Shopping dress standards.

oldfield · Post by **oldfield** » December 19, 2006, 1:47 pm

valentine wrote:Oldfield. Good point. Under different circumstances I might have done. They had a Thai girl with them that firstly should have told then.
Secondly, unless she was deaf ,must have heard the comments from all around, plus she must have understood the security mans conversation on his walkie talkie, she was nearer him than I. Even if she was deaf it was apparent from the reactions of all around what consternation they were causing. If despite all that, they were still unaware, then I'm sure they would have been too thick to understand what I was on about.
Anyway, my Mum told me never to speak to people like that

Good answer

oldfield · Post by **oldfield** » December 19, 2006, 3:53 pm

BKKSTAN wrote: Oldfield,commenting and discussing your feelings about the actions of others is one thing,approaching others,especially if they are complete strangers,is another!
They had a Thai person with them!If they were approachable or interested ,they had a source!
If I see someone I know well enough acting in an ignorant manner,then I would consider ''informing'' them about appropiateness!As a friendly acquaintance,not a ''cop''!
Insensitive people care less about advice anyway!Especially unsolicited advive!

I don't understand your point. Maybe you misunderstood me or I misunderstood you.

Anyway, If I saw someone dressed like that I would tell them that they are offending Thai customs and people and it's not polite to go topless in Thailand except at certain places like the beach.

If you're too chicken to do the right thing Stan then that's your problem

Post by **BKKSTAN** » December 19, 2006, 4:32 pm

There might be a misunderstanding on your part,I don't know

But if I was unclear about my comment!
My point:I don't think it prudent or right to tell complete strangers what they should or should not do!It is not my business,even though it might seem offensive to me! If it is inappropiate or against the law,there are appropiate actions to take and authorized people to handle the situation!
This is a forum,where we share info,opinions,feelings,experiences and some even tell others what is right and wrong.I believe we are invited to do so!

It is much different in person when you are not invited!Being ''chicken'' or not is juvenile thinking in my opinion!Since we are still strangers, if you ''butted in'' to certain personal affairs of mine,there is a good chance that you might wish that you had been ''chicken''

oldfield · Post by **oldfield** » December 19, 2006, 4:56 pm

that's the funniest thing I've heard today - thanks for cheering me up.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » December 19, 2006, 5:31 pm

oldfield wrote: that's the funniest thing I've heard today - thanks for cheering me up.

Exaggerated sense of humor,cluck cluck?

oldfield · Post by **oldfield** » December 19, 2006, 7:19 pm

BKKSTAN wrote:
oldfield wrote: that's the funniest thing I've heard today - thanks for cheering me up.
Exaggerated sense of humor,cluck cluck?

Not a bad comeback for a septic.

Post by **businessman** » December 19, 2006, 10:04 pm

I do not think any of us can take the moral high ground with regard to those wandering around without a shirt.If we followed all the Thai traditions and good manners than maybe a comment is fair.

You can wander into any restaurant in Udon and there will be very smartly dressed farang putting forks in their mouths which,to a Thai is not much better than running around in just a pair of shorts.

valentine · Post by **valentine** » December 19, 2006, 10:16 pm

businessman wrote:I do not think any of us can take the moral high ground with regard to those wandering around without a shirt.If we followed all the Thai traditions and good manners than maybe a comment is fair.

You can wander into any restaurant in Udon and there will be very smartly dressed farang putting forks in their mouths which,to a Thai is not much better than running around in just a pair of shorts.

All these years I've been guilty of a faux pas and not known it. Where are you supposed to put the fork, may I ask?

Post by **businessman** » December 19, 2006, 10:22 pm

Putting a fork in your mouth is looked at much like putting a knife in your mouth would be in the west

valentine · Post by **valentine** » December 19, 2006, 10:32 pm

Talking of etiquette. Don't you just love it when a Thai stirs their whiskey with a finger? One that a minute before was exploring the deepest recesses of their nose.

