, apart from the fact that I'm childish, most of the Seniors on this site will agree with you on that one. :lol: However, I've had protracted arguments with the older generation before and their last refuge is always that I should grow up and stop being childish, that normally means they have no effective argument to counter mine.

I'm sorry for calling you a Granny but the whole tone of your argument gives me the impression that you're a frightened old Dear. Try and relax a bit.


Arjay, Bob, I'm way off base, I won't be surprised if you delete this one. :lol:

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by seymourbutts » May 10, 2009, 4:48 pm

westerby wrote:Seymour,
Show me where the BBC has cited her as being guilty.

Your argument is warped because it descends into an emotive rant with no established facts. I've just read your reply to me and I can't find a coherent response to what I've previously stated, apart from the fact that I'm childish, most of the Seniors on this site will agree with you on that one. :lol: However, I've had protracted arguments with the older generation before and their last refuge is always that I should grow up and stop being childish, that normally means they have no effective argument to counter mine.

I'm sorry for calling you a Granny but the whole tone of your argument gives me the impression that you're a frightened old Dear. Try and relax a bit.


Arjay, Bob, I'm way off base, I won't be surprised if you delete this one. :lol:
She is cited as being guilty by her admission to carrying the drugs for someone else... This is her being guilty to me as Laos law is Guilty til proved innocent... Sorry mate but you just cant wriggle out of her guilt... Its true!"!!!
She wouldnt be guilty here in uk i know but she is in Laos and guilty!!!!

Anyway this is just a bun fight!!! No apology needed matey, its just jousting to me, We meet we have a beer simple..
I disagree with your opinion and you disagree with mine, and never the twain shall meet... I agree with portions of your opinion and you agree with portions of mine... This is a luxury not all the world has "freedom of speech and opinion" and long may it stay.

But i am right here!!!!!!! You are not, she is guilty now, not after her trial, her trial will also be wrong to you if she is found guilty, so no win for me or you....

You must agree that it is a sad day when they ship her to uk low security or even tagged and sent home??? If she is proven guilty enough to satisfy you and your faction of her guilt?

I have 3 grown children, i have worked all my life, i am a law abiding citizen (usually) warped i am not, i dont need gods help for my opinion, i am joe average i believe, and westers i am under 50!!! =D>

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by jackspratt » May 10, 2009, 5:07 pm

seymourbutts wrote:
jackspratt wrote:seymour your emotive rant is not deserving of any further response. :-#
Is this because you have nothing more to say??? Really Jack, you have just been made a fool of by a scum of the earth drug trafficker, i understand i suppose.... You have clearly come out in her support and now you will watch her make her way through the system to uk and virtual paradise in comparison!!! The next time its reported that an old lady is mugged or murdered for her pension to feed some scum bags habit, i expect you will support the scum bag until hes been proven guilty!! Its sick really!!
thats your way i suppose and my way is different, me i would put the little fcuker in a room with grannies familly and see justice is served, the same justice she got!! But to you and others thats warped!!! I understand, we are different, but calling my post an emotive rant is just like westers very childish, clutching at straws and the view of some one losing the argument!!! e.g. Im taking my ball home!!!!!! Grow Up!!
seymour there is only one fool in this debate, and it certainly isn't me.

Have you bothered to read what I have actually said - or if you have, are you capable of comprehending its meaning?

If I continue this any further, I suspect I may get a holiday from the mods.

You really are a sad, misguided soul :confused: - and that is my opinion.

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by westerby » May 10, 2009, 5:23 pm

seymourbutts wrote:She is cited as being guilty by her admission to carrying the drugs for someone else... This is her being guilty to me as Laos law is Guilty til proved innocent... Sorry mate but you just cant wriggle out of her guilt... Its true!"!!!
She wouldnt be guilty here in uk i know but she is in Laos and guilty!!!!
Anyway this is just a bun fight!!! No apology needed matey, its just jousting to me, We meet we have a beer simple..
I disagree with your opinion and you disagree with mine, and never the twain shall meet... I agree with portions of your opinion and you agree with portions of mine... This is a luxury not all the world has "freedom of speech and opinion" and long may it stay.
But i am right here!!!!!!! You are not, she is guilty now, not after her trial, her trial will also be wrong to you if she is found guilty, so no win for me or you....
You must agree that it is a sad day when they ship her to uk low security or even tagged and sent home??? If she is proven guilty enough to satisfy you and your faction of her guilt?
I have 3 grown children, i have worked all my life, i am a law abiding citizen (usually) warped i am not, i dont need gods help for my opinion, i am joe average i believe, and westers i am under 50!!! =D>
I'm not trying to wriggle out of anything, my position remains the same, you and I don't know the intricacies of the case so you must let the justice system run its course before you pass a judgment on her. I have never inferred the girl is innocent because I don't know.

Not sure what your 3 grown up children has to do with this case either, or you having worked all your life as Joe Average and I'm not bothered whether you're under 50 or over 90.

Jack's right, you're not reading anything we've said. He's worried he'll be placed on an enforced vacation by the grown ups if he says anything further but I'm not so concerned so I'll say what I think; you're flaming nuts mate and you'd be the last ex-pat I'd go for a beer with. Now get in the queue behind Ulick and be careful you don't talk to KP.

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by seymourbutts » May 10, 2009, 10:25 pm

That must be a worry for you jack, not being able to reply in a decent manner being afraid you may Hvae to say something bad??? You poor thing!!!
I am sorry i dont take on board your enforced reading or is it homework, the established fact is she was caught at the airport with drugs strapped to her... therefore it is an indisputeable fact that she is guilty.... Do you need pictures or something??? Yes i have been reading your posts jack and i dont agree with your opinion...

It is an established fact that the rest of the forum will read that the pair of you have degenerated into name calling because i dont agree with your opinions.... You need to grow up and stop name calling just because some of us dont agree with you.... Thats so childish!!!!

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by seymourbutts » May 10, 2009, 11:05 pm

Westerby!! Ive just noticed your reply to Ulick mcgee, My god what are you on, he had a different opinion to you so you decided to change his name to "Arslick Mcgee" The pair of you are worse than spoilt kids who cant get their own way.... Get a bloody grip of yourself man!!!!

Is it ok to change peoples names on here to suit your sick mind??? I thought that would be a no no!!!

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Re: English girl facing firing squad in Laos

Post by banpaeng » May 10, 2009, 11:59 pm

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