Introduction of charges on foreign ATM wdls by Thai banks

[laphanphon]

wrong bank, thai krung will take my tc card, n/charge.

ok, went to atm, no 150 charge, no withdrawal, no card................ate my F'g card, which is why i never use atm's not connected to the bank itself. ok, tried to use card, been quite some time, type in password wrong twice, 3rd time, correct, but it rejected it again. met friend, almost finish a beer, and exit, try again, knowing i type in proper password...............card suspended, card retained......lovely.

it expires in 3 days anyway

[aznyron]

that one of my fears using ATM out side the bank if it eat it what do you do ? back in the states you go to the bank which owns the machine and they will return it to you with proper I.D.

[laphanphon]

yes, always use one at the bank, when open. if eaten, inside, they open and give back right away, happened at least 3 times to me.

[bumper]

Or yuo wait until they do they ATM route and then they will give it back in a few days. Did twice to my American card and I raised hell for hours till I got it back. thats not an easy one to replace. Last one was local card first day of Songkran I just cancelled it I knew it was going to be after Songkran befoer I saw that agian to much room for things to go wrong. Cost me 350 baht. But. it didn't cost me everything I had in the acccount.

Even using the ATM's in front of banks I have had them tell me to come back in four days, not going to happen, they got the keys.

My rule second time through I stop, if it's the American card takes at least six weeks to replace it. So I go to a different branch the following day. It can and has happened to me on a machine malfunction first time through

[aznyron]

inside the bank they swipe your card no machine to chew it up or keep it that what makes it safe for me

[bumper]

Thats a pretty good idea.

[bumper]

Ok not enough confusion yet, originally I thought this was a Government move. Now I'm seeing it's a move by the Thai Bankers Association. I beleive that is a private entity. So I'm going to post the list again and the question is are there any banks with ATMS in town that are not a part of the Thai Bankers Association?

As far as I'm concered this fee is usery. I could see for example doubling the fee which would be fifty close to what atm fees are in the U.S. but in this case they have incresed the fee 7 times in one move. Since this is not a Goverment entity this is one time I think a letter campiagn may actually do some good. Evbery baht that we spend there in bringing baht into the coutry is a baht that will no spent in the community where it is needed most. So I'm thinking about these banks but Also the Finance Minister, BOT, Interior Minister, Thailand Chamber of Commerce, American Chamber of Commerce in Thailand, the TAT.

Next question anyone care to complete a form letter we can use, with the way I write I would be the last person who could do that. My proposal is to bury these guys in e-mails and express how detructive we find this to be to the Thai economy at a time like this. Wrong move Wrong time a far as I'm concerned. One letter from me would mean little. But thousand of letter may brign it to someones attention.

The alternative is sit here and complain and not try.

TBA ClubsTBA Members

TBA Members

Name President Address
BANGKOK BANK PCL.

Mr. Chartsiri Sophonpanich
Head Office : 333 Silom Rd., BKK 10500 THAILAND
Tel : (66) 231-4333
Fax : (66) 0-2231-4632
website : http://www.bangkokbank.com/

KRUNG THAI BANK PCL.

Mr. Apisak Tantivorawong
Head Office : 35 Sukhumvit Rd., Klongtoey, BKK 10110, THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2255-2222
Fax : (66) 0-2256 -8898
website : http://www.ktb.co.th/

BANK OF AYUDHYA PCL.

Mr. Tan Kong Khoon
Head Office : 1222 Rama III Rd., Bangponghang, Yannawa, BKK. ,10330 THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2296-2000
Fax : (66) 0-2683-1304
website : http://www.krungsri.com


KASIKORNBANK PCL.

Dr. Prasarn Trairatvorakul
Head Office : 1 Thai Farmers Lane, Ratburana Rd., BKK 10140, THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2222-0000
Fax : (66) 0-2470-2749
website : http://www.kasikornbank.com/

THAI MILITARY BANK PCL.

Dr. Boontuck Wungcharoen
Head Office : 3000 Phaholyothin Rd., Chatuchak, BKK 10900, THAILAND
Tel. : (66) 0- 299-1111
Fax : (66) 0-2273-7118
website : http://www.tmbbank.com/


SIAM COMMERCIAL BANK PCL.


Mrs.Kannikar Chalitaporn
Head Office : 9 Rajadapisek Rd., Chatuchak, BKK 10900, THAILAND
Tel : (66 ) 0-2777-7777
Fax : (66) 0-2777-7000
website : http://www.scb.co.th/


STANDARD CHARTERED (THAI) BANK PCL.

Mr. Mark Devadason
Head Office : 90 North Sathorn Rd., BKK 10500, THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2724-4000
Fax : (66) 0-2724-8008
website : http://www.standardchartered.com/

SIAM CITY BANK PCL.

