Udon's most expensive bar

Post by **Glyn** » June 20, 2008, 9:01 am

Totally agree with u saint, we should start a thread that discourages people from buying these new bars, that way the only loosers will be the thai property owners. Once there's a load sat empty for a few years, they'll get the message "we don't need anymore bars", then we the customers can get on with making the most of the bars we have and turn them into nice watering holes (atmosphere & pricing).

Pop-Pop you are spot on, my prices have been displayed from the day I openned and I wouldn't do business any other way.

Believe it or not we the customer set the bench mark for pricing drinks, as long as we're prepared to pay it, they have every right to ask what they like. A bottle of spy costs 27bt, at 100bt a bottle that's approx 250% mark up, cheaky bas***ds!

Post by **RALPHCUSENS** » June 20, 2008, 9:05 am

BKKSTAN wrote:Some alcoholics stay away from the bars because they seek to buy at the smallest price possible and they know that they are alkys,but many that can still afford it,drink in bars regularly so they have company of other alkys to help them with denial of a problem!

Stan,

Where do you hold these denial meetings???

Post by **BKKSTAN** » June 20, 2008, 9:14 am

RALPHCUSENS wrote:
BKKSTAN wrote:Some alcoholics stay away from the bars because they seek to buy at the smallest price possible and they know that they are alkys,but many that can still afford it,drink in bars regularly so they have company of other alkys to help them with denial of a problem!
Stan,

Where do you hold these denial meetings???

At the 13 step house!

Post by **stattointhailand** » June 20, 2008, 9:36 am

Is that the place known as the 'stairway to heaven'

Post by **arjay** » June 20, 2008, 9:41 am

I definitely agree that bars should have to show their prices. In fact it's mandatory in the UK that all bars and restaurants must display their prices. Restaurants must even have them outside. Then you can establish if they have what you want and at what price.

In LOS I do so dislike going into a bar and before you have even sat down, being asked "You want some drink?" - with no menu or price list presented, and even if you ask, and they understand your question, you get a cursory "no have". There seems to be an automatic presumption that you are a regular here and know what's on offer. If you were a genuine first time tourist you wouldn't know what beers etc were available.

Also, I like to know the prices, because as mentioned above, GF may like Spy, which can be anything between 50 and 150 baht, or a glass of wine, which can be anything from 60 to 200 baht. So it's only fair to be able to assess that in advance of ordering and consuming it!!

Post by **jetdoc** » June 20, 2008, 9:56 am

"cheap charlie who only sips it at home and only buys it in Laos for half thai price. does remind me of someone." Hum I resemble that remark;o)

Post by **Naam Jai** » June 20, 2008, 1:15 pm

The centre of Udon opposite Robinsons looks a mess now that the Farang bars have gone and the Irish clock ? road name,where the new bars are being developed is another mess. Parking is impossible. I can't understand why the area near the Night market /railway station to Posri road hasn't been developed for the replacement bars. Prices for central property has become prohibitive which answers the question. All bars are going to become more expensive as rents increase for properties. Those bars out of the centre paying rents which have not increased significantly should be providing a cheaper prices for food and beer. One Udon bar needs to be a benchmark for all others. The only one where the bargirls dont bother you is the Irish clock. They have a good range of draught and bottled beers at reasonable prices. Why do I suggest this? Go to Bangkok and see what the price of a draught pint is there in the farang bars around Sukhumvit.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » June 20, 2008, 1:17 pm

stattointhailand wrote:Is that the place known as the 'stairway to heaven'

13 steppers mightcall it that

Post by **monkeyman** » June 20, 2008, 1:19 pm

IMO prices shown at the bar would definately increase regular local custom for any bar owner, if out on the town late on a heavy session sometimes prices don't seem to matter until you (or worse the wife) opens the empty wallet in the morning..

laphanphon · Post by **laphanphon** » June 20, 2008, 1:35 pm

this one is a tought one.................most bars have menus, i usually ask for one before ordering, if beer not listed......................................i know, it's another tough one,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just ask how much, and when put little bill in wood cup on bar, verify.

this really isn't brain surgery.

"cheap charlie who only sips it at home and only buys it in Laos for half thai price. does remind me of someone." Hum I resemble that remark;o)

that makes 2 of us

Post by **arjay** » June 20, 2008, 4:19 pm

laphanon wrote:this one is a tought one.................most bars have menus, i usually ask for one before ordering, if beer not listed......................................i know, it's another tough one,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just ask how much, and when put little bill in wood cup on bar, verify.

this really isn't brain surgery. Cool

LA, your comment "just ask" pre-supposes you know exactly what you want to drink in advance.

