assange in big trouble now

[yartims]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46232609

The US Justice Department is preparing charges against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange, reports in the US say.

The reports came as a filing in a separate court case hinted that charges were being prepared. Justice officials said the filing was made in error.

Mr Assange fled to Ecuador's London embassy in 2012 to evade since-dropped sex assault charges and has stayed over fears of extradition to the US.

It is not clear what charges Mr Assange would face.

[Laan Yaa Mo]

And, do you have any insight or comments you would like to make on this matter, or is it just a cut and paste for our edification?

[MALC]

the man is a true hero

[Giggle]

He's a sniveling little coward.

[Stantheman]

He's a sniveling little coward.

Hot Damn, one of the few times I actually agree with Giggles. Assange is a piece of horse manure who should have been kicked out of the Embassy a long time ago

[Marcosteffano]

I can't see why there's so much hate for this man who's probably helped 1,000s of people whistle blow on so much.i see America just wanting him on trumped up charges to hush him up.i think he's been in self imprisonment for 6 years for his belief in the truth and exposing the evils and corruption carried out by people,organisations and countries around the world.i say good luck to the guy for what he has done for the fight of freedom of speech and exposing what he has.as for the propaganda that the American government spew out about him I think most level headed people can see through that.oh he's a sex offender,oh he's colluded with the Russians,next they will say hes been dancing with the devil.

[Giggle]

If I swung by your house this afternoon and rifled through your mailbox, posting on this forum everything I found, would you consider me a hero? A savior?

Just look at him. He's a cowering, milksop, runaway sissy. He wants nothing more than to be thought of as a martyr. He's a girly-boy coward.

[Natas]

I cannot believe I agree with Giggles on this.
I have bern following this "Hacker" for years.. There is one thing he forgot to do.. Leave his precious ego aside.
Here is a scenerio. You come across some information that could possibly create social chaos or get people killed.. Do you release this information to further your own attention seeking motives..?
"with great power comes great responsibility"..
Juilan Assange deserves what he has created.

[yartims]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/ ... ve-embassy

[Natas]

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2018/ ... ve-embassy

Wow.. I bet he does not have to dye his hair white now...

[jackspratt]

So finally this farce has come to an end - for the time being, anyway.

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is on a flight home to Australia after pleading guilty to a felony espionage charge in a US court, under a deal negotiated with the Department of Justice.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-06-26/ ... /104022410

[pipoz4444]

Australia as a nation should hang their head in shame, as should all the Politicians from both sides of the spectrum, Labor and Liberal alike, for not taking care of one of their own, or at least for not insisting on the transparency of justice. I expected more from Australia.

What was his crime? Oh yes, exposing the bigger war crimes perpetuated by American Politicians and their Military leaders, under the reign Bush and Obama. And Obama commuted Manning's sentence, the man who collated the information.

I used to think that Australia was a country with independence and strength, who would stand up for their people and argue for justice of one of their own, but not anymore. Our Politicians (from both sides) are nothing buy Wimps who will gladly S...k the C...k of some other Countries, and turn a blind eye on one of their own.

In the International political forum, we are nothing but a country of "Beggars".

As for the UK government, well they just towed line of politically correct line and did the bidding of the corrupt American institutions (DOJ and others). One can only hope that the chickens come home to roost in the UK one day, much the same as the British Post Office Scandal and or that other Nations see the UK for what it really is . nothing but a "Spent Force" and soon to be a Beggar too.

Some may hold a different view to me, BWGAFF.

But one thing is for sure, these days, "If you are an Australian overseas, don't hold your breath waiting for any Australian Government to help you as a citizen overseas, unless of course, you are a Drug Dealer or a P ...phile. Only then will they come to your assistance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXxW0aqvW4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-A5_HeO5Uo

Pipoz4444

[tamada]

Australia as a nation should hang their head in shame, as should all the Politicians from both sides of the spectrum, Labor and Liberal alike, for not taking care of one of their own, or at least for not insisting on the transparency of justice. I expected more from Australia.

What was his crime? Oh yes, exposing the bigger war crimes perpetuated by American Politicians and their Military leaders, under the reign Bush and Obama. And Obama commuted Manning's sentence, the man who collated the information.

I used to think that Australia was a country with independence and strength, who would stand up for their people and argue for justice of one of their own, but not anymore. Our Politicians (from both sides) are nothing buy Wimps who will gladly S...k the C...k of some other Countries, and turn a blind eye on one of their own.

In the International political forum, we are nothing but a country of "Beggars".

As for the UK government, well they just towed line of politically correct line and did the bidding of the corrupt American institutions (DOJ and others). One can only hope that the chickens come home to roost in the UK one day, much the same as the British Post Office Scandal and or that other Nations see the UK for what it really is . nothing but a "Spent Force" and soon to be a Beggar too.

Some may hold a different view to me, BWGAFF.

But one thing is for sure, these days, "If you are an Australian overseas, don't hold your breath waiting for any Australian Government to help you as a citizen overseas, unless of course, you are a Drug Dealer or a P ...phile. Only then will they come to your assistance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXxW0aqvW4U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-A5_HeO5Uo

Pipoz4444

How about the other 192 countries of the world? What's their stance on press freedoms? How're they doing?

