Meat Pies

[papafarang]

Mmmm.....then pasties are pies ? So what is beef wellington...a pie Or a steak wrapped in pastry ? The mind boggles ..

[Drunk Monkey]

I love a good meat pie .....a traditional English meat pie that is and must i have found the best locally IMO .. 5 mins in a proper oven NOT MICROWAVED ..and perfection on a plate ....but keeping my supplier a secret

As for unusual pies from other nations ....the Pizza pie in all its forms from ###### land is also spot on , had Moussaka pie from Greece , Kangaroo pie from Ozz , Beef n Whiskey pie from Scotland , Smoked salmon pie from Norway , tho must admit the Thai Hairy Pie seems to be the most popular pie amongst the middled aged expat male of the species .,,can be expensive tho

[papafarang]

Next One to get your head round is can you call a sausage roll a pie? No gravy, no tin ,but pastry top and bottom

[Shado]

I'm thinkin' that a pie can be whatever you want it to be.

Moon Pie


Eskimo Pie


Pork Pie

[stattointhailand]

Looks more like a Wagon wheel, a choc covered ice lolly and a titfa to me

[socksy]

I love a good meat pie .....a traditional English meat pie that is and must i have found the best locally IMO .. 5 mins in a proper oven NOT MICROWAVED ..and perfection on a plate ....but keeping my supplier a secret

As for unusual pies from other nations ....the Pizza pie in all its forms from ###### land is also spot on , had Moussaka pie from Greece , Kangaroo pie from Ozz , Beef n Whiskey pie from Scotland , Smoked salmon pie from Norway , tho must admit the Thai Hairy Pie seems to be the most popular pie amongst the middled aged expat male of the species .,,can be expensive tho

Jon I tend to find that when I go for a downstairs lunch at the Y bone cafe there is little or no hair on the pies - which is to my personal taste. Nothing worse than discovering something resembling a Roman Centurion's helmet.

[ozzydom]

I think all this shouting about putting the 'best' meat in pies and mince is a load of nonsense. It goes away from the origins of them .Originally butchers used the lesser cuts from the carcass to make them, many of which though less appetising to look at and possibly not so tender to eat, when prepared and cooked in this way, made a cheap meal for their customers, and enabled them to use all of the carcass.Only a fool would want to chop up prime steak meat to use .That also goes for saying only prime waygu or any other specialised breed meat in them .It is simply not necessary and only adds to the finished cost without any increase in taste, thus defeating the object of a cheapish meal.I make my own cottage pies in a batch for freezing once a month, using the Thai/French beef available, buying 2 kilo for about 250 bht kg. This is enough to make 10 family size pies, which adding on the other items means they cost me less than 70bht each .They are delicious and I assure you they wouldn't taste better if I paid twice as much to use these luxury meats .

I would be grateful if you could direct me to the outlet that sells Thai /French meat for 125 baht kg.
dom

[macca46]

Try UT Gourmet Meats the meat is good and I believe well priced.

[papafarang]

I think all this shouting about putting the 'best' meat in pies and mince is a load of nonsense. It goes away from the origins of them .Originally butchers used the lesser cuts from the carcass to make them, many of which though less appetising to look at and possibly not so tender to eat, when prepared and cooked in this way, made a cheap meal for their customers, and enabled them to use all of the carcass.Only a fool would want to chop up prime steak meat to use .That also goes for saying only prime waygu or any other specialised breed meat in them .It is simply not necessary and only adds to the finished cost without any increase in taste, thus defeating the object of a cheapish meal.I make my own cottage pies in a batch for freezing once a month, using the Thai/French beef available, buying 2 kilo for about 250 bht kg. This is enough to make 10 family size pies, which adding on the other items means they cost me less than 70bht each .They are delicious and I assure you they wouldn't taste better if I paid twice as much to use these luxury meats .

