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Post by bumper » August 21, 2010, 10:40 am

Haha, yes Ray your right. Not that the Asian Countries agree because they see us as US and Uk partners and not Asian. Your also right that the interest rates have gone up and look to go up further in the short term. Google Fortiscue Metals if you want a good investment (spelling) :D
Thanks wish I could I only trade in Thailand I don't have the money for the big boys yet. In watching CNBC this morning some AAA stocks are really cheap now. But still beyond my means. Per them when people come out of bonds, that market will be bullish.

But speaking of vicious circles when that happens the dollar drops. It's kind of got down to you can't beat find a way to join um and offset some loss.

If a financial dummy like me can do it anyone can with a little money. I honestly don't think we will see much in changes for a few years. We have elections coming up Thailand a year or so from now, anyone else notice how Issan is being courted these days. But the reality the real money people here, are making money on that exchange rate, when they stop making money I believe we will see a different direction form the BOT.

Something like the auto's and a few more like it will effect the big money here, Rice isn't going to do it, I think we know that now. We still have farm subsidies in the states, why cause people got to eat, simple as that. The costs in farming anywhere isn't cheap anywhere today. So they throw crumbs to the farmers to keep them working just as we do in the states.

Have you guys noticed that the budget committee is complaining about the current budgets. The Democrats here have said it will take five years to have a balanced budget here. But ,those little snipits are largely ignored.



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Re: Baht What up with Dat?????

Post by nkstan » August 21, 2010, 2:13 pm

Still going down!31.45 at the moment! :roll:

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Post by bumper » August 21, 2010, 2:40 pm

The news about the dollar index was on CNBC this morning,. Thailand things are closed, if there is going to be an effect more then likely Monday before we see it. I'm not convienced there will be an effect.

You know of the things that would help a lot of us is to go back to the old ATM fee's. Wouldn't mean much to me I only do that once a month now. I think the Banks have got enough blood money out of us for awhile.

Just a thought I believe that Thailand has overcome the bad press about being dangerous. Bit, it's not as inexpensive to come here for a vacation a it used to be. There are other Asia destinations that offer pretty much the same thing for considerably less money.

Oh well what do I know I have been waiting for the other shoe to drop for years, it hasn't thus far

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Post by parrot » August 21, 2010, 7:15 pm

Too bad immigration numbers are considered a 'state secret' (well, it certainly seems they are). It'd be interesting to compare a particular country's expat numbers against currency rates.

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Post by KHONDAHM » August 22, 2010, 7:28 am

The baht action is and will continue to be a dollar supply-side event. BOT and policies have very little to do with the baht strength. As I've posted ad naseum, as more dollars are created out of thin air and put into the money supply, the dollars out there already lose value. This will continue until the USA stops running deficits - which it can't for at least the next decade or more. Anyone in Thailand would be wise to get into hard assets fast. A big shoe is going to drop before the end of the year...

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Post by bumper » August 22, 2010, 1:50 pm

Thai Baht, Malaysia's Ringgit Lead Asian Currencies Rise on Growth Outlook
By Yumi Teso - Aug 21, 2010 5:48 AM GMT+0700

Asian currencies gained this week, led by the Thai baht and Malaysia’s ringgit, as regional growth that’s forecast to surpass developed markets and relatively high yields attract investors.

The baht appreciated the most for a week since March after the central bank signaled currency gains that are in line with the regional trend can be tolerated. The ringgit reached a 13- year high after Malaysia reported its economy expanded faster than economists predicted in the second quarter and the monetary authority eased currency curbs.

“Asia’s economy is stronger than other regions and there’s the outlook for interest-rate hikes in some countries,” said Tetsuo Yoshikoshi, a senior economist at Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corp. in Singapore. “So investors are pouring money into the region selectively.”

The baht rose 1.2 percent this week to 31.51 per dollar in Bangkok, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The ringgit advanced 1 percent to 3.1395 and the Philippine peso gained 0.6 percent to 45.025.

Developing economies in Asia will expand 9.2 percent in 2010, outpacing growth of 2.6 percent in advanced countries, the International Monetary Fund said on July 7.

Stock exchange data show global funds have pumped more than $22 billion into India, South Korea, Indonesia and Taiwan this year as central banks around the region raise interest rates.

Baht Gains

Thailand’s currency has climbed 0.3 percent since central bank Governor Tarisa Watanagase said on Aug. 18 that the bank is “not concerned” about the baht’s gains, provided it moves in line with other Asian currencies. The rising baht won’t hurt the nation’s export competitiveness, she said.

“After the central bank said they are not concerned about the baht’s strength, interbank players sold the dollar against the baht,” said Disawat Tiaowvanich, a foreign-exchange trader at Bangkok Bank Pcl, the nation’s biggest lender. “Foreigners are still buying the Thai baht for investment.”

Economists in a Bloomberg survey predict the Bank of Thailand will increase borrowing costs by a quarter of a percentage point on Aug. 25 to 1.75 percent.

Malaysia’s ringgit reached its strongest level since 1997 after data this week showed the economy expanded 8.9 percent in the second quarter, beating the 8.4 percent median forecast in a Bloomberg survey of economists. Domestic companies can now settle cross-border transactions in ringgit and exporters can hedge currency risks beyond a previous 12-month threshold, Bank Negara Malaysia said on Aug. 18.

Philippine Remittances

The Philippine peso climbed as data showed money sent home by overseas citizens, which accounts for about a 10th of the economy, climbed the most in five months in June. The currency also approached its strongest level in three months after bids for a retail government bond totaled almost five times the amount on offer.