Mr. Chaiwat Utaiwan
Head Office : 1101 New Petchburi Rd., BKK 10400, THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2253-0200
Fax : (66) 0-2651-7997
website : http://www.scib.co.th/

BANKTHAI PCL.

Mr. Subhak Siwaraksa
Head Office : 44 North Sathorn Rd., Silom, Bangrak 10500
Tel : (66) 0-22638-8000
Fax : (66) 0-2633-9026
website : http://www.bankthai.co.th/

UOB BANK PCL.

Mr. Wong Kim Choong
Head Office : 191 South Sathorn Rd., Yannawa, BKK 10120, THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2343-3000
Fax : (66) 0-2285 - 1537
website : http://www.uob.co.th/

THANACHART BANK PLC.

Mr.Suphadej Poonpipat
Head Office : 900 Tonson Tower, Ploenchit Rd., Lumpini
Pathumwan, BKK 10330
Tel : (66) 0-2217-8184
Fax. : (66) 0-2217-9959
website : http://www.thanachartbank.com/


TISCO BANK PLC.
Mr.Pliu Mangkornkanok
Head Office : 48/2 TISCO Tower 1st Floor, North Sathorn Rd., BKK 10500 THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2633-6000
Fax : (66) 0-2633-6800
website : http://www.tisco.co.th



LAND AND HOUSES RETAIL BANK PLC.

Ms.Sasitorn Phongsatorn
Head Office :1 Q.HOUSE Lumpinee Building, South Sathorn Rd., South Sathorn., BKK 10120 THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2359-0000
Fax : (66) 0-2677-7223
website : http://www.lhbank.co.th


ACL BANK PLC.

Mr.Thongchai Ananthothai
Head Office :11 - 13 Fl.,Emporium Tower 622 Sukhumvit Road, Khlong Ton Khlong Toei, BKK 10110 THAILAND
Tel : (66) 0-2663-9999
Fax : (66) 0-2633-9888
website : http://www.aclbank.com

KIATNAKIN BANK PCL.

Mr. Tawatchai Sudtikitpisan
Head Office : Amarin Tower , 500 Phloenchit Rd. , Lumphini,
Pathumwan, Bkk 10330, THAILAND
Tel : (66)0-2680-3333
Fax : (66) 0-2256-9933
Website : http://www.kiatnakinbank.com/

THAI CREDIT RETAIL BANK PCL.

Mr. Mongkon Leelatum
Head Office : Thai Life Insurance Bldg., Ratchadaphisek Rd., Dindaeng,
Bkk 10400, THAILAND
Tel : (66)0-2697-5454
Fax : (66) 0-2642-3096
Website : http://www.tcrbank.com/

The Thai Bankers’ Association
4th Fl., Lake Rajada Office Complex (Bldg.2), CDF House
195/5,7 Rajadapisek Rd., Klong-Toey, Bangkok 10110
Tel. 66 (0) 2264-0883 – 86 Fax. 66 (0) 2264-0888 e-mail : infodesk@tba.or.th

[aznyron]

you did your home work Git maybe some one can draw up a letter and we can copy & paste & send
It might work but my gut feeling says no

[bumper]

I appreciate that Ron but there are guys on here that write much better then I do. Your gut might be right but at least we have tried instead of just complaining.

[jetdoc]

It very well may be a non issue for many of us. git was refunded the service charge so that must be his banks policy. My C/U has a similar policy and I will know for sure in three or fore days when I bring in the monthly dosh. Here's the plan -- 20 from KTB, 20 from Kosikorn, and go to teller SCB for another 20. This should give me info on various ex rates and service charges. Not scientific but a start.

[bumper]

I'm also in the wait and see mode my card may not be accepted next time. we shall see.

[bumper]

Borrowed from, TV:

In case anyone is interested, if one decides to use an "over-the-counter cash advance" from your Foreign ATM card, the banks here will give you the worst possible exchange rate since it is considered an international credit card transaction. I went to SCB today and inquired about doing this transaction and you can do up to 250k THB. However, even if the money is debited from a checking or savings account, they use the Visa/MC system to do the transaction. 34.14 was the rate I was quoted on doing this transaction.

Anyone tried Kasikorn Bank?

[aznyron]

Git that it not true you get the T,T rate but with the added fees it comes out to be the posted rate
besides I don't take cash I have it deposited in to my SCB account I do a calculation on every debit exchange I do with the bank and that pretty much the rule

[bumper]

Just a thouhgt for a letter, a sweet and sour approach. omone want to clean it up I know my writing.


I know this is important to Thailand so I'm going to speak my mind. On one had that yuo can see that Thailand is really trying with offres such a this. Howvcer at the same time the the Thai bankersd Asocaition has raised ATM fee by a factor of seven on foriegn ATM cards to 150 baht. On the yuor saying come here we really want yuor buisness.

On the other hand your saying come here so you can be overcharged getting the currency you need to enjoy yourself. Who gets hurt by this certainly not the banks, but the very people that are working so hard to promote tourism.

