UK Accession Day

[tamada]

At least Camilla is well past the producing yet another inter related offspring ...... enough that she and Charles are related through 2 different Ancestry lines

Don't sweat it. The Cambridge's brood mare is happily squeezing out the House of Windsor's enduring, chinless progeny.

I thought you were Pro Royalty, I see now you are as bad as that Moron that occupied the White House 2 years ago, a Republican with no respect of tradition or for that matter anything that smacks of the Establishment .

I have no problem with the UK's royalty.

The late Princess of Wales reneged on her contractual duties to make lots of Windsor babies and, as noted by others, Chuck and his consort were highly unlikely to add anything suitable. Thus it fell upon the willing thighs of Mrs Cambridge to part, lie back and think of England. Good job too since the Wessex's went off grid. I recall you subscribe to the bizarre notion that the ginger boy is being led astray by that dusky maiden from across the pond.

[jackspratt]

KP, perhaps if that "moron in the white house" was still there, I doubt Putin would
be so brazen imo. Putin and Bejing recognize Biden as weak.

Such inside knowledge, joudon - congrats on your direct lines to the Kremlin and the State Council.

This is not Joe Biden backing Putin in the video.

[joudon]

Time will tell.

[stattointhailand]

And the Ruskies didnt make any donations to the Tory party coffers ......... Bojo's seen the cover up (oops report) and confirmed there is nothing to see ....... and he's the PM so he wouldn't lie

[GT93]

Trump should have been impeached for that performance in Helsinki. Putin is a class act. He wasn't pissing himself laughing. Oh Buddha, did Trump degrade the White House. And Johnson, 10 Downing Street. It's easy for Elizabeth and Charles to look good compared the elected morons.

[Khun Paul]

At least Camilla is well past the producing yet another inter related offspring ...... enough that she and Charles are related through 2 different Ancestry lines

Don't sweat it. The Cambridge's brood mare is happily squeezing out the House of Windsor's enduring, chinless progeny.

I thought you were Pro Royalty, I see now you are as bad as that Moron that occupied the White House 2 years ago, a Republican with no respect of tradition or for that matter anything that smacks of the Establishment .

I have no problem with the UK's royalty.

The late Princess of Wales reneged on her contractual duties to make lots of Windsor babies and, as noted by others, Chuck and his consort were highly unlikely to add anything suitable. Thus it fell upon the willing thighs of Mrs Cambridge to part, lie back and think of England. Good job too since the Wessex's went off grid. I recall you subscribe to the bizarre notion that the ginger boy is being led astray by that dusky maiden from across the pond.

While I accept your notion of fealty to the Royal House of Windsor, I ask that you use polite language and NOT use your normal gutter language . In taking about them, thankyou.

Yes you are correct a wannabee so-called media star DID lead Harry astray, once the claws were put ,Harry bless him stood no chance and he lost his head along with his manliness to a whimpering female of dubious qualities.

[AlexO]

I think she should retire. A woman her age deserves to put her feet up. If the UK had functional political leadership she might.

What the hell has a functional or non functional political leadership got to do with HM The Queen staying as Head of State. She has no input into political decisions.
"The British Monarchy is known as a constitutional monarchy. This means that, while The Sovereign is Head of State, the ability to make and pass legislation resides with an elected Parliament".

In the meantime, in the real world, the Queen’s role in appointing a prime minister is one of her remaining prerogative powers. These are residual powers remaining with the Sovereign that have not been placed elsewhere. The majority of those powers are exercised on her behalf by her ministers, but the power to appoint prime ministers remains with the Queen.

Tam
While your statement is technically correct in reality HM The Queen can only invite the leader of the party who wins the General Election to form a Government. If you know of any other time that this has not happened please enlighten us. Can you imagine the Tory Party wins by a landslide "wafer thin huge majority" and the Queen then invites Steptoe to form a Government?? Has never happened and never will. HM The Queen took a pledge some 70 years ago to do her best for the UK and the Commonwealth as long as she lived. So far the Boss has honoured that pledge and will continue to do so as long as her health allows. Incidentally was quite impressed with Charlies opening speech at the recent Climate talking shop in Glasgow. He seems to have lost the chinless wonder accent and sounded almost statesman like, but who really thinks a 70 odd year old guy and his previous bit on the side should become the top doggies in the UK.

