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Post by Svein66 » June 10, 2013, 8:46 am

Brian Davis wrote:
Svein66 wrote: According to UDFC on FB, they got a new player from Khon Kaen a few days ago. Let`s hope he can make a different...

Rermrat Ngamjaroen, midfielder?, was captain but ....

Twitter / Thai_League: Khon Kaen captain Rermrat ...
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Jun 6, 2012 – Khon Kaen captain Rermrat Ngamjaroen released after problems with coaching staff !!!!!!!

If that's accurate, where's he been for the last year?
Found it!
Rayong United last season and Sisaket FC (Premier League) this season, but Sisaket FC has only played 3 games this season due to the problems with Esan United (about who has the right to play in TPL).

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Post by Brian Davis » June 10, 2013, 5:03 pm

Well done Svein, now also to be known as Sherlock Holmes. :lol:

Seemingly a player who was capable of performing in a higher league, but he's getting on a bit - 35 years, I believe.
I hope Udon got him to train and tested his fitness before signing him.

I wonder if he appeared yesterday, but if yes, to no avail it seems, if the result alone is the argument.

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Post by Svein66 » June 12, 2013, 9:32 am

Phitsanoluk signed UDFC-forward Justin yesterday. I think he has been a great player this season (in the games I`ve seen him play). He was only on the bench at home to Sisaket a couple of weeks back, but the team got better when he got onto the pitch. UDFC need new players, not to let good players leave.

The draw for the quarterfinals in the league cup will be held on June 18. Not sure if I want Buriram, or a Div 1 team we can beat and go to the semifinals. Unless they have changed it the games will be played over 2 legs, so it will be harder to get through to the semifinals. Scheduled dates are 3rd and 31st of July.

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Post by Svein66 » June 12, 2013, 4:16 pm

Next game on Saturday evening...
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Post by Brian Davis » June 13, 2013, 7:03 am

Svein66 wrote:Phitsanoluk signed UDFC-forward Justin yesterday. I think he has been a great player this season (in the games I`ve seen him play). He was only on the bench at home to Sisaket a couple of weeks back, but the team got better when he got onto the pitch. UDFC need new players, not to let good players leave.........
Knowing that the Club is struggling over financing, I have to think that the above move is all about money. He was the player pointed out to me as earning a large salary, well above other players. I don't know if a transfer fee was involved, but he's only moved to another division 2 Club and Udon may just be happy to reduce the wage bill. Goodness, I don't understand how my TW's head operates at times, never mind whoever pulls the strings at Udon FC! :lol:

Justine? Well, those around me seemed to like him. He has a fair amount of skill, could hold the ball up and possesses a powerful shot, scoring half a dozen goals???. I wasn't so sure about his pace, or that he offered much in the air. But we all have different opinions.

Interesting to see if Udon add players to the squad, particularly a striker, before presumably the transfer deadline is reached.

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Post by Svein66 » June 15, 2013, 11:07 am

Svein66 wrote:And a funny story from yesterday. Yasothon played at home to Mukdahan, and were leading 1-0 when the referee gave a penalty to Mukdahan in the 90th minute. Yasothon then left the pitch in protest against the decision, turned off the floodlights and went home. :lol: :lol:
The above was 3 weeks ago. This week Mukdahan was awarded a 2-0 win, and Yasothon fined 50.000 baht and deducted 3 points. Yasothon could have won the game if the penalty was missed, but instead they ended up with minus 3 points from the game due to their action. Hopefully they learn something from this.
And this weekend they meet again, in Mukdahan... :)

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Post by Brian Davis » June 15, 2013, 2:51 pm