This story about the ATM charges ar all over the foriegn forums and people are very upset about it. It not just the locals who participate in the forums. But 100's of thousands of people all over the world. The very people that yuo are trying to attract.

Now which story do you think they will remember, there going to remember starting from the very moment you arrive you will be charged usery prices.

This action is harming Thailand and all the people in the Tourist industry, why do yu you allow this and say nothing. I just don't understand

"Thai hotels step up discounts and promotion packages

BANGKOK: -- Hotels at all major tourist destinations are advertising deep discounts and adding more packages to fill rooms after the latest political turbulence caused many travellers to skip Thailand.

"Many hotels have already extended their promotions introduced some months after the closing of the two airports in Bangkok late last year," Thai Hotel Association president Prakit Chinamourphong said yesterday.

Occupancy is heading down to 30 per cent this month - half of the 60-per-cent rate seen last April, he said.

Niramon Makornpruttipong, regional manager for administration and member-support services at Best Western International, said the hotel chain was offering 20-40-per-cent discounts at all of its properties in the Kingdom for the rest of the year.

Like other players, Best Western is also throwing in more amenities.

Erawan Group president and CEO Kasama Punyagupta said the impact of the recent riots was like that of the airport blockades last year.

"Hotels have been running 50-60-per-cent full, which is 10-15 percentage points off last year's level," he said. "Over the next four weeks, this most recent political unrest will no doubt put pressure on hotels' occupancy rates in a similar pattern as to what happened after the airport closures."

The recently opened Le Meridien Chiang Mai is reportedly cutting room rates more than 50 per cent in order to draw tourists.

The Le Meridien Khao Lak Beach & Spa Resort is selling a holiday package to locals and expat residents for Bt2,199 net per room per night.

The deal includes daily breakfast for two, a 20-per-cent discount on food, 30-per-cent off of spa treatments and 20-per-cent less for airport transfers. This offer also comes with various stimulating recreational activities.

The Ambassador Hotel Bangkok is offering three nights of accommodation for the cost of two until October, while the Zeavola Resort on Krabi's Koh Phi Phi is offering a complimentary choice of a 60-minute massage for one or two persons per stay until June.

The Tourism Authority of Thailand (TAT) yesterday announced a new campaign called "12 months, 7 Stars, 9 Suns" to boost domestic tourism all year round.

TAT chairman Weerasak Kowsurat said the TAT's board was reviewing if it would change the advertising agency for foreign markets from McCann, as well as the marketing theme. He said some foreign tour operators had stopped selling packages to Thailand.

To allay possible concerns over the recent swine-flu scare in Mexico, 21 TAT offices worldwide have issued a statement on Thailand's precautionary measures, using this opportunity to buff up the Kingdom's tourism image.

Today, Tourism Minister Chumpol Silapa-archa will present a tourism rescue package that includes insurance coverage for foreign tourists and preventive measures against the flu.

Following the Songkran riots, 29 countries and territories issued travel alerts for Thailand. Only three - France, Italy and Hong Kong - have downgraded their warnings.


-- The Nation 2009-04-28"

[bumper]

Boy I'm borrowing from TV a lot today some possible alternatives, unfortunatley I thnk thye are all in Bangkok.

"I have switched to a foreign bank to make my ATM withdrawals - namely Citibank in Bangkok which pays a higher interest rate because you can use a time deposit like a savings account, and charges nothing for use of a foreign card and nothing for using its own cash card for withdrawals anywhere in the world - bingo - so:

NO, I WON'T PAY IT - AND NO, I WON'T LEAVE THAILAND - goodbye Thai banks!

Other foreign banks which may do the same include HSBC, UBS but have no idea if they do or not. "

[parrot]

I used Kasikorn Bank ATM on Phosri Rd to ATM from my stateside credit union today. No fee.

[bumper]

Thanks I will look for that.

[papaguido]

Boy I'm borrowing from TV a lot today some possible alternatives, unfortunatley I thnk thye are all in Bangkok.

"I have switched to a foreign bank to make my ATM withdrawals - namely Citibank in Bangkok which pays a higher interest rate because you can use a time deposit like a savings account, and charges nothing for use of a foreign card and nothing for using its own cash card for withdrawals anywhere in the world - bingo - so:

NO, I WON'T PAY IT - AND NO, I WON'T LEAVE THAILAND - goodbye Thai banks!

Other foreign banks which may do the same include HSBC, UBS but have no idea if they do or not. "

More info from Citibank, looks like they've got several good options to choose from and free ATM withdrawals.

http://www.citibank.co.th/THGCB/APPS/po ... tm&tabNo=6

[aznyron]

Rito I just left that site from what I saw was you need 200.000 baht to open account that almost
6000 USD but I may not have look in the right place could you find out more info thank you

[bumper]

Never forget it's in Bangkok we need an alternative in Udon