Wife wants to start a business, any ideas?

Post by **vlad** » August 21, 2009, 4:26 pm

Dougness if the wife wants to start a business why not try a hairdresser / beauty shop all girls like to look good have seen a few and been made to pay for the ex g/f to have her hair straightened always busy even in Patong where there are a lot of salons.

Post by **marcusb** » August 21, 2009, 4:45 pm

"".I keep telling her that her most important investment is myself and that,if she doesn't make an effort into starting her visa paperwork,her "investment" will go elsewhere. """"

Just a tad off topic Dougness, but the TGF and I were looking at different ways to stay in the LOS. Teaching, soup stands, small resort etc. Some ideas may have been good, for a modest income. I am 46 and she is 35, were too young to just get by, we need to build some equity.
One day I did a search in the Canada skilled workers immigration site. I looked up Thai cooks as cooks are in high demand and get fast tracked. There were over 30 jobs for Thai cooks across Canada. One restaurant in Calgary was offering the equivalent of 90,000 baht per month. Thats about what a Thai cook at a decent hotel here makes in a year. Well once she saw that she started making travel plans right quick. Our loose plans are to go to Canada in six-eight months, with a marriage visa. Work for 3-5 years, maybe more and come back here and relax. At that point maybe take a job with a modest income.
If your TW can handle the cold (and if your not ready to retire)she really should join you, IMHO, there is just so much more opportunity. I believe 3 years and she can get citizenship and a cdn passport. Lots more doors open.

Post by **dougness** » August 22, 2009, 10:27 am

Yes Vlad a much a better idea to have a beauty salon in Patong than Udon,I really wanted her to relocate to Phuket when we met.I had big dreams of working six months and living in Phuket with sweetie for the cold months in Canada.The problem is always the family.I don't want to go there.My wife always says you want my 70yr mother to work in the rice paddies and my niece in a go go bar,some lady can live on 5 thosand baht.I have never suggested anything like this.I can't get a word in edgewise.Then when I say You should think about me and make a better effort to come to my country or I will give up on you,the wailing starts.Just before that there is a cressendo of anger and the forementioned guilt tripping.I hate it when women cry or at least someone I care about does.This topic probably should have been in the relationship column?I promised the members I wouldn't complain.I already give her between 50 and 60 g/baht a month.Her family needs 40,000 which I can't and won't give.Even,if I had it I wouldn't,too many debts now,even with a good job now.I sometimes pray for divine intervention,

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Post by **trubrit** » August 22, 2009, 10:34 am

Doughness . I am sure you will receive many , much more vociferous reply s than this .But 50/60 k baht a month.Your being taken for a ride mate.Sorry.

Post by **Roy** » August 22, 2009, 10:54 am

I have to agree with TB Dougness. You send her 50/60 k baht per month and she claims her family need another 40,000 baht per month

That's some mighty fine living, they must be very Hi So!!

She is taking the p1ss out of you mate.

Post by **BKKSTAN** » August 22, 2009, 10:56 am

trubrit wrote:Doughness . I am sure you will receive many , much more vociferous reply s than this .But 50/60 k baht a month.Your being taken for a ride mate.Sorry.

Unbelievable,give her 50-60K per month!!!Of course she knows you are a money pit and easily manipulated with her ''acts''.That is how she got you to that place.She is in full control,you are out to lunch ,in my opinion and don't have a clue about Thai income needs!The is my opinion,not meant to insult you,but you are every Thai girls dream!

Post by **BobHelm** » August 22, 2009, 10:58 am

If you do not believe the posters then take a look at the independent facts, from Bangkok Post. Remember that these figures will be average Thailand. Bangkok wages tend to push the average up & Isaan wages tend to be lower than the resulting average..
http://www.bangkokpost.com/economicreviews.html

Post by **Philrjones** » August 22, 2009, 11:06 am

hi there,

Yes I agree with the above posters: 50k-60k baht per month is way too much, but of course it's up to you. However, I'll give you an example of Thai wages and what's expected here.

When I first met my now wife, she was working 2 jobs for a total of about 15 or 16 hours per day and getting 5,000 baht per month for each for a total of 10k baht. Before her, my first g/f here was working as a teacher at Santapol College and getting about 7,800 baht per month (about 3 years ago) and living very nicely with a 2 bedroom apartment to rent, state of the art tv, stereo etc etc. A little goes a long way here. I reckon if you were sending 5k to 10k a month it's probably about right - but bear in mind that's what a girl could expect to earn in a whole month!

As for the family wanting that much - they really are talking bollocks. Once you start down that road, there's no turning back because as soon as you cut back you're cast as a villain and a cheap charlie. You're right - look after number one first.

Hope that helps

Phil

Post by **Zidane** » August 22, 2009, 11:46 am

Quite possibly the lady in question requires the 50-60k per month for the rent of McDonalds when it opens in the UD Centre.....the extra 40k per month will the wages for the parents help in serving behind the counter.
Or it is possible she is a leading actress in the Thai soaps on Channel 3 or Channel 7 ??

Failing that....its not so much being "taken for a ride" more "blasted into orbit !"
Please listen to what the other posters are telling you before its too late and you are financially ruined.

Post by **Fy 1810** » August 22, 2009, 11:59 am

as the last 7 posts have been about a relationship and not the U D centre , i prusume it would be O K for me to give our O P a little advice ? dougness , you are definately being taken for a 24 carrot mug . grow yourself a pair of balls man , and get yourself out of this situation , and never glimpse back .