[Khun Paul]

There are arguments starting to rage over the fact HM stated Camilla should be Queen Consort, now although personally I do not give a damn either way, it is an interesting argument.
DO WE REAlly need to go down the road of a Head of State being voted in, look at other countries with elected heads of state and when they retire the huge cost of protecting them 24/7 until they die , absolutely ridiculous .
True we have the Armed forces protecting our head of state but they would exist whether H of S elected or not, might as well give them something to do when not fighting or helping with Floods, Drought, Ambulance or even vaccinations I think.
Plus the Oath of allegiance currently used by all the Armed Forces and the Police means it removes POLITICAL interference in their actions a far better idea than a Pol;itical Head of State......I mean look at America tearing itself apart

[stattointhailand]

Havent the services boys enough to do, what with delivering petrol to garages, delivering food to supermarkets, manning vaccination /covid hospital areas, organising a load of cats & dogs to get airlifted, looking after rougue fishermen, picking up asylum seekers from dingys in the channel etc etc

[AlexO]

Havent the services boys enough to do, what with delivering petrol to garages, delivering food to supermarkets, manning vaccination /covid hospital areas, organising a load of cats & dogs to get airlifted, looking after rougue fishermen, picking up asylum seekers from dingys in the channel etc etc

Why not? The armed services are there to protect and assist the Nation in times of trouble or emergency. Same as they are sent to British Protectorates who suffer catastrophic damage from natural disasters or invasion from halfwit Junta's. Should we stop that as well?

[GT93]

I feel as if tamada is giving us a bit of a tour of the royal bedrooms.

[tamada]

At least Camilla is well past the producing yet another inter related offspring ...... enough that she and Charles are related through 2 different Ancestry lines

Don't sweat it. The Cambridge's brood mare is happily squeezing out the House of Windsor's enduring, chinless progeny.

I thought you were Pro Royalty, I see now you are as bad as that Moron that occupied the White House 2 years ago, a Republican with no respect of tradition or for that matter anything that smacks of the Establishment .

I have no problem with the UK's royalty.

The late Princess of Wales reneged on her contractual duties to make lots of Windsor babies and, as noted by others, Chuck and his consort were highly unlikely to add anything suitable. Thus it fell upon the willing thighs of Mrs Cambridge to part, lie back and think of England. Good job too since the Wessex's went off grid. I recall you subscribe to the bizarre notion that the ginger boy is being led astray by that dusky maiden from across the pond.

While I accept your notion of fealty to the Royal House of Windsor, I ask that you use polite language and NOT use your normal gutter language . In taking about them, thankyou.

Yes you are correct a wannabee so-called media star DID lead Harry astray, once the claws were put ,Harry bless him stood no chance and he lost his head along with his manliness to a whimpering female of dubious qualities.

Fealty to what now? I simply said they don't rent as much space in my head as they so obviously do in yours.

Ginger boy simply fell in love you silly man.

[GT93]

They take up quite a bit of space in Piers Morgan's head too but he makes a living from that.

[tamada]

There are arguments starting to rage over the fact HM stated Camilla should be Queen Consort, now although personally I do not give a damn either way, it is an interesting argument.
DO WE REAlly need to go down the road of a Head of State being voted in, look at other countries with elected heads of state and when they retire the huge cost of protecting them 24/7 until they die , absolutely ridiculous .
True we have the Armed forces protecting our head of state but they would exist whether H of S elected or not, might as well give them something to do when not fighting or helping with Floods, Drought, Ambulance or even vaccinations I think.
Plus the Oath of allegiance currently used by all the Armed Forces and the Police means it removes POLITICAL interference in their actions a far better idea than a Pol;itical Head of State......I mean look at America tearing itself apart

All over the shop again. HM said it was her "wish" for ol' horse-face to get the queen consort label. She didn't say she "should" get it.

