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Swiss Banks Shun Americans

Post by WBU ALUM » June 29, 2009, 6:34 pm

And it could be happening soon for all Americans living abroad in any country.
“American citizens are starting to feel like they’re Typhoid Mary,” said Adams who hosted a 2008 fundraiser for Barack Obama that featured actor George Clooney. “The Swiss simply don’t want American customers because it requires so much infrastructure and hassle that they don’t make any money.”

Sandra Dysli, an American who has lived in Geneva for 40 years, said Bank Zweiplus AG, the Zurich-based joint venture of Basel-based Bank Sarasin & Cie. and AIG Private Bank, and a Geneva branch of Raiffeisen International Bank-Holding AG refused to open investment accounts for her.

“I was told that I cannot legally be a client because I’m an American,” said Dysli, who retired from the United Nations in 2001. “I couldn’t get an investment account and had everything in cash.”
My how things change in a very short time. Illegal aliens in the US are treated better by the government and IRS than US citizens living in foreign countries.
Two members of the U.S. Congress, Carolyn Maloney and Joe Wilson, wrote a May 27 letter to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner saying that if the QI requirements are extended to cash or deposit accounts, “taxpaying Americans living abroad will have no place to bank.”

“If neither foreign nor American banks will take American customers, how will the millions of citizens living abroad bank?” wrote Maloney, a New York Democrat, and Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, who are co-chairmen of the Americans Abroad Caucus.

There is “massive” failure by U.S. citizens and green card holders overseas to make filings with the IRS, said Matthew Ledvina, an international tax lawyer in Zurich, adding that Americans have become “pariahs because they’re risky.”

Presumption of Guilt

U.S. citizens must file tax returns, report offshore accounts that contain more than $10,000 and pay tax on any income earned, no matter where they live. To take advantage of the amnesty program, taxpayers must file six years of returns, plus pay back taxes and a penalty, according to the IRS.

“The presumption is that you’re a bad person avoiding taxes if you live overseas,” according to Andy Sundberg, who founded Geneva-based American Citizens Abroad in 1978. “The IRS rhetoric is alienating and vindictive.”
Swiss Banks Shun Americans

Has the IRS rhetoric ever been amicable and helpful? There's a new sheriff in town, and he wants every dime. He also wants to control every aspect of every American's life. Put your seatbelts on, Patriots.



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Post by WBU ALUM » July 17, 2009, 8:21 am

This writer throws a new twist into the Swiss bank account fiasco.

Reuters Blogs: James Pethokoukis
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The push by the Justice Department, along with the Internal Revenue Service, to compel UBS to fork over the names of some 52,000 American taxpayers with banking accounts in Switzerland may produce an important benefit for the Obama administration — or so it might think. How so? Those presumably wealthy 52,000 taxpayers, along with some two million other upper-income Americans, can be drafted to help pay for U.S. healthcare reform.
There is something very sinister about a government that goes after every nickel and dime it can get its grubby hands on. I'm often reminded of an often-repeated statement in America: "All the money that the government has is money they forcibly took from you."

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Re: Swiss Banks Shun Americans

Post by JimboPSM » July 17, 2009, 11:12 am

According to the Financial Report of the US Government, the annual gross tax gap was estimated for 2008 to be 345.0 billion dollars.

Simple maths makes the “nickel and dime” relating to those 52,000 (non) taxpayers at only 6.6 million USD each - hardly seems to be worth the trouble #-o

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Re: Swiss Banks Shun Americans

Post by laphanphon » July 17, 2009, 2:20 pm

they are fighting with me over taxes, and i'm guess they will pay legal fees and salaries equal to what the want me to pay, and i will pay about the same as they want me to pay in legal fees to avoid paying, simply out of principle, that i believe i am correct, and they are wrong.

usa, one of, if not the only, country that expects you to pay taxes on money you made overseas while living there, and not taxing the usa system at all, as using none of what the taxes are paid for. that's why many that have been gone for 20-30 years and haven't paid into soc sec/medicare, renounce their citizenship if not planning on returning, while get taxed twice, country you live and work, and usa, where some haven't been for decades.

i paid more than my share of taxes, especially high real estate and school taxes, and never had kids. when i was in relationship w/kids, sent to private school, as public school district sucked. though i like being in the position of getting most, if not all my income taxes/soc sec taxes returned in benefits. may i live long and continue to be a blight on usa society. \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ \:D/ sadly medical isn't available for those no living in usa. :crying: :crying: :crying:

though this year will be a killer, sadly i'll make a bit of pennies, may take me a few years to get back on the negative tax ratio/benefit used. but that must mean i did ok. i have no problem with the economy or the stock market, treating me damn good. although those cost of living increases are a joke, and a better exchange rate and inflation control would mean more in the pocket, but i don't think yanks living overseas are struggling, or they obviously wouldn't be there. :fryingpan: :fryingpan:

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