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British PM told to go as another minister quits

Post by arjay » June 5, 2009, 1:39 pm

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8083585.stm
PM told to go as minister quits

James Purnell has stepped down from the cabinet and told Prime Minister Gordon Brown to "stand aside".

In a letter to several newspapers, the work and pensions secretary said Mr Brown's continued leadership made a Tory victory "more, not less likely".

It comes as Labour braces itself for bad results in English local elections.


Defence Secretary John Hutton said Mr Purnell had made "the wrong decision" and Mr Brown was "the right man to lead our party and our country".

It is feared Labour may suffer badly in the elections from the MPs' expenses revelations and doubts over Mr Brown's leadership.

In the new Central Bedfordshire unitary authority Labour did not win a single seat, with 54 going to the Conservatives and 11 to the Liberal Democrats.

Mr Purnell is the third cabinet member in three days to say they are standing down.

He added: "I am therefore calling on you to stand aside to give our party a fighting chance of winning. As such I am resigning from government."

The BBC understands Mr Purnell only came to his decision to resign on Thursday but is said to have been frustrated for some time.

BBC political editor Nick Robinson said it was the first direct challenge to Mr Brown from a cabinet minister.

Mr Purnell's resignation was a message to the rest of the Labour Party to make up their minds about Mr Brown's leadership, he said.

'Undivided attention'

A Downing Street spokesman said: "The prime minister is disappointed by the resignation of James Purnell, of which he was informed shortly before 10pm."

He said Mr Brown's focus over coming days would be "restructuring the government on the big challenges facing the country for the future", tackling the global economic downturn, trust in Parliament and reforming public services.

"He will continue to give his undivided attention to addressing these great challenges facing our country and putting the interests of the British people first and foremost," he said.

Mr Purnell, a former adviser and a current friend of Tony Blair's, has acted with the ruthlessness of his mentor

Downing Street said Mr Brown was "disappointed" but would be getting on with the job but David Cameron said the government was "falling apart".

Mr Brown was set to reshuffle his team within days as he fights to hang on to his tenure as prime minister.

Mr Purnell's resignation comes as a BBC poll suggests fewer people consider the prime minister to be competent, decisive or tough than at any time in his leadership.

Only 29% of the 1,005 adults surveyed by ICM for the BBC thought that Gordon Brown was in touch with ordinary people.

In contrast, David Cameron received his most favourable scores since he became Conservative leader.

'Fighting chance'

In his letter to Mr Brown, published in Friday's newspapers, Mr Purnell said he owed it to the Labour Party to "say what I believe no matter how hard that may be".

He said he was not seeking the leadership but wrote: "I now believe your continued leadership makes a Conservative victory more, not less likely. That would be disastrous for our country."

But Conservative leader Mr Cameron, repeating his call for an immediate general election, said: "In a deep recession and a political crisis we need a strong united government. Instead we have a government falling apart in front of our eyes."

Meanwhile, other cabinet ministers have been rallying round Mr Brown.

Mr Hutton said Mr Purnell was a "good friend" but added: "I think he has made the wrong decision because I firmly believe that Gordon Brown is the right man to lead our party and our country."

Northern Ireland Secretary Shaun Woodward also said he was "deeply disappointed" by Mr Purnell's decision and that he fully backed Mr Brown.

A source close to Justice Secretary Jack Straw said he was "very surprised and deeply saddened" by the news and "remained very supportive" of Mr Brown.

And the BBC understands Foreign Secretary David Miliband, who was touted as a possible challenger to Gordon Brown's leadership last year, does not intend to resign and had said he did not agree with Mr Purnell.

Other Labour figures have strongly criticised the decision - former London mayor Ken Livingstone said it was no surprise as Mr Purnell had been "the most ultra-Blairite of ministers".

"If you were going to get a knife in the back it's where you would have expected it from," he said.

Backbencher Peter Kilfoyle, one of the few Labour MPs not to back Mr Brown for the leadership in 2007, told the BBC: "I'm very dismayed by the attitude of people like Purnell and indeed Hazel Blears."