Bloody good job too, just wish it was Roi Et!
The Thai do appear to get easily steamed up. How often does a referee change his mind? I certainly cannot recall the last time I witnessed it and, of course, it should be in consultation with his colleagues, not because a team is jumping on his head. It makes a complete farce of the Fair Play idea and shows of respect before the game.
At Udon this season, there's been a sending off when a player pushed over the ref (all and sundry on the pitch, including the police), a coach sent to the stands after a face to face confrontation with a referee's assistant (over a throw in, if I recall), a referee shoved about by numerous players for disallowing a 'goal' (admittedly, I've no idea why the goal was disallowed), words exchanged when a player failed to kick the ball out with someone injured and black players obviously refusing to accept an apologetic wai (totally meaningless and two-faced IMO), when kicked for the umpteenth time.
I do wish we could return to the days when only the referee controlled the game and we could dispense with this charade of niceties.
I'm still trying to find out what is the procedure in Thailand on abandoned games. We've seen, unfortunately, what happens with a floodlight failure. But Phuket, again, was involved in an abandoned game through awful weather. So I read that "it's yet to be decided when and where the remaining minutes (40 or 50 minutes, I think) of the game will be played" . Before coming here, I thought all abandoned games, irrespective of score or minutes gone, had to be replayed but here..........?

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Post by Svein66 » June 15, 2013, 3:41 pm

Brian Davis wrote:I'm still trying to find out what is the procedure in Thailand on abandoned games. We've seen, unfortunately, what happens with a floodlight failure. But Phuket, again, was involved in an abandoned game through awful weather. So I read that "it's yet to be decided when and where the remaining minutes (40 or 50 minutes, I think) of the game will be played" . Before coming here, I thought all abandoned games, irrespective of score or minutes gone, had to be replayed but here..........?
There are some different rules in Thailand than in the rest of the world, for whatever reason. Everywhere else, I think, abandoned games are played again from the start.
In Thailand the away team gets a 2-0 win when there`s a floodlightfailure, as you say we have seen this season.
When a team refuse to finish a game, we`ve just seen what the punishment is. Don`t think this has happened before, but now we know it`s not worth it.
If abandoned due to bad weather, the game will be replayed from the time it was abandoned. A season or two ago Bangkok FC vs Phuket was abandoned at 5-2 eight minutes from time. The teams were ordered to play the last 8 minutes at a later date, but Phuket refused without any punishment. Stupid to order them to travel all the way to Bangkok to play only 8 minutes in a game day already lost.

Other rules "only" in Thailand:
Teams can leave the pitch in protest for up to 15 minutes without being punished. A really stupid rule! After 15 minutes the game is abandoned, and we have now seen what happens.

Players can stand in front of the ball for "a long time" to stop the other team from taking a quick free-kick. Have no idea why they don`t follow the rest of the world with a quick booking.

In the last few league games, I have seen that injured players getting treated on the pitch, do not have to get off before play are resumed. Don`t know if it`s a rulechange, or just poor referees, but it`s good for those who want to waste time, and bad for football in general.

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Post by Brian Davis » June 16, 2013, 7:24 am

"If abandoned due to bad weather, the game will be replayed from the time it was abandoned. "

If that's the ONLY criteria, then at least everyone knows where they stand and it gives recognition to a team which might be leading already. However, as per the Phuket example, dependent on how many minutes have been played and the score at time of abandonment, it seems daft to try and restart some games on a new date. Better, IMO, to have a formula laid down on score and/or minutes played e.g. if the game has lasted 60 minutes or a team is leading by two goals, then the score stands.
Incidentally, I thought Phuket was given the chance of finishing the already lost game when the return leg in Phuket was played. But someone engaged their brain and accepted the score/defeat.

"Teams can leave the pitch in protest for up to 15 minutes without being punished. A really stupid rule! After 15 minutes the game is abandoned, and we have now seen what happens."

These walk-offs happen all too frequently. It's as if the players think it's an entitlement! - have a moan, have a breather, disrupt the flow of the game etc. As I've said previously, a decision is very rarely changed and should only happen if the ref gets advice from his assistants.