“The momentum is there,” said Rafael Algarra, treasurer at Security Banking Corp. in Manila. “We should probably see the peso continue to strengthen. Remittances remain strong.”

The Vietnamese dong dropped 2.1 percent to 19,475 after the central bank this week devalued the currency for a third time in the past year to boost exports.

Elsewhere, the Singapore dollar gained 0.7 percent this week to S$1.3539 against its U.S. counterpart and the Indonesian rupiah rose 0.1 percent to 8,973. Taiwan’s dollar climbed 0.1 percent to NT$31.935. South Korea’s won was little changed at 1,183.13 from 1,183.70 a week earlier.

To contact the reporter on this story: Yumi Teso in Bangkok at yteso1@bloomberg.net

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Post by nkstan » August 25, 2010, 9:45 am

Another baht strengthening move!

BoT may raise interest rate today

Bank of Thailand's Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) is expected to raise its policy interest rate again today by 25 basis points, the second such rise since April 2009, in the light of better-than-expected economic performance driven by exports, investment and domestic consumption.

After the 25-basis-points increase on July 14, a similar increase today would see the policy interest rate reach 1.75 per cent. Research houses expect yet another hike of 25 basis points to 2 per cent in October or some time before the end of this year.

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Post by bumper » August 25, 2010, 11:04 am

Boy this is being between a rock and hard place.

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Post by nkstan » August 25, 2010, 11:26 am

Well it has been anticipated,so it might have already been build into the present quotes!But it doesn't nothing to change or stop the trend downward!

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Post by JimboPSM » August 25, 2010, 12:17 pm

I have been monitoring financial and economic news for some thirty years (formerly from a business perspective and now as a hobby) - I like to check to see if the actual moves resulting from economic news matches my assessment of what those moves should be.

For most of the last decade (out of enlightened self-interest) I have been keeping pretty close tabs on the movement of the THB.

Until about three years ago I felt there was a reasonable correlation between economic news in the US and in Thailand and the resultant movements in the THB – however, since the end of the two tier system there does not appear to have been (IMHO) a full return to a free market in the THB as I only rarely find a correlation between economic news and movements in the THB these days.

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Post by bumper » August 25, 2010, 12:43 pm

Just a thought and not start a storm. I can see a real advantage to some wealthy folks and Banks. IMHO the banks here are going to far. I long ago gave up on the idea they would try to support export, not with the numbers they are hitting.

another aspect that bothers me we have been told about the huge cash reserves Thailand has, yet it is borrowing from the World Bank and ASEAN. The Budget committee last week warned the Government that they are borrowing more the GDP can support. Yet the loan package was passed. The PM said they need five years to have a balances budget.

I don't remember one thing that indicated that Thailand was using stimulus, to support the economy. Yet it is obvious that is what has been going on.

I'm not sure but I think we are within a year of an election. looks to me like the Democrats are suing the National Budget to assure they get the Issan vote.

The foreign money keeps pouring even yesterday, even with the SET drop. Good for stocks not good for not the baht rate for us.

Interest rate increase, I just don't see how we are going to come out on that. Not going to send an increase in the savings rate that will match what we lose. Might a help a bit on inflation. Do I think they will pass it. I bought shares in Thai Merchant Bank today, which I'm looking at as a short term buy, They have not paid dividends since 2007. So not my norm.

Man good to see you back Jimbo, missed your input.

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Post by JimboPSM » August 25, 2010, 12:59 pm

bumper wrote:.... another aspect that bothers me we have been told about the huge cash reserves Thailand has, yet it is borrowing from the World Bank and ASEAN.....
When I read some of the economic articles they somehow bring to mind "The Emperor's New Clothes" by Hans Christian Andersen :-k

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Post by bumper » August 25, 2010, 2:51 pm

Breakingnews » Breakingnews
MPC raises RP rate by 0.25%

* Published: 25/08/2010 at 02:38 PM
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The meeting of the central bank’s Monetary Policy Committee (MPC) on Wednesday decided to raise the repurchase rate (RP) by 0.25%, from 1.50% to 1.75%, reports said.

The new policy rate takes effect immediately.

The panel said the policy rate is now on an upward trend, in line with economic recovery, the reports said.
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Post by nkstan » August 28, 2010, 9:32 am

More bad news for the future of our exchange rates!

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Post by nkstan » August 28, 2010, 9:52 am

Continuing down,31.24 to USD!

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Post by KHONDAHM » August 29, 2010, 2:45 am

nkstan wrote:Continuing down,31.24 to USD!
As I've been calling it for awhile already: nothing is going to stop the dollar death spiral. Sub 30 before year-end. A shock is coming...

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Post by trubrit » August 29, 2010, 9:21 am

KHONDAHM wrote:
nkstan wrote:Continuing down,31.24 to USD!
As I've been calling it for awhile already: nothing is going to stop the dollar death spiral. Sub 30 before year-end. A shock is coming...
Khondahm. You do seem to take a perverse pleasure in predicting the demise of the dollar, actually seeming to gloat on being right .May I suggest you spare a thought for those that are already being adversely affected. I have learnt that some are already having their cars and even their houses repossessed because of the dollars decline .Lots more must be getting worried by its future movement . So please , a little more humility wouldn't go amiss . [-o<
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Post by bumper » August 29, 2010, 10:58 am

Good thought sometimes I think we forget this isn't just numbers, people are getting hurt.

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Post by cookie » August 29, 2010, 6:48 pm

bumper wrote:Good thought sometimes I think we forget this isn't just numbers, people are getting hurt.
this is indeed one of those moments when you hate to say: " I told you so" :( :( :(

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