Is this "argument" in your busy little head? Who's talking about electing our k ing or queen?

The UK military simply pledges allegiance to the Queen and her brood of hangers-on whereas the US military pledges to protect the Constitution and follow the President's orders. Both sideline the roll of the elected government. However, regardless of who is Queen or President, the elected government has the final word on what orders get followed. That's why Alex is (still) a bit touchy about Blair. Curiously enough, neither oath or pledge says much about protecting the land and them what squats on it. Same same, but different.

As for your notion of the UK police being further removed from politics than 'over there', how come Dame Cressida Dick serves as head of the Met but only at the whim of an elected Patel and an elected Khan? Politics dictates the Chief Constables of the disparate UK police forces. Being a Freemason also gets them brownie points.

[pepesgrill]

whats wrong with william and cate. they seem
normal. good grief, they're already in their 40s

[Khun Paul]

Oh dear , lets deal with the loyalty first. Yes the Armed forces owe allegianace to the Crown which is Apolitical an d yes Most orders do require the Elected Government to issue the orders, but behind the scenes the Queen is advised and consents, mainly protocol but required.
I was NOT talking about an elected individual or Queen but it is cheaper to have the current situation that a head of State who has to be protected if he/she is retired or unelected for their life, ( how many are America looking after for example ). The cost of their protection taken together must be very costly.
You do not understand the British Police, if you did you would NOT make the statement you did.
Chief Constables are chosen by committees in the Counties but the Met is peculiar, their Head is the Home Office Minister and a committee, their funding comes direct from the Home Office and it is NOT accountable to the Population they police . The counties make sure the Police are accountable both literally and financially .
The last part being a Freemason is a crock of rubbish , never helped me in 30 years, but then there were some who tried to use it it, most that tried failed . Like those that became corrupt eventually, found out and dismissed or worse.

But then when I joined Police was a Profession like other uniformed organisations, nowadays it is a job,

[jackspratt]

But then when I joined Police was a Profession like other uniformed organisations,.....

Profession, as in professional "fitters up", and "verbalers".

I wonder what Timothy Evans, or the Birmingham Six, Guildford Four, etc etc would have to say about the "profession".

Out of interest, what was the minimum education standard to join up with the UK rozzers when you enlisted, KP?

[GT93]

Would Prince Andrew have met the standard? If so, it was too low. He would be near the bottom of any class.

[Khun Paul]

But then when I joined Police was a Profession like other uniformed organisations,.....

Profession, as in professional "fitters up", and "verbalers".

I wonder what Timothy Evans, or the Birmingham Six, Guildford Four, etc etc would have to say about the "profession".

Out of interest, what was the minimum education standard to join up with the UK rozzers when you enlisted, KP?

You know I canno0t remember, but sufficent to note that a GOOD ability to master the English language was a main point.
I think minimum passes in GCE O level in some subjects was required, height and a good positive background check . An awful of more of Ex-forces was also apparent , who learnt to be able to spe3ak to others .
Today with new impositions of employment it is now jus a job, with the security of a long term job now at4 odds with society thereby creating many who abuse the situation . I notice far more lack of loyalty generally , and as one used to say Uniform carriers, those who wear it for prestige or just learn to pass exams and become educated idiots with zero abilities to connect with the public.
The worst thing I ever encountered was the NEW Uni Grads coming in as Police Constables with accelerated promotion , promoted to Inspectors with almost Zero time on the force, not a good grounding like most of the Police Officers and coming out with ludicrous edicts. The only way to combat them was to do exactly what they said with no arguments,they soon became educated when it went wrong .

[AlexO]

Would Prince Andrew have met the standard? If so, it was too low. He would be near the bottom of any class.

Exactly the kind of inane comment people have come to expect from you.
I would remind you that Prince Andrew was a serving helicopter pilot in the Royal Navy and took an active role in the Falklands war in 82. You dont become a military helicopter aviator by just colouring in books or, making unsubstantiated comments about other people which seems to be your forte.