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Post by Klaussi » February 16, 2011, 10:35 pm

Hello,

we are rebuilding our sleeping rooms and have to extract and build-in again, also maintained, 2 of our aircon systems. Furthermore another 2 aircon systems have to be maintained. Any recommendations for qualified and not too expansive mechanics ? In the area Udon Thani ?

Klaussi



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Re: Aircon service

Post by FrazeeDK » February 18, 2011, 8:26 pm

can't remember the name.. The company is located on the ring road about 600 meters north of the Big C overpass on the right.. You'll have to do a U-Turn to get to them.. They sell a wide variety of AC units. They installed 3 X split packs at my house over the last 3 years. I've had them back annually for periodic maintenance and they do an excellent professional job. Their installations are neat and they cleanup prior to leaving.. As I recall maintennance (cleaning compressor/air handler and topping off refrigerant) cost 500 Baht for 3 split packs..http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source= ... 6&t=h&z=17 That's the Google link showing the big white building on the right side of the road...

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Re: Aircon service

Post by Klaussi » February 19, 2011, 9:24 am

Thanks a lot, FrazeeDK, for the information. I know, I am bothering you, but do you have a phone number of their office ?
Would be great.

Best regards

Klaussi

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Re: Aircon service

Post by Shado » February 19, 2011, 9:45 am

Another reliable company that we use a lot is Nee Mit Air. They have very reasonable prices and are responsive.

Their phone numbers are:

042341655
042341656

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Post by Klaussi » February 19, 2011, 12:36 pm

Thanks, Shado, for the info; we will give them a call.

Best regards

Klaussi

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Post by KHONDAHM » February 20, 2011, 4:31 am

I can 2nd FrazeeDK's recommendation. I bought a central air unit from them last year. Excellent service and did not get jerked around. Price was exactly as per what I found on the internet. Delivered a day early from Bangkok. Installation of the compressor was first class. I had a family member of the wife's install the fan coil unit and these guys let me know what he had done wrong and fixed it for me.

Only negative is that the installers are not much good at thinking outside the box, but they know what they know very well. Would definitely buy from them again.

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Post by mickydee » February 21, 2011, 12:13 pm

My first and second house I have used the same guy to install and maintain the aircon units plus other electrical work.like putting in consumer units, additional power points and water booster systems etc.
He services local Hotels aircon.
May be busy at the moment as he has 2 apartment blocks to fit out but worth noting his number
Opor :- 0833 506 232

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The tale of two airconditioner stores

Post by parrot » March 7, 2011, 8:29 pm

I'm not plugging one store over another, just want to report my own recent experience:
I went to the Standard Cooling and Service Co. on the ring road near Big C then Nimit Service near between the statue circle and Top World Supermarket. I presented our home dimensions and sought their advice (I live in the countryside, single phase power, insulated ceilings, steel insulated roof, power dips, etc):
Standard suggested an 18k btu inverter for the bedroom, a 22k btu non-inverter for the living room, and a 9k btu inverter for the small bedroom. Reason for the non-inverter in the living room was because 1) she thought we'd be using that primarily during daytime hours when the power was better and 2) because a similar sized inverter (with lots of bells and whistles) came in at 57k baht. All models Mitsubishi.
Total price including installation: 116,800 baht.

Nimit was presented the same information. Their recommendation:
An 18k inverter in both the living room and master bedroom, each at 34,500 baht. And a 6k btu non-inverter for the small bedroom. All models Daikin. The reason for the non-inverter in the small bedroom was that it would be used infrequently (guest room, so not so concerned about power use/savings).
Total price including installation: 84,000 baht.
Warranties for both stores are 5 years on the compressor, one year on parts. Nimit offers a free cleaning (500 baht per unit) anytime (suggested after one or two years).
We decided to go with Nimit....they're installed and operating well and seem to be adequately sized for the room dimensions we gave. Today was 95 outdoors, but pleasantly cool indoors.
We'll see how things turn out in the long run (hot, humid, years of use).
So far, my wife and I are satisfied customers.

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Post by MALC » March 7, 2011, 9:51 pm

do you have nimmet;s tel no please i am due a service on my air cons thanks mal

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Post by KHONDAHM » March 8, 2011, 1:47 am

Another comment based on my experience with several companies:

Not 1 - as in NONE - knew how to perform a proper BTU assessment (i.e. considering insulation, window surface area, number of occupants, house orientation, etc.). They all either just pulled "recommendations" out of their [naughty word for behind] or suggested something that would be overkill - thus protecting themselves, but costing the buyer years of higher than necessary electric bills.

Knowing is half the battle.

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Re: Aircon service

Post by parrot » March 8, 2011, 9:17 am

Nimit, 042-341-655, 042-221-724. Ms. Supawan speaks English.