"Players can stand in front of the ball for "a long time" to stop the other team from taking a quick free-kick. Have no idea why they don`t follow the rest of the world with a quick booking."

Don't think it's an entitlement, Svein, just something that referees here don't enforce.

I also feel in Thailand that refs usually interpret the ball coming in contact with the arm as a foul, irrespective of intention. 50/50 challenges, accepted in England, often result in a free kick one way or the other here and goalies are favoured in contact situations, even if their special role sees them trying to save in the air or spread on the ground.

"In the last few league games, I have seen that injured players getting treated on the pitch, do not have to get off before play are resumed. Don`t know if it`s a rulechange, or just poor referees, but it`s good for those who want to waste time, and bad for football in general."


Poor referees, I think. Timewasting, unless you're losing, is endemic here and again the referees don't do anything about it.

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Post by Svein66 » June 16, 2013, 8:15 am

Value for money yesterday! We finally got to see UDFC win in the league again by beating Mahasarakham United 2-1, all goals in the 2nd half.
In injury time one of UDFC`s players got sent off after getting his 2nd booking in the game. A minute later all hell broke loose when most of the players started fighting, and it didn`t get any better after one of Mahasarakham`s officials ran from the bench to get involved. I saw a few good punches being made before the referees, police and others managed to calm everyone down. It then took around 8 minutes before the last 15 seconds of the game could be played. I counted 9 vs 9 players when play resumed, so that should mean 3 players got sent off for fighting. Should have been more, but if they use video to punish players in Thailand, there will surely be more players out with suspension next week.

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Post by Svein66 » June 16, 2013, 9:59 am

Svein66 wrote:The draw for the quarterfinals in the league cup will be held on June 18. Not sure if I want Buriram, or a Div 1 team we can beat and go to the semifinals. Unless they have changed it the games will be played over 2 legs, so it will be harder to get through to the semifinals. Scheduled dates are 3rd and 31st of July.
The following clubs are in the draw for the quarter finals on Tuesday:

Premier League: Buriram United (1st), Chonburi (3rd), Army United (6th) and Ratchaburi (13th)

Division 1: Nakhon Ratchasima (5th) and Rayong FC (17th)

Division 2: Udon Thani (5th) and Luk Tapfah (10th)

I hope for Luk Tapfah, as we then can have a realistic hope of getting to the semifinals. They play in the Central/West region and are currently 10th (of 13) in the table, with 14 points from 12 games. They beat Air Force United (top of Div 1) yesterday, to book their place in the last 8.

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Post by Svein66 » June 16, 2013, 10:21 am

Brian Davis wrote:If that's the road to Sam Phrao, I haven't been down there for quite a while and not since the establishment of the Rajabaht University campus somewhere that way. Just wondering if there might be a link with that?
Just found more talks about a new stadium, and cultural centre, this time translated by google to be at Nong Dae (just north of Udon?).

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Post by BobHelm » June 16, 2013, 10:56 am

It would appear that all is chaos at the top of the Football Association in Thailand.
So I guess it is too much to ask for sense at grass root level over rules & regulations... :shock:
Crisis at football body
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Post by Brian Davis » June 16, 2013, 4:52 pm