[jackspratt]

Australia as a nation should hang their head in shame, as should all the Politicians from both sides of the spectrum, Labor and Liberal alike, for not taking care of one of their own, or at least for not insisting on the transparency of justice. I expected more from Australia.


Pipoz4444

Your indignation seems rather late in developing, Pipo.

Where have you been for the past 13 years in expressing your outrage on the Map at the treatment of Assange?

And even more curious when it appears his recent release is as a direct result of pressure from the current Australian government, which has reportedly been pushing behind the scenes since it received the keys to The Lodge just 2 years ago.

[Bandung_Dero]

But one thing is for sure, these days, "If you are an Australian overseas, don't hold your breath waiting for any Australian Government to help you as a citizen overseas, unless of course, you are a Drug Dealer or a P ...phile.

Pipoz4444

Whilst I sit on the fence when it comes to Assange's rights or wrongs I find it absolutely extraordinary our PM phoned the guy, just after his landing in Aust. and welcomed him home --- publicly. What an effin idiot!!!!

Then of coarse we had the other idiot, ex PM Keven Rudd, escorting him to Saipan????

This is all done using private jets, who's paying the bin for that??

[jackspratt]

Dero, why do you find extraordinary that a politician seeks some limelight in what seems to be a pretty popular result in Oz?

[Bandung_Dero]

A private phone call OK but how much of the US congress has he pissed off by going public?

[pipoz4444]

Hi and I am not interested in the other 192 No Countries and or their free speech issues.

Part of my post was about the issue of an Australian Government not standing up for the rights of one of their citizens overseas and ensuring that the Law (in the UK) was properly administered in an unbiased way, free of political pressure. That and the UK Government and or Court not abiding by their own reasonable standards of proof of guilt before incarcerating someone indefinitely.

Regardless, Assange was never actually charged by the USA for a crime to my knowledge, let along proven to be guilty of that alleged crime. As I say, to my knowledge.

Yet two countries appear to have politically conspired (USA & UK) to keep him on ice / incarcerate him in prison captivity only on the basis of an alleged crime and not a proven one.

Also as far as I am aware, the USA DOJ never actually presented a prima facie case in a UK Court to demonstrate that he had actually committed the crime they alleged, certainly not sufficient enough to warrant his extradition to the USA. Rather the USA simply insisted on the fact that he should be extradited and requested that the UK Court grant their wish of extradition to the USA for trial, and that is a long way away from proving a mans guilt of a crime.

So in future, is it just the case that all the USA DOJ has to do is to allege that you have committed a crime (in their eyes) and then the rest of the world has to jump the same tune and simply extradite their citizens and others, to the USA for so called justice in some distant future. Is that where we are going and if so, what makes the eyes of the USA DOJ correct for the whole World to have to follow. I mean the USA DOJ is not a corrupt institution is it and it have never been politically influenced has it??

I don't know the legal basis / reason for why the UK Court/ Government held him at BELMARSH maximum security prison for 1901 days, but I would wouldn't mind knowing what that legal basis / reason was. Maybe it was because he overstayed his Visa.

My post is not about the issue of free speech, it is about one Country who was should to be guilty of Crime by Documents using their political influence on other Countries arguably to send a message, that we can do what we want and get what we want, regardless of the Law in that other Country.

It's also about the legality of incarcerating a person for 5 years plus in the UK, until he is forced to agree to please guilty to a crime in another Country (USA)

So I question, what has the the views of the USA DOJ go to do with the administration of the Law in the UK.

The whole thing stinks and if anyone in Thailand was to be locked up in the Bangkok Hilton for 5 Years, because of an alleged crime against the USA, they would be p....d as well.

pipoz4444

[pipoz4444]

Australia as a nation should hang their head in shame, as should all the Politicians from both sides of the spectrum, Labor and Liberal alike, for not taking care of one of their own, or at least for not insisting on the transparency of justice. I expected more from Australia.


Pipoz4444

Your indignation seems rather late in developing, Pipo.

Where have you been for the past 13 years in expressing your outrage on the Map at the treatment of Assange?

And even more curious when it appears his recent release is as a direct result of pressure from the current Australian government, which has reportedly been pushing behind the scenes since it received the keys to The Lodge just 2 years ago.

You wouldn't know JS. But then again I would not expect you to know what I have been doing or where.

You may well see my post in an indignate light. I see it in another way.

But let me ask you a Yes/No question, "Do you think his treatment has been fair"? Its either a Yes or a No JS.

Re Your last Paragraph. YES you may be correct, but it is all a little to late. The incumbent Government may be due some kudos, but the ones before (on both sides) certainly can't claim the same and should hang their heads.

I would also bet that if you were to take a Poll on the issue of Assange's treatment and incarceration in BELMARSH maximum security prison for 1901 days, that most fair minded Australian's would not be too impressed with either the Australian Governments inaction over the years and or the UK Government / Courts action.

pipoz4444

[jackspratt]

Pipo I have been consistent in my views on the injustice that was perpetrated on Assange for 29 posts on this Forum, going back to August of 2010.

I note this was your first post on the issue since you joined in 2011. But along with many positive things in your post, you chose to conflate and slam the apparent inaction of 9 years of conservative governments with the positive, and successful actions of the current progressive government.

All a bit strange to me.