He said they had been "self serving" in backing Mr Brown for the leadership and the cabinet should back him now: "They have a wider responsibility than merely their personal careers. It's also about the future of the Labour Party, not just in government but in the country."

The news comes as the polls closed across the UK for the European elections and, in England, 27 county and seven unitary council elections.

Secret ballot

Senior Labour backbencher Barry Sheerman told the BBC there should be a ballot of Labour MPs to see if Gordon Brown still has the confidence of the party.

He said: "This goes far beyond just a few people, this is a large number of us who are really unhappy about the present situation."

But Labour's leader in the Lords Baroness Royall defended Mr Brown's style of leadership on BBC One's Question Time.

The Tory leader used his Webcameron site to react to the resignation

She said: "We haven't got a media star, we have got a person who works damned hard and is taking us through the economic crisis."

There have been predictions Labour could be pushed into third or fourth place in the Euro elections behind the UK Independence Party (UKIP), following damaging revelations about expenses claims in the Daily Telegraph.

Mr Brown's much anticipated reshuffle was pre-empted earlier this week with the news that Jacqui Smith had asked to step down as home secretary.

Fevered atmosphere

She later said she believed Gordon Brown was the right person to lead the Labour Party but was stepping down for her family - who had been "at the forefront" of expenses allegations against her.

Then Hazel Blears announced on Wednesday that she would be stepping down as communities secretary.

In her resignation statement she did not pay the customary tribute to the prime minister, who weeks ago had described her own actions on expenses as "totally unacceptable".

Alistair Darling's position as chancellor is also thought to be vulnerable after questions about his expenses.

Amid a fevered atmosphere at Westminster - where the expenses saga has dominated the agenda during the election - two junior ministers Beverley Hughes and Tom Watson have also said they are to step down.

Some Labour backbench MPs say they are circulating a letter among MPs seeking support for a call on Mr Brown to go.

About 70 Labour MPs would be required to nominate a specific alternative candidate to trigger a leadership contest.



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Post by old-timer » June 5, 2009, 2:01 pm

bloxoxs. re structure and get on with it, this expenses claim thing seems to be running the country (UK), who gives a **** about paying 2k for a moat...get the politics right for us English people.....

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Post by jimboLV » June 5, 2009, 2:18 pm

Actually it's good to see the Brits finally have something to moan about on here. It was getting tiresome reading about the bashing of ex-American presidents. For cripes sake, we're now down to bashing American presidents who went out of office twenty years ago. Pretty soon we'll be bashing the administration of Rutherford B. Hayes.

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Post by arjay » June 5, 2009, 2:25 pm

JimboLV, yes it certainly was getting tiresome reading about the bashing of American presidents, past and present! ;) :lol: I thought I would balance things up with some observations (not moans) about the current British political situation, the situation that the current British PM finds himself in, and how his predecessor timed his departure well! :D

Blair certainly timed it right with his departure, just before the ship hit the rocks: what with the boom & bust/financial meltdown, banks bailout, failures of the regulatory bodies to detect the impending doom, and now more recently the abuses by many MP's of their expenses claims, along with huge increases in government debt and imminent increases in taxation. #-o #-o #-o :-" :-" :-"

I can't help feeling just the slightest bit sorry for Gordon Brown currently, - only a little, mind you!! :fryingpan:

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Post by seymourbutts » June 5, 2009, 3:16 pm

I think people are finally waking up to the fact that these people are working for us not we are working for them... Every penny they steal from expenses is our money and not theirs..This has certainly opened a lot of peoples eyes about mp's serving only themselves... And why are they being allowed to step down at the next election?? this allows them to draw a large pension and get a lump sum... Also why are they being allowed to give money back?? Its the same as me robbing a bank, being caught and saying no problem i will give it back!!!! They should be sacked on the spot!!!! The same as you or i would for the same offence!!