Post by **bumper** » August 22, 2009, 12:16 pm

dougness wrote:Yes Vlad a much a better idea to have a beauty salon in Patong than Udon,I really wanted her to relocate to Phuket when we met.I had big dreams of working six months and living in Phuket with sweetie for the cold months in Canada.The problem is always the family.I don't want to go there.My wife always says you want my 70yr mother to work in the rice paddies and my niece in a go go bar,some lady can live on 5 thosand baht.I have never suggested anything like this.I can't get a word in edgewise.Then when I say You should think about me and make a better effort to come to my country or I will give up on you,the wailing starts.Just before that there is a cressendo of anger and the forementioned guilt tripping.I hate it when women cry or at least someone I care about does.This topic probably should have been in the relationship column?I promised the members I wouldn't complain.I already give her between 50 and 60 g/baht a month.Her family needs 40,000 which I can't and won't give.Even,if I had it I wouldn't,too many debts now,even with a good job now.I sometimes pray for divine intervention, .

Hmm thought this was about the night market guess not. Next time she asks those questions tell her yes and move on.

Easiest thing to find in Thailand is women the hardest a good one. But, they are out there. Of course each to his own on. You enjoy just keep playing the game. But, your not going to win, your a ATM card not a husband.

This a topic is about WBU. Does seem he has completed his classes just yet.

Good Luck

Post by **Irish Alan** » August 22, 2009, 12:37 pm

I think this deserves it's own thread. May I suggest it be called, "Stitched up like a kipper!"

Post by **bumper** » August 22, 2009, 2:21 pm

Befiore this guys gets upset a lot of us have gotten our PHD's at WBU, including me and it was expensive

Post by **dougness** » August 23, 2009, 9:27 pm

Yes Bob,I was aware of Thai wages a while back,but thanks for the link.It seems like im carrying a disproportionate load for her extended family.Her mothers medical bills might be a factor as well.Iam hoping she comes to her senses and starts her visa paperwork as I cannot give her anymore money.Thanks for all replies.

Post by **vlad** » August 23, 2009, 11:10 pm

As stated Doughness hard to accept but ditch her now as you are just her ATM once you run out she wil find another 1. where did you meet her in Patong. If there were Oscars for turning on the tears a thai will see off all comers its just an act nothing more nothing less. Get rid now.

Post by **dougness** » August 24, 2009, 4:49 am

I met her in Udon.Ironicly I had a short lived relationship,if you could call it that with a Udon woman working at a internet cafe in Patong.It might have gone somewhere,if she hadn't lied about being pregnant.Anyway my wife will try to get the money from her mother,so I no longer care what kind of business she gets.She wants to really make money this time and not just have a hobby business.I think there are too many hairsalons and bars in Udon.I won't be running out of money,as im still under fourty and have a good job/oil industry.If im a sucker I accept full responsibility for my stupity.I have a lot unanswered questions regarding my wifes family problems.If she can make up the shortfall great,but otherwise as others believe ,Iam already giving her too much money.Her budget won't be going up,even if I start making more money.

Post by **beer monkey** » August 24, 2009, 5:11 am

Remember this Thread/post Dougness...

http://www.udonmap.com/udonthaniforum/p ... tml#p67737

2 years ago you mentioned about your wife wanting to start a business up and not wanting to go to Canada....did nothing happen about it then..?...still no business 2 years later, and members said it then and are still saying it now, thats one hell of a large amount of cash each month...X that by 24 months....(since you first mentioned it).
She has a very generous man for a Husband.

Thanks.

Post by **dougness** » August 24, 2009, 5:25 am

I payed to have a beauty salon built,cost about 200,000 to develop.It apparently makes a mighty 10,000baht a month.The rent is 2000baht and I imagine the power bill is maybe 2000.Yes im too generous,but apparently my budget is not enough to cover her family problems.I know one of her relatives owes 800,000 baht and now only makes maybe 15,000 tops.Who really knows whats going on,even,if you live there.Maybe,if you could speak fluent Thai,you might know more?

Post by **beer monkey** » August 24, 2009, 5:32 am

The trouble is you have been too generous from the start...........things will escalate, you are not responsible for her relatives debts etc, they probably see you as the proverbial ATM.........put your foot down i know you say you can afford the cash...but its not just about that, i appreciate its your wife but don't be a soft touch, but as always its up to you.

Thanks.

and by the way i know of a very 'basic' out in the sticks village salon that makes at least that amount in a month...if not more.

Post by **dougness** » August 24, 2009, 5:51 am

Thanks for the info Beer Monkey.So I might conclude that she may be making 20,000baht.There are always different variables to account for,such the amount of competition and how long the business has been established.I put the guns to her about her budget about one and half years ago and I wrote it down in a trip diary.Now she a new house,mortgage,15,000 baht in a mooban.But she should be using some her business cash to pay bills.She arugues that now her niece goes to University and her nephew is in a private school and she needs more.She told me her nieces tuition was 20,000baht a year and room and board was 5000,if you stayed on campus,so its well within what I give her.I can't really fathom how she can't keep to her budget unless she is paying her family members debt payments or her mother has massive private medical bills.She doesn't seem to be gamboler and I know she doesn't have addiction problems.She doesn't want to get into details of her present budget as she claims we will fight about it,no duh.Her mother has heart problems and maybe high blood pressure.I can't imagine heart medication being that exspensive in Thailand.If my wife can find a more generous husband,she can be my guest,but I doubt it unless she wants to marry a 80yr old.