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Post by kopkei » March 9, 2011, 8:03 am

as KD says , they do not know how to calculate the needed BTU , the thai thinking here is room 4x4M = 16.000 BTU'
i will use a simple formula next time , not so complicated ( can get very complicated as you want it like KD says , and not really necessary )
room 4X4x2,70M = 43,20
43.20 x 50 = 2.160 Watt
2.160 x 200 = 2.360 Watt ( the 200 = 2 person / 100 p/person)
2.360 x 3,4121 = 8052 BTU
so in this case considering all what KD mentioned , i would go for 9.000 BTU here....
i have now 12.000 BTU , with inverter , and know now 9.000 would have been enough
and as of second remark here, i question the need of the inverter ( also the much higher price)
do we need this here ?
so here again ,it does not matter what system you buy , as long as you are happy... :D

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Post by KHONDAHM » March 9, 2011, 8:45 am

If your floor plan is simple and there are doors for every room, a simple calc might be all you need. Heck, that can be found in the brochure for the A/C or maybe on the box. If you have room areas (few walls and no doors) for a more open floor plan, they may very well tell you, as they did me, that you need a single room-sized A/C for each room area. The BTUs having been calculated using the "simple" method of measuring the size of each room area with complete disregard to the fact that there are no doors or walls to effectively act as climate barriers. It is not a stretch to figure out what would happen if you were to go with such a recommendation.

The answer to the BTU question depends on many factors and the correct answer is not always a simple one or an overly complex one. Overkill would surely be effective and it is easy to figure out, but what is saved in effort will be spent in electric bills. Just my 2 satang.

Choosing the right units is just one of those things that you will wish you could just beam a professional over from back in the world to give the needed guidance.

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Post by parrot » March 9, 2011, 8:15 pm

"i question the need of the inverter ( also the much higher price)"

They're supposed to be much more efficient (??30%??) ....and with single phase village power, there's no power dip when the compressor kicks in.


"Overkill would surely be effective and it is easy to figure out, but what is saved in effort will be spent in electric bills."

In a humid climate, my understanding is that underkill is preferred to overkill. Overkill (why is underkill incorrectly spelled, but overkill is okay??) tend to do a poorer job in removing excess humidity......or, that's what I've read.

Given the wide state of building practices in Thailand (tin roof or concrete tile roof, no insulation, no attic ventilation, no overhangs, walls often exposed for long periods of time to the sun, no wall insulation, gaping holes in wooden window frames, etc), the AC shops might want to go for overkill.

I've got 10 or so years of AC usage stats from an inefficient 24,000btu monster. Assuming the hot weather returns (will it?? joke), I'll know soon enough whether the current setup is a better deal.

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Aircon service

Post by parrot » August 3, 2011, 3:44 pm

In March we replaced an old oversized 24000 btu ac in our bedroom. We had used that ac to cool our bedroom at night, and for several years, used it to cool a closed off living room as well during the day. It did an adequate job in cooling, but inadequate in removing moisture from the rooms in the rainy season.
In March this year, we bought three new ACs......one 18k btu inverter for the bedroom, one 18k btu inverter for the living room, and a small 6k (non inverter) for a separate smaller room. The inverters cost substantially more than the non-inverter type.
One shop that we went to suggested a 22k for the bedroom, an 18k for the living room and 9k for the smaller room. We decided to go with the smaller units suggested by another shop (we have insulation in our ceiling and a white steel roof).
Having had the ac's now for several months, I think we made the right decision. The ac's are plenty big enough to handle the rooms (we run the bedroom only at night, then keep the bedroom door closed off during the day. Living room ac runs most of the day until bedtime). The inverters not only cool plenty well, they're like sponges removing moisture from the air. They have a dehumifier-cooling mode that removes even more moisture than just cooling mode.
The best part of the deal is our substantially lower electricity bills.....last year's bills Apr-Jul were averaging 3100/month, while this year's are all under 2000 per month, despite the fact that we're keeping the house comfy cool.
Lessons learned: inverters seem to work much more efficiently that I anticipated. Bigger isn't always better.....although it seems like most shops will try to outsize your units. If you have insulation/shading, you can probably go with smaller size units than recommended by most shops.

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The tale of two airconditioner stores

Post by Asiaphile » August 9, 2011, 9:50 pm

parrot wrote:I'm not plugging one store over another, just want to report my own recent experience: ...
YMMV.
Last week I asked both Standard and Cooling for a quotation to install, clean and gas fill a unit. Standard was B500 cheaper.

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Post by merchant seaman » August 10, 2011, 12:03 pm

Bought a 24,000 BTU unit model Cenrel Air and had the present 9,000 BTU unit moved from living room to the bedroom. Total cost was 35,000 baht. Don't know the name of the shop it was set up by the owner of the housing estate. They provided excellent service. Filled out the warranty card for me and all. Phone number's are 081-8715577 and 042-247942. He's price beat out all the shops that I visited. Was in the Toshiba shop on Prosi Road and they wanted 34,000 baht for a 18,000 BTU unit and another 5,000 baht to move the smaller one.

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Aircon service

Post by parrot » May 28, 2012, 5:17 pm

As a follow-up to my post on this thread in March 2011 (buying 3 new air conditioners):

When I purchased the air conditioners last March, Nimit promised a free one-year service check. I called the store this past week to schedule the cleaning (a few months late). The workers arrived on schedule, power washed the inside and out, checked all the innards and freon (or whatever it is) pressure. Cleaned up and left. Definitely a good quality job.
And as a follow-up on the inverters that we bought: Our electricity bills continue to be substantially less than the bills when we were using our old style air conditioner. The inverters cost more.....but use less electricity. It probably evens out after a few years.

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