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Post by BobHelm » June 5, 2009, 3:25 pm

I must admit I was quite happy to see Tony win the first time. The Conservatives were a busted flush who were going nowhere & he seemed like a breath of fresh air. Sadly the air bit was right but should have been preceded with the words 'full of'. :(
Were lucky enough to run UK when economy was flowing and very little to make in the way of decisions. However the decisions he did have to make he didn't really light any fires for the ordinary Briton.
Iraqi - offered bad advice & support to the American President.
Economy - screwed all the private pension funds & did nothing constructive to help the Government scheme. Just about the best economic conditions possible for the UK & still increased Government debt.
General Laws - more "anti" laws passed to 'correct' peoples' life style than any other Government ever - anti smoking & anti hunting to name but two.
However, the Conservatives are not exactly setting the world alight with their forward thinking policies to drag UK out of the mire....
Bring back Guy Fawkes :D :D
I have been following the "expenses" scandal with some interest - especially as the system has been abused by members of both parties. Admittedly it might seem petty, but it is not. These people already get salaries that are far in excess than they could ever expect to earn in the free market for their skills & ability. On top of that they get tax free expenses of all sorts (which a private individual would be taxed on if the inland revenue would even agree to them) allowances for two houses & a pension scheme that is only surpassed by some of the 'fat cat' contracts...

I will not be exercising my right to vote as I honestly believe that no one will be standing that will have my interests anywhere in his or her thoughts. The more intelligent ones are crooks & charlatans, the many lower on the IQ scale are just too low to see a good idea if it had a sign on it & bit them.... :( :(

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Post by JimboPSM » June 5, 2009, 3:52 pm

BobHelm wrote:........ These people already get salaries that are far in excess than they could ever expect to earn in the free market for their skills & ability....
... but although the salaries are in excess of what many of the current incumbents are worth in the free market unfortunately they are insufficient to attract people of the right calibre (unless they also have private funds - and there are not so many of those these days) :(

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Post by vlad » June 6, 2009, 2:37 am

Bob the defence secretary has called it time as well john huttun and he is my local mp. Brown is getting hammered in the local council elections. More bad news to come when the euro election vote's are in on sunday. The local news is saying a general election is imminent even the BNP are taking seats off them.
As for the expenses row 1 minister in the labour group donated £5-00 to a church fund and promptly claimed it back. This is what has brought the labour goverment down. ps im still here.

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Post by westerby » June 6, 2009, 2:41 am

old-timer wrote:bloxoxs. re structure and get on with it, this expenses claim thing seems to be running the country (UK), who gives a **** about paying 2k for a moat...get the politics right for us English people.....
Too right you old Scrote - vote UKIP for the European parliament. That'll give the big parties something to think about. Wait for Sunday!

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Post by saint » June 6, 2009, 8:20 am

does it really matter which party runs the country ? as long as i can remember theyve all promised salvation for the country , and the country has continued to slide further into the mire . to me they are all lieing pigs with their snouts in the trough of plenty . i would love to see zero turnout in the next general election . treat them with exactly the same contempt that they treat the voter . maybe then they may have to start thinking of the responsibilities that their office should hold , instead of their own ends .

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Post by BobHelm » June 6, 2009, 9:28 am

Don't disagree with a word you said saint....
Except I have always believed that voting should be compulsory in UK, but there should be a box to enable people to vote for "None of the above". The embarrassment factor when that gets more votes than the winner hopefully will make them rethink.
Yes I agree that you get what you pay for Jimbo. It is just with 650 of them with their snouts in the trough I would not be happy paying them a substantial salary for really no more than just attendance. The party whips even tell them which way to vote so they don't even have to worry about reading anything - even if they are (un)fortunate enough to be on one of the many committees..

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Post by JimboPSM » June 6, 2009, 9:30 am

saint wrote:does it really matter which party runs the country ? .......
Which reminded me of this classic from "Yes Prime Minister":
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Post by BobHelm » June 6, 2009, 10:09 am

Yes, good find Jimbo.
British comedy at its' best, especially as there was always more than a grain of truth behind the humour....

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