City centre redevelopment.

[beer monkey]

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I can just imagine this video being shot as the 'Alley' came crumbling down all around Roy as he was in full flow of his ermmm rendition..... =D>

[Guns482]

my genitalia are not up for discussion, it was merely mentioned as a reply to a previous post that has been dealt with, thankyou.

[Guns482]

Seriouly folks it is not just the recevlopment of the old farang alley that will cause problems with parking it is the whole of the centre, when you look at the parking areas available and the amount of vehicles that fit in theire now, any lessening will cause major probs. I heard that the Soi which contains Irish Closk and Nobis to name but a few, the police are thinking of parking only on one side , changing sides on alternate days, now that will decrease again parking, notwithstanding the opening of the new bars, both there and near to night market ( already overflowing with vehicles) one can see going out and parking a vehicle anywhere near to intended location is going to be dammed difficult. As complex opens at 1100 hrs and closes at 21-2200 hrs, then all available spaces will be taken up long before we venture out.
The ramifications of lack of planning and over commercialisation with no decent infrstructure is coming home to roost, what the hell thay are going to do is anyones guess.
Out of town centre parking like many western countries would be a feasible option, except Thais do not like it, do not understand why and will probably shun it even if implemented.

[RALPHCUSENS]

I Think that Soi Sauce, should be made one way, and parking allowed on either side, thus giving more parking spaces, and not having bottle necks as people try to pass.

[laphanphon]

i'm bias, since my idea, but that huge lot aka udcenter, would make a dandy public parking. keep the road next to it open, fix the other side that ls pot holed running along the train tracks as a way for vendors to tend to nightmarket. then make the road from mall turn to train station, one side, no parking and two way traffic, the other side, well, a free tram running from the huge public parking lot (udcenter), making a loop, past and down the mall and soi sauce, which would be walking only, not traffic, no parking. same with street that splits the night markets. get about 5 trams that hold 50 or more people and just do a loop around all day and night thru parking lot and walking sois. can't be any easier than that. no noise, no pollution, safe parking.

you can't drive down irish/nobi's street now with stopping to let other side pass. except for my clock and nobi run, i avoid the area as best i can, and don't dare go near it after 4:30 pm or weekends. been to night market 3 times in 6 weeks, 2 for meetings, when use to be at least a weekly visit. tho somehow, i get lucky parking when i do go. i'll always do my clock and nobi run, but mostly for late lunch in the future. before picking kid up from school after 4p. i hate driving in udon after 4p or weekends and avoid it as much as possible.

sorry, no work permit, can not be the city planner.

[aznyron]

I went to N.K one time I followed traffic rules went the correct way on a one way street guess what some clown come up the wrong way so what ever you try and do it just will not work in Thailand
sadly i guess they just will not conform to the rules

[polehawk]

That clown could have been me. I was on a 2-way street in Nong Khai, looking for Rayrai's office, and somewhere along the way the narrow street turned into a 1-way street. Cars and tuk tuks were blaring their horns and people were waving and I was thinking how friendly this place had become before I realized what had happened. Luckily for me, no BIBs were around, an economic opportunity they would have slobbered over.

[aznyron]

no polehawk you could not make that mistake it was to obvious /coming from the mekong river or going to mekong river they are all one way streets ask Stan he lives in N.K so it would be hard to miss the signs and it every other one go the same direction

[trubrit]

Thanks for the pics Trubrit - would have loved to see one of Mr. Tongs shown at the moment. An oasis (of what I am not sure ) within a demolition site.
Back to the parking issue that Guns mentioned....
I am amazed that they are actually going to develop all that site into a mall so that the only place for cars is below ground. Man that is going to be one hell of a big building...
Looks like the centre of Udon is going to be mighty quiet from once they start building until they complete....

Bob, going that way tomorow will try and take photo of Tongs oasis for you.
Now re parking: No idea where this rumour came from. Please gentlemen, this is the biggest retail group in SE Asia, it is inconceivable they wouldn't make adequate parking arrangements for their customers, especially when they project that a major part of the market will be visitors from Laos.On the developement plan there is shown to be a multi story car park alongside and behind the temple to the right of the hotel , it is anticipated to accomodate over 1,000 vehicles, including 2 floors exclusively for hotel guests, with direct acess to the hotel through the new planned extension.I would emphasise however, this is a pro-tem plan and has yet to be finalised.The new dept store will have a retail floor area equivalent to the store in Chidlom, Bangkok.Plus over 200 individual retail shops of varying size.It is massive, if built as planned!
Whilst on this subject let me clarify the talk of access from the centre to Soi Pattaya.There is NO provision for this and in my view will never be, as it would defeat the planned objective of seperating the retail area from , what is considered to be : The less attractive elements. Not my description but I do agree with the sentiments.
On Soi Pattaya. The developement taking place has only"temporary construction" status. This means it is subject to review in 3 years time. This doesn't mean it will be pulled down then, just reviewed. Many of the places in town of similar temporary construction have the same type of consent and have been there well over 3 years, including our beloved night market.

[stattointhailand]

Trubrit, do you know if "Nutty Park" has the same status (3 yr review)?

[Guns482]

Noted trubrit however until things are built there will be probelms. it is those that cause concern, not what will happen but what is happening, you are probably only too well aware of the Thai building habits chaos reigns and then it gets worse.

[saint]

yea but its organised chaos, well sort of, maybe !!!!!!!!!!!

[stattointhailand]

yea but its organised chaos, well sort of, maybe !!!!!!!!!!!

which bits organised ........ oh sorry (I'm being stupid again) It's the Somtham break isn't it?

[Aardvark]

The one thing I dont want to watch as the building progresses are the guys (tack) welding without proper masks. You know..."look STRIKE look away, look STRIKE look away" it makes me cringe. Surely a Bht 1000 helmet is better than a life time of Blindness

[trubrit]

[quote="BobHelm"]Thanks for the pics Trubrit - would have loved to see one of Mr. Tongs shown at the moment. An oasis (of what I am not sure ) within a demolition site.
quote] By special request.




The last from top floor of centre.

[trubrit]

The other development near the night market. Not sure if the name is meant to reflect the tenants or their customers.

[trubrit]

Looked at Udon D&N today. If I was a neighbour I would be worried, very worried.
Look at that enormous tower with tannoy speakers mounted on it.

[stattointhailand]

Ring the bell in any of the bars and an announcement will be made for everyone to move to your bar !!

[BobHelm]

ha,ha, Thanks for "Tongs" pic trubrit- maybe should be titled "Last Man Standing", or "I told you not to slam that door"???

[beer monkey]

I this bloke dead...? (come one own up who is it..?), if not someone better warn him the bulldozer is coming.
good photos thanks.