Post by **PopsIcafe** » December 19, 2006, 11:06 pm

Bussinessman has a point there, if you noticed in Thai resturants you are given a fork and spoon, no knife unless it's actually needed. But I do have to say this, I have seen Thai's eating with a knife and fork, no spoon except at another table. My wife asked why I eat with a fork, she was even afraid I might hurt myself (don't even go there). But I did get the message that it was wrong to eat with a fork, in the eyes of the Thai's. So now I push my food on to the spoon with the fork. The only time I eat uding the fork is when I'm at a farang type resturant or eating my pork steak I get at Nong Prajak.

Pop's

Post by **muscle** » December 19, 2006, 11:18 pm

Pop-pop's Net and Games wrote:Bussinessman has a point there, if you noticed in Thai resturants you are given a fork and spoon, no knife unless it's actually needed. But I do have to say this, I have seen Thai's eating with a knife and fork, no spoon except at another table. My wife asked why I eat with a fork, she was even afraid I might hurt myself (don't even go there). But I did get the message that it was wrong to eat with a fork, in the eyes of the Thai's. So now I push my food on to the spoon with the fork. The only time I eat uding the fork is when I'm at a farang type resturant or eating my pork steak I get at Nong Prajak.

Pop's

I have also gotten that message. Forks are for foreigners. In Lao, it's fingers which, with my public health background takes a bit of getting used to. Here, it's chopsticks first, then soup spoon or regular spoon (Issan style). We do not eat farang food very often. It appears to amuse some of the Thais to watch me eat with chopsticks and decline forks. Also, I have rarely had a piece of meat here big enough to require a knife. I did whip out the Buck once at the Suki place and that raised a few eyebrows.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » December 20, 2006, 9:26 am

I think we are ''stretching it''as far as inappropiate behavior is concerned.I hope their is no law against eating with a fork

It might seem strange,but I don't think it is inappropiate!

If you are going to practice ''conformity'',start picking your nose in public and don't shake hands

Post by **Dakoda** » December 20, 2006, 9:36 am

BKKSTAN wrote: If you are going to practice ''conformity'',start picking your nose in public and don't shake hands

I always pick my nose just before shaking hands, to practice ''conformity''

Which part do I have wrong

valentine · Post by **valentine** » December 20, 2006, 9:45 am

Dakoda wrote:
BKKSTAN wrote: If you are going to practice ''conformity'',start picking your nose in public and don't shake hands
I always pick my nose just before shaking hands, to practice ''conformity''
Which part do I have wrong

You can always tell when a person has class. They pick their nose with the left hand and shake with the right one

Post by **Dakoda** » December 20, 2006, 9:56 am

Seems to me, some people have too much spare time on their hands

Live & let live, or just stay home

Post by **arjay** » December 20, 2006, 9:57 am

I thought it was widely understood here in Thailand, that when eating with a spoon and fork, that it is inappropriate to put the fork into your mouth. But equally if eating steak, when you are given a knife and fork, then understandably it must be acceptable to put the fork into your mouth, (in preference to your knife!)

In certain ethnic groups, (I believe Muslims) I understand you should give and receive food with your right hand, as your left hand is considered unclean, because it is used for cleaning your "nether regions" when visiting the toilet!

I believe Thais consider us impolite when we blow our noses, but having an inhaler dangling from it, is presumably not!!

Post by **panick** » December 20, 2006, 9:59 am

sounds like you've got more on your hands than "Time"

valentine · Post by **valentine** » December 20, 2006, 10:10 am

Good living here, ain't it

Post by **businessman** » December 20, 2006, 1:56 pm

I hope their is no law against eating with a fork

No law against it,but who wants to offend their Thai dining companions?
A Strange comment as you yourself said about going shirtless:

If I understand that it is offensive to most people,then I will abstain

I do believe there is a law against riding a motorcycle without a shirt.