I would be grateful if you could direct me to the outlet that sells Thai /French meat for 125 baht kg.
dom

so nonsense meat in a pie is as good high quality meat in a pie ? no I will stick to good quality meat in mine , and I'm sure the customers think so too. offal pies, no thanks, the world has moved on since 1940

[trubrit]

I think all this shouting about putting the 'best' meat in pies and mince is a load of nonsense. It goes away from the origins of them .Originally butchers used the lesser cuts from the carcass to make them, many of which though less appetising to look at and possibly not so tender to eat, when prepared and cooked in this way, made a cheap meal for their customers, and enabled them to use all of the carcass.Only a fool would want to chop up prime steak meat to use .That also goes for saying only prime waygu or any other specialised breed meat in them .It is simply not necessary and only adds to the finished cost without any increase in taste, thus defeating the object of a cheapish meal.I make my own cottage pies in a batch for freezing once a month, using the Thai/French beef available, buying 2 kilo for about 250 bht kg. This is enough to make 10 family size pies, which adding on the other items means they cost me less than 70bht each .They are delicious and I assure you they wouldn't taste better if I paid twice as much to use these luxury meats .

I would be grateful if you could direct me to the outlet that sells Thai /French meat for 125 baht kg.
dom

If you read again you will see I said 250bht a kilo. Both the two outlets I know in town sell lesser cuts at this price .

[papafarang]

I currently pay 380 baht wholesale for top round to make my pies, that's with discount as I use a lot of it, I will enquire what cuts are available for 250 baht or less as this would mean thai French are selling beef at a lower price than makro who charge 270 a kilo for a bucket of beef offal (internal organs and entrails ect) .

[timmy]

trubrit , If you read again you will see I said 250bht a kilo. Both the two outlets I know in town sell lesser cuts at this price . where abouts in the city ARE the 2 outlets ? for thai/french beef ?

[merchant seaman]

I pay 70 baht a piece for my pies and at a conveinent location for me. I can't make them myself any cheaper or make them any better and have yet to find the same in the area.

[Khun Paul]

+One man's meat is another's poison, the pies I buy from those that cook are wonderful and extremely delicious, as MS said I can't make them so I plump for what I like . Those that want pies filled with c*** go for it, me and my stomach have standards which I would never lower for even a few baht.
The whole debate is getting into the realms of a farce, a pie is a pie is a pie, some you like some you don't. Those that make them have customers because the food is good and tastes great. What is inside is really rather irrelevant.
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[merchant seaman]

Other then what's inside the pastry used is just as important. I myself don't care for them to be made with puff pastry. Even if it's just the top.

[papafarang]

Other then what's inside the pastry used is just as important. I myself don't care for them to be made with puff pastry. Even if it's just the top.

true MS some like short crust, some like puff, but what you put in it counts. if it says steak pie you expect steak...the worrying pie is the one that says MEAT pie, could contain anything. after the BSE thing in England a lot more rules came out about what can go in a pie. today I will make chicken leek and potato pie, only chicken breast will be used as chicken feet pie would not go down well with customers

[timmy]

Other then what's inside the pastry used is just as important. I myself don't care for them to be made with puff pastry. Even if it's just the top.

true MS some like short crust, some like puff, but what you put in it counts. if it says steak pie you expect steak...the worrying pie is the one that says MEAT pie, could contain anything. after the BSE thing in England a lot more rules came out about what can go in a pie. today I will make chicken leek and potato pie, only chicken breast will be used as chicken feet pie would not go down well with customers

same you say dean , to each there own , you say chicken breast , i think chicken thighs " deboned " have a much better taste than breast , its just me :-"

[merchant seaman]

myself don't care for chicken pies but would agree with Timmy the breast meat tends to come out too dry especial after being cooked at least 3 times. First when filling made, then baked off in the pie shell, then frozen, then recooked at home.

[kubotatim]

Pies in my opinion, are far better with puff pastry and for chicken ones must be white breast meat, hell I don't ever eat chicken legs or thighs, cost is not overly important to me but quality is, so at the moment Dean wins hands down.

[trubrit]

I currently pay 380 baht wholesale for top round to make my pies, that's with discount as I use a lot of it, I will enquire what cuts are available for 250 baht or less as this would mean thai French are selling beef at a lower price than makro who charge 270 a kilo for a bucket of beef offal (internal organs and entrails ect) .

Both T/F outlets have a chart showing the various cuts from the carcass on their wall, also if you can read Thai a list detailing the price per kilo for each. As for the price of offal I wouldn't know , stopped buying that when I gave up dog breeding . :-"