A very big welcome was extended to UFC fans last night at the CPE Square Gardens.
The matchup was between champion elect Udon [-o< and challenger Mahasarakham, the latter hoping to overtake the former in the rankings. Sponsorship provided by AIS, Beer Chang and girls from Night and Day, who believed it had something to do with merit making.
Udon sported orange, Mahasarakham black, whilst the referee and judges, all from Plush Rooms, Centara Hotel, Udon State, decided upon a rather garish lime green, in lieu of the traditional white shirt with bow tie.
The first half of the contest was a tight affair, both combatants feeling out the other. Some spectators said those normally involved in handling matters were able to catch up on sleep. Udon perhaps had the edge, but were unable to penetrate the Mahasarakham setup, whilst the latter looked dangerous in counter attacks. Come midway, I had the contest as a draw on my scorecard.
Into the second half and Udon was more on the attack and finding space. Udon took full advantage when the referee spotted illegal use of the hand in Mahasarakham’s box!, then scored superbly again with slick movement, cross from the left and clinical punch home. But Udon looked comfortable for only a short time, because the referee spotted illegal hand use again, this time in Mahasarakham’s favour, who took full advantage.
The contest continued with Mahasarakham pushing to square things up on the scorecard, but Udon steadfastly holding their points lead.
Then, in the final minutes, the contest erupted. A series of foul blows happened both inside/outside the ring. All and sundry became involved – managers, coaches, supporters, security staff, police, the lady selling look chin plaa, but unfortunately no well-endowed, scantily clad ‘round number’ girls. It took quite a while to restore order, thankfully before the possibility of abandonment. Both teams were lacking full power in the short time it took to finish the contest, although I was sure the referee chose to bring matters to a close a few minutes early.
So Udon had a much needed win by two rounds to one, others drawn.
One can but wonder why they bother with all the respect and Fair Play preliminaries!
Next week, join us for what promises to be a real humdinger as local rivals Nong Khai and Udon meet. No love lost there, one thinks.

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Post by Brian Davis » June 16, 2013, 5:02 pm

BobHelm wrote:It would appear that all is chaos at the top of the Football Association in Thailand.
So I guess it is too much to ask for sense at grass root level over rules & regulations... :shock:
Crisis at football body
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/sports/ ... 08411.html
Court order forces FAT chief Worawi to cancel ballot for new president; FIFA will have to rule
I don't understand all the politics of Thai football (and unfortunately it appears politics interfere all too much with the running of Clubs we choose to support), but seems it's in as much mess as those running the country.

Certainly, if one reads the Thai League Football website, the farangs there would like to see this Worawi guy kicked into outer space!

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Post by Svein66 » June 17, 2013, 9:42 am

Brian Davis wrote:I don't understand all the politics of Thai football (and unfortunately it appears politics interfere all too much with the running of Clubs we choose to support), but seems it's in as much mess as those running the country.

Certainly, if one reads the Thai League Football website, the farangs there would like to see this Worawi guy kicked into outer space!
There has been protests against Worawi for a few years now, both at international games and at FA-headquarter. He is not a popular man, but he is a powerful man and gets his will most of the time. As the current thai government, he`s trying to change laws/rules so it will be more easy for him to do what he wants to, without interference from others, and o get re-elected. There is little doubt in thai and world football that he is corrupt, it`s just to find a way to prove it.
Also two years ago the presidential election got postponed to a later date because of Worawi trying to make changes.

Politicians should be banned from being involved in the running of a footballclub, as football should be free of politics. Unfortunately there are too many politicians involved in clubs at all levels in Thailand. Most of these are not involved for the sake of football, but to get support politically.

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Post by Brian Davis » June 18, 2013, 4:15 pm

Svein66 wrote:
Svein66 wrote:The draw for the quarterfinals in the league cup will be held on June 18. .....games will be played over 2 legs, so it will be harder to get through to the semifinals. Scheduled dates are 3rd and 31st of July.
It's Buriram! Away first, home second leg. Should be good income for the Club and hopefully they'll give it a good go at turning over the big boys, first team or not.

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Post by pienmash » June 18, 2013, 4:50 pm

A great draw not unlike Scunny drawing Man U ..... i think the 3 rd July is a Wednesday ... i can feel a trip coming on !!

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Post by Svein66 » June 18, 2013, 10:28 pm

Sad to see that Buriram are home in the 1st leg, as they will surely win by at least 3 or 4 goals, which will make the 2nd leg of little interest. Anyway, it`s good for the players and hardcore fans to go to Buriram for a quarterfinal.

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Post by Svein66 » June 18, 2013, 10:38 pm

Next game is on Saturday at 5pm in Nong Khai...
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