Sometimes I like to experiment or try something different. I might have a beer. I might have a Sangsom and coke. I might even try a G&T, a glass of wine, or as an occasional reminder (lest I forget the taste) - an Ameretto, Kahlua or Brandy.

So I like to check out the prices, in case one of the above is particularly competitively priced. I find often they don't have a price list, or don't know where it is, or maybe can't be bothered to look.

It is therefore a bit tedious to have to ask........ How much is xxxxxx? How much is xxxxxxxx? etc - numerous times, particularly if it isn't a Singha beer. The bar girl will invariably enquire... "Alena?", before going off and asking 4 different people, before coming back and telling you. This process then has to be repeated 4 or 5 times, before you can gain a fair picture of what is available and at what price.

Surely, it doesn't require brain surgery for them to have, and present you with a price list/menu!! .....

It's not rocket science.

Post by **rickfarang** » June 20, 2008, 4:27 pm

I think you guys are making this too complicated. They get this much for these drinks BECAUSE THEY CAN. Simple as that.

laphanphon · Post by **laphanphon** » June 20, 2008, 4:40 pm

LA, your comment "just ask" pre-supposes you know exactly what you want to drink in advance.

did you notice, all recommends were for tiger, except on. if tiger is overpriced, then i might do one chang if priced right, then put my walkin shoes on.

tiger fan, not much else for me. experimenting is usually overpriced, plus beer i can pace myself, 1 per hour, the other stuff, and i'll be checking in.

Post by **retep123** » June 20, 2008, 4:47 pm

Price is only part of the fun.
Like so may things in life

Post by **ISSAN_NISSAN** » June 20, 2008, 5:06 pm

Places (bars/shops/cafes/used car dealers/massage parlors) who don't clearly display the prices or have a menu available are clip joints. (Not a barber shop)

If we would avoid these rip off joints until they provided a price list, we would all be happier and less stressed out at the end of the night.

I have also noticed in my scientific studies of the sois (SSS) is most if not all of the rip off places are Thai owned.

Yeah I'm a Cheap Charlie and damn proud of it.

To me a Cheap Charlie = Smart shopper..... In spite of what the bar girls will have you believe.

---carry on.....

Post by **arjay** » June 20, 2008, 6:11 pm

I must admit there's even been a couple of occasions (one a restaurant, the other a bar) when they've rummaged around and dug up a price list/menu, from which I ordered, and then when I got the 'bin', it showed a higher price.

When challenging it, I got "it's an old/out of date price list"!!

What hope have you got!!

I then have to argue, well that's the one you gave me, and that's the one I ordered from, and that's what I"ll be paying, - type of thing!

Agreed they may view things differently. Well we dug that out just to show you what we had available, - it doesn't mean it's at the price in the price list!!!! In fact that may have been borrowed from another establishment!

laphanphon · Post by **laphanphon** » June 20, 2008, 9:36 pm

almost had that happen at sabai sabai on way to night market. i ordered a beer of new menu, ree enquired about, then ordered mixed drink of same menu. i stated that seemed like a decent price for that, and informed that price is wrong, about 40% more. not thanks, cancel that, one beer, not tip, never returned.

old menu, not problem, i have old baht.

Post by **Irish Alan** » June 20, 2008, 9:54 pm

I suppose their reasoning behind it is we do not need a menu to look at trivial things like prices... I mean we are all rich right?

Post by **747man** » June 20, 2008, 10:07 pm

Irish Alan wrote:I suppose their reasoning behind it is we do not need a menu to look at trivial things like prices... I mean we are all rich right?

YOU Dublin Boy's ARE !!! Hello again,My Friend,

Keep taking the pills !!!

Post by **Irish Alan** » June 20, 2008, 10:16 pm

Ever tried telling a Thai you are not really that rich? They just laugh and you might as well tell them the one about the hooker and the koala bear. Cue Oasis: You gotta roll with it.

I'm seeing 8 members of U2 in my avatar... Damn these are strong.

Picture yourself in a boat on a river,
With tangerine trees and marmalade skies
Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly,
A girl with kaleidoscope eyes.

Cellophane flowers of yellow and green,
Towering over your head.
Look for the girl with the sun in her eyes